Newbie 384: All over 'cept the finger-pointing!

[Yosarian2]

Yos is usually pretty quiet.

... I am?

[Yosarian2]

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

Um, I posted just two posts before you did, windfish...

He probably meant actual content in your posts.

It's kind of funny that you simulposted this at the same time I was posting my analysis post.

Anyway, my initial post didn't really have any less content then a random vote would. I usually random vote about half the time when I play, based mostly on if I'm in the mood or not.

[pickemgenius]

Yos is usually pretty quiet.

... I am?

Sure.

[Yosarian2]

Yos is usually pretty quiet.

... I am?

Sure.

Hmm. Guess I might have been somewhat quite in the last newbie I was in with you. I woudln't say that's my normal playstyle though. However, as that's the only game you've seen me in, it's a fair observation from your point of view, and therefore one that actually gives me some good vibes about you.

[MeMe]

==

starting over that was one completely screwed-up votecount

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cool I can double-vote

[MeMe]

What are you

talking

about??

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Count

:

truncator

(2):

Windfish, pickemgenius

pickemgenius

(1):

truncator

notehead

(1):

Windfish

Windfish

(1):

Albert B. Rampage

not voting

(3):

notehead, thedocsalive, Yosarian2

Four to lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You edited that fast, didn't cha

[MeMe]

And I

still

got it wrong. Thanks for quoting it for everyone to mock.

Oh-so-Correct Vote Count

:

truncator

(2):

Windfish, pickemgenius

pickemgenius

(1):

truncator

Albert B. Rampage

(1):

notehead

Windfish

(1):

Albert B. Rampage

not voting

(2):

thedocsalive, Yosarian2

Four to lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What are you

talking

about??

I thought you were jeering me after changing the vote count, misrepresenting me for the world to see. SCUM!

On with the game.

[WindFish]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.

I interpreted it as putting some pressure on the person who put pickemgenius at lynch minus one early, though the wording could mean something more or different. I can't speak for him, however.

Yes, that's right. I was not pressuring for balance (like some sort of call to even out the votes) but redistributing the pressure allocation. Balance in the financial sense, not aesthetic sense, if you follow.

Um, I posted just two posts before you did, windfish...

I apologize; you certainly did. I was going down my spreadsheet of vote tally, saw you hadn't voted yet, and somehow missed your post while scanning through the thread. Again, sorry for my unfounded whine.

[truncator]

Lynch minus one early isn't the worst thing in the world, guys. If anyone were to drop the hammer, and pickemgenius showed up innocent, the player who dropped the fourth vote would almost certainly be newbie scum, and a surefire lynch the next day. And there's always the 2/7 chance of him being scum.

Not that I'm condoning putting three votes on people for no reason at all, nor am I saying that it's good play, but I'm just saying that it's not as completely negative as people might think.

There was more to it than that as well. Sorry about the unconventional move. I thought it helped and no one died.

[pickemgenius]

It's cause i'm from Nebraska isn't it.


Go Skers. 8)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Does somebody need to be replaced or this thread is just moving at a chilling pace ?

[thedocsalive]

Does somebody need to be replaced or this thread is just moving at a chilling pace ?

Everyone has posted, so no one needs to be replaced (I think). I'd say this is going slowly right now, but no slower than a lot of the other games on mafiascum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Does somebody need to be replaced or this thread is just moving at a chilling pace ?

Everyone has posted, so no one needs to be replaced (I think). I'd say this is going slowly right now, but no slower than a lot of the other games on mafiascum.

Hell will freeze over the day mafiascum will burst into flames from activity.

[Yosarian2]

There was more to it than that as well. Sorry about the unconventional move. I thought it helped and no one died.

The town is quite lucky no one died. It wouldn't have surprised me at all if someone else had voted without checking the vote-counts and ended the day on page one quite accidently after your move. If you're pro-town, it was an incredibly risky thing to do; or I could see you being scum, hoping someone else would mess up and lynch him.

So, you knew you were putting him at lynch -1 then?

[Yosarian2]

And Albert, I'm still a bit confused. Why is it you voted for WindFish again? Youi keep saying that something he said "tickled you"; could you clarify that?

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, he explained himself. I'm just keeping my vote there until a better case emerges now.

[WindFish]

Yosarian's reasoning has re-affirmed my vote for truncator. Maybe he was just intentionally probing for some responses, but it does not appear to be very responsibly executed.

[thedocsalive]

I really don't think voting for truncator right now is great for a few reasons. For one, it would put him at lynch minus one. Ironic, right? Secondly, I really don't think the third vote is too scummy. I know it's a risky play, but as I said before, worse things have happened. I feel like a lot of newbie games end quickly because of bandwagons like this: a newer player does something questionable in the first few pages, the rest of the thread ultimately deems it unforgiveable, lynches him, he shows up innocent, and the town's in lylo day two. Granted, there aren't any really strong cases, but I don't think there is sufficient evidence to put a third vote on truncator right now.

Yosarian's reasoning has re-affirmed my vote for truncator. Maybe he was just intentionally probing for some responses, but it does not appear to be very responsibly executed.

It's not a matter of responsibility. If you think he's a poor town player, he's still a townie and you shouldn't vote him. Unless, you think his irresponsible execution implies that he's scum, because it's so irresponsible that any town player wouldn't do it. And as I said, I don't think that is the case.

For now, I think I'll

Vote: notehead

as he is the only player to not post anything of content yet.

[pickemgenius]

I really don't think voting for truncator right now is great for a few reasons. For one, it would put him at lynch minus one. Ironic, right? Secondly, I really don't think the third vote is too scummy.

You're right. Third vote doesn't = scum.
It raises an eyebrow though.

I know it's a risky play,

but as I said before, worse things have happened.

I really don't like that wording (see underlined).
Is it just me?

I feel like a lot of newbie games end quickly because of bandwagons like this: a newer player does something questionable in the first few pages, the rest of the thread ultimately deems it unforgiveable, lynches him, he shows up innocent, and the town's in lylo day two.

1. How do we 100% sure he's new, and hasn't played elsewhere, and knew what he was doing?

2. I will agree that some newbie games do end up like that.


Maybe this will springboard some talk?

[Yosarian2]

thedocsali8ve: I do appriciate your caution in not putting truncator at -1 just yet. However, just because he's new, dosn't mean we should just ignore anti-town behavior on his part; how else can we figure out his alignment?

Anyway, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. Truncator, did you know you were putting him at -1 when you voted?

[truncator]

Truncator, did you know you were putting him at -1 when you voted?

Yes. I also knew that someone would change their vote and I hoped it would be before the 4th vote came in. I wanted to see who was quick to change. It may have been risky, but you don't always get the information you need by sitting on your thumb.