Newbie 384: All over 'cept the finger-pointing!

[LlamaHunter]

... What the hell? Albert? Your reasoning baffles me. I thought I spelt it out perfectly. Lynch thedocsalive, win on day 3. You didn't even bother to discuss it or anything. I really can't believe you were swayed by thedocsalive and Yosarian.

I was hoping thedocsalive wouldn't counter-counter-claim doc. Now that would have been spectacular. But I also really didn't expect Albert to play so badly.

Man, I totally had this game figured out and everything.

[pickemgenius]

Man, I totally had this game figured out and everything.

I'm counting this game as a win for me and you, since we knew what was going on for sure.

[MeMe]

Just to make it official....

End-of-Game Count

:

pickemgenius

(3):

Yosarian2, thedocsalive, Albert B. Rampage

Yosarian2

(1):

pickemgenius

not voting

(1):

LlamaHunter

Dr. pickemgenius

is lynched and the

scum

,

thedocsalive & Yosarian

rule the town. Congrats!

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Night choices

:
Cop LlamaHunter investigated Albert B. Rampage
Dr. Pickem protected Yos
Scum killed WindFish

[LlamaHunter]

Oh well. Good game scum, you were certainly very effective at convincing Albert, and though from my and pickem's point of view everything was so obvious, I guess it may not have been for him.

Thank's MeMe for the game and for letting me replace in!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Llama, you knew you weren't lying.

Doc, you knew you weren't lying.

As for me, I don't know who's lying. Count it as a win if you want to, but you forgot one little detail: you have to convince the townie of who's telling the truth.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Doc as in pickem.

[WindFish]

Wow, what an exciting development. Good game, scumteam, but I think Albert's impatient play is what cost the town. Kinda shows just how much cooperation the town needs to stick together, especially after lynching a townie on Day 1.

Near the end of Day 1, when trunc was getting fatalistic, I started to have some doubts again. Sorry for lynching you innocently, truncator.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Eh, I said Yos was scum Day1, nobody listened.

[Yosarian2]

Awesome. Good game, everyone.

That was actually a really good plan, Llama; I figured that if it came to lynching either me or pickem, I'd probably win, but I hadn't even thought of the option of just lynching thedoc and figuring out the rest tommorow. Whew, was I scared when you suggested that; at that point, I HAD to either make Albert doubt you, or try to make you think that me and pickem were scum together, heh.

Anyway, well played, everyone. I mentioned to thedocs before day 1 that we'd probably win unless there was a cop, heh. I was really worried this might be my first loss as scum in a newbie game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

GG, well played Yosarian

[thedocsalive]

I'm not sure how Albert was confirmed innocent without LlamaHunter being considered innocent and cop for sure. Remember, it WAS possible for both pickem and Yos to be scum claiming doc, and I may have considered counterclaiming doc myself against both of them had Albert's views been a little different. As it were, I had to basically agree with him to ensure the pickem lynch.

Yes, Albert made a mistake in his read, and Yos and I were the scum. But it's certainly not something that was incredibly stupid or impossible to understand. Yes, to Llama and pickem, the strategy of lynching me, protect Llama and investigate tomorrow was infallible, but it's not so given that the cop wasn't truly confirmed. Breadcrumbing isn't strong, as it's pretty safe to do even if you're not cop. In fact, scum could almost always breadcrumb both cop and doc in a newbie setup, and just point to either when falsely claiming later as they please. I've never seen a case where someone caught a breadcrumb prior to it being mentioned, let alone where one caught someone falsely breadcrumbing.

And yes, it cannot be counted as a win for yourselves, Llama and pickem. Granted, Yos and I failed to read and/or kill the powerroles (though Yos suggested Llama, and I thought he might be suspicious enough to be the D2 lynch, so I spoke against that >_>), so the town had a pretty strong grip on the LyLo situation. But a win is a win, and a loss is a loss. Well played everyone!

[pickemgenius]

Yes, Albert made a mistake in his read, and Yos and I were the scum. But it's certainly not something that was incredibly stupid or impossible to understand. Yes, to Llama and pickem, the strategy of lynching me, protect Llama and investigate tomorrow was infallible, but it's not so given that the cop wasn't truly confirmed.

Yes, he cut the game short, absolutely no discussion of the plan, even proclaimed

he

was 100% confirmed innocent, which makes no sense unless he believes that Llama is the cop, so the plan was totally awesome/a piece of cake/we should have won easily.

[Yosarian2]

Albert was a confirmed innocent once me and pickem both claimed doc. One of us had to be scum which meant there was only one other scum. If the other scum was Llama, then Albert must have been town. If Llama was town, then Albert must have been town. Either way, Albert was the only true confirmd innocent.

[Mr. Flay]

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