Gistou (Over!)

[Titus]

Wouldn't a fake claim be easier to see though?

He could be lying, but if he isn't, a huge game like this, there's no way he won't be sorted out eventually.

A PR claim like Doctor shouldn't be lynched Day 1. We have subsequent Days to lynch him if there's good reason for it.

I'd be more inclined to listen when it was someone voting him or outright defending him. You've done neither, and now you're pitching utility to keep him alive. And I was scumreading your slot earlier.

You aren't perturbed at all that he's claiming normal?

[MathBlade]

Just got home off V/LA

Reading now

[Wake1]

Wouldn't a fake claim be easier to see though?

He could be lying, but if he isn't, a huge game like this, there's no way he won't be sorted out eventually.

A PR claim like Doctor shouldn't be lynched Day 1. We have subsequent Days to lynch him if there's good reason for it.

I'd be more inclined to listen when it was someone voting him or outright defending him. You've done neither, and now you're pitching utility to keep him alive. And I was scumreading your slot earlier.

You aren't perturbed at all that he's claiming normal?

I care that he's claiming Doctor. We don't hammer a Doctor claim Day 1.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: no lynch

[BBmolla]

im hammering in 2 hours, so if you dont want him lynched you unvote

[Luna Fox]

He's at L-2 tho?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Kuroky

[Cephrir]

P-Edit: Are you sure?

i mean i guess he could have made up the doctor part

[dramonic]

anyway im sure that is either a mod given fakeclaim or an actual claim!

That's quite the risky stance you're taking there.

Still not voting.

[Cephrir]

Wouldn't a fake claim be easier to see though?

He could be lying, but if he isn't, a huge game like this, there's no way he won't be sorted out eventually.

A PR claim like Doctor shouldn't be lynched Day 1. We have subsequent Days to lynch him if there's good reason for it.

yes good idea let's run up 10 different players with this policy and make sure they know we won't lynch them if they claim a PR

[Wake1]

VOTE: Kuroky

If this is an official vote for Kuroi, that's a hammer.

[Wake1]

Wouldn't a fake claim be easier to see though?

He could be lying, but if he isn't, a huge game like this, there's no way he won't be sorted out eventually.

A PR claim like Doctor shouldn't be lynched Day 1. We have subsequent Days to lynch him if there's good reason for it.

yes good idea let's run up 10 different players with this policy and make sure they know we won't lynch them if they claim a PR

I'm not going to argue with you why we don't hammer Day 1 Doctor claims.

[Luna Fox]

LLD never voted him, so he should be at L-1 right now

[MathBlade]

Don't have time to read all this before I go but we have more than 10 days. Vote Titus please while I am away. I hope to come back to a Titus lynch

How come your read on WT has changed? Do you think Titus is more likely scum than Kuroi?

Read hasn't changed on WT. I still think they are scum. However my scumread of Titus greatly increased when they seem to be trying to make their own narrative instead of trying to be straightforward.

They claim to have read the first post and said they believed something because of Mastina.
Then I point out a contradiction in that and then they throw shade on Mastina.
Mastina is the mod and cannot be illogical.
Therefore it is much more likely Titus created that narrative in order to try to push a world beneficial to her.
The only people that push worlds that push factually incorrect worlds and do not admit mistakes are scum.
In a town Titus world they admit they fucked up in reading or attempt to correct my logic. A scum Titus instead attacks me as a person and says I lack common sense.

I think having logical thoughts and following them to progression is pretty fucking common sense.

[Wake1]

KuroiXHF is at L-2.

trivia

There are two rival theories on how the great ridge formed. One suggests that a second mighty river rivaling or even exceeding that of the divitias once flowed from the great lake down to the oceans. This theory would explain why the land is not entirely devoid of life, and why reservoirs of water can still be located in the otherwise-hostile climate.

The second theory posits that the great ridge was formed by a shift in the ground. (On earth, this would be thought of as tectonic shifts.) This event, or possibly events, the theory goes, was a massive, world-changing event that shifted the way the climate of Agnigi works. (This same theory posits that the land pushed upward in the northwest, creating the erimos range.) This theory also supports why life seems to have once been easier in the now-desert lands.

Some even believe the two theories are not mutually exclusive, and that the truth would be somewhere in-between. The world may never know, especially as such scientific pursuits are largely irrelevant in the world of Gistou.

Twenty-sixth Votecount

:

KuroiXHF - 13 (DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience, RAM, Salt Squad, Cephrir, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz, Tim)

Wayward Thinker - 5 (rb, Nosferatu, BBMolla, Klingoncelt, dramonic)

Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (KuroiXHF)
Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Titus - 1 (Mathblade)
Salt Squad - 1 (Stormblade)

Not Voting - 3 (RachMarie, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

KuroiXHF is at L-2.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

KuroiXHF

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount (none)

(=0)

KuroiXHF - 13 (DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience, RAM, Salt Squad, Cephrir, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz, Tim)

(=0)

Wayward Thinker - 5 (rb, Nosferatu, BBMolla, Klingoncelt, dramonic)

(=0)

Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)

(=0)

Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)

(=0)

Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

(=0)

A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (KuroiXHF)

(=0)

Titus - 1 (Mathblade)

(=0)

Salt Squad - 1 (Stormblade)

(=0)

Not Voting - 3 (RachMarie, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

Last votecount was post 3790, page 152.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

• Heartless:
  Wayward Thinker===>Almost50===>copper223===>Wayward Thinker===>KuroiXHF
  
• KuroiXHF:
  copper223===>TheWayItEnds===>Wayward Thinker===>A Song of Ice and Fire
  
• Klingoncelt:
  Expedience===>Wayward Thinker
  
• Titus:
  Cane + Able/Wake88===>KuroiXHF===>copper223===>KuroiXHF===>Klingoncelt===>KuroiXHF
  
• dramonic:
  Wayward Thinker--->A Song of Ice and Fire-->Unvote--->Wayward Thinker
  
• Salt Squad:
  Expedience===>Wayward Thinker===>Stormblade===>KuroiXHF===>Wayward Thinker===>KuroiXHF
  
• Almost50:
  Heartless
  
• Nosferatu:
  Titus===>Expedience===>Wayward Thinker
  
• Mathblade:
  Expedience===>Wayward Thinker===>Expedience==>Unvote===>Wayward Thinker
  
• Wayward Thinker:
  rb===>KuroiXHF===>Klingoncelt
  
• Stormblade:
  Expedience===>RAM===>Salt Squad
  
• davesaz:
  Expedience==>Unvote===>Wayward Thinker===>KuroiXHF
  
• copper223:
  Heartless===>KuroiXHF===>Heartless
  
• Cane + Able/Wake88:
  Titus==>Unvote
  
• Tim:
  Wayward Thinker===>>>KuroiXHF
  
• No Retreat:
  Expedience--->davesaz--->Heartless--->KuroiXHF-->Unvote--->KuroiXHF--->Klingoncelt--->KuroiXHF
  
• A Song of Ice and Fire:
  Stormblade==>Unvote===>KuroiXHF
  
• RAM:
  copper223===>Wayward Thinker===>Klingoncelt===>KuroiXHF
  
• Lady Lambdadelta:
  Luna Fox
  
• rb:
  Wayward Thinker===>RAM==>Unvote===>rb
  
• Cephrir:
  Nosferatu===>Expedience===>Almost50===>KuroiXHF===>Wayward Thinker===>KuroiXHF===>Wayward Thinker===>KuroiXHF
  
• Luna Fox:
  Expedience-->Unvote--->Almost50--->Stormblade-->Unvote--->KuroiXHF--->RAM--->KuroiXHF
  
• Expedience:
  rb===>Titus===>rb===>Luna Fox===>KuroiXHF==>Unvote===>RAM===>Klingoncelt===>RAM===>Klingoncelt===>KuroiXHF
  
• BBMolla:
  rb===>>Titus===>>Almost50===>>KuroiXHF===>>Wayward Thinker
  
• TheWayItEnds:
  Wayward Thinker-->Unvote
  
• DrippingGoofball:
  Franky===>KuroiXHF
  
• Toogeloo:
  KuroiXHF-->Toogeloo--->KuroiXHF
  
• Franky/RachMarie:

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:09p,

Expedience

Votes

rb

in post 576.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:10p,

Stormblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 578.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:14p,

copper223

Votes

Heartless

in post 583.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,

KuroiXHF

Votes

copper223

in post 586.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,

Cephrir

Votes

Nosferatu

in post 588.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:21p,

Cephrir

Votes

Expedience

in post 591.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:26p,

Nosferatu

Votes

Titus

in post 598.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:28p,

Nosferatu

Votes

Expedience

in post 601.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:31p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Expedience

in post 606.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:35p,

Titus

Votes

Cane + Able/Wake88

in post 615.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:42p,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

rb

in post 629.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:44p,

dramonc

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 639.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:47p,

Luna Fox

votes

Expedience

in post 649.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 662.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Expedience

in post 663.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,

Mathblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 692.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,

BBMolla

Votes

rb

in post 693.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:47p,

No Retreat

votes

Expedience

in post 724.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:02p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Stormblade

in post 760.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:09p,

Expedience

Votes

Titus

in post 780.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:14p,

Expedience

Votes

rb

in post 793.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:59p,

No Retreat

votes

davesaz

in post 872.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:12p,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 885.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

rb

)

, and Votes

Titus

in post 896.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,

Heartless

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 910.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:00a,

Expedience

Votes

Luna Fox

in post 932.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:59a,

TheWayItEnds

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1111.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 09:51a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 1140.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:39a,

KuroiXHF

Votes

TheWayItEnds

in post 1161.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:42a,

davesaz

Votes

Expedience

in post 1164.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 01:52p,

Heartless

Votes

Almost50

in post 1220.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:09p,

Cephrir

Votes

Almost50

in post 1234.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:31p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

Titus

)

, and Votes

Almost50

in post 1246.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:39p,

Lady Lambdadelta

votes

Luna Fox

in post 1257.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 04:29p,

Luna Fox

votes

Almost50

in post 1325.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 05:06p,

Almost50

Votes

Heartless

in post 1338.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:36p,

Tim

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1420.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:42p,

No Retreat

votes

Heartless

in post 1430.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:51p,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1434.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:52p,

Titus

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1435.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:40p,

KuroiXHF

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1510.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:06p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Stormblade

in post 1595.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:37p,

Cane + Able/Wake88

Votes

Titus

in post 1621.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:48p,

Luna Fox

votes

Stormblade

in post 1632.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:05a,

copper223

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1699.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:18a,

Mathblade

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1711.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:32a,

Expedience

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1728.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:09a,

Expedience

Unvotes

KuroiXHF

in post 1793.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:19a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Stormblade

)

in post 1801.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:06a,

Luna Fox

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1896.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:48a,

No Retreat

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1917.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:00a,

Cephrir

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1919.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:04p,

Cane + Able/Wake88

Unvotes

(

Titus

)

in post 1943.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:51p,

Salt Squad

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1958.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 02:58p,

DrippingGoofball

Votes

Franky

in post 2004.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:46p,

Mathblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 2058.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:33p,

Toogeloo

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2088.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:42p,

Expedience

Votes

RAM

in post 2095.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 08:48p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

Almost50

)

, and Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2160.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:44p,

No Retreat

unvotes

(

KuroiXHF

)

in post 2182.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:15p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Unvotes

(

Stormblade

)

in post 2204.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:57p,

davesaz

Unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 2226.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 04:50a,

DrippingGoofball

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2285.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:26a,

RAM

Votes

copper223

in post 2291.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:06a,

Heartless

Votes

copper223

in post 2359.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:33a,

copper223

Votes

Heartless

in post 2380.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:56a,

rb

Votes

RAM

in post 2400.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:08a,

Luna Fox

votes

RAM

in post 2411.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:16a,

Luna Fox

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2423.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:25a,

Titus

Votes

copper223

in post 2433.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:44a,

rb

Unvotes

(

RAM

)

in post 2446.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:13a,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2466.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:21a,

Titus

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2478.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 10:43a,

Mathblade

Unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 2549.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 11:33a,

TheWayItEnds

unvotes

(

Wayward Thinker

)

in post 2555.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:10p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2599.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:47p,

davesaz

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2611.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:50p,

No Retreat

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2701.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:35p,

Heartless

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2726.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:50p,

Mathblade

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2730.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:40a,

Expedience

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 2804.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:42a,

No Retreat

votes

Klingoncelt

in post 2805.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 03:54a,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 2817.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 04:30a,

RAM

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2832.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 04:43a,

Nosferatu

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2841.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 05:48a,

Cephrir

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2870.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:24a,

RAM

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 2883.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:26a,

Titus

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 2885.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:58a,

Expedience

Votes

RAM

in post 2896.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 11:43a,

Titus

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2980.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 12:54p,

KuroiXHF

Votes

A Song of Ice and Fire

in post 3044.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 01:30p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3065.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:16p,

Cephrir

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3083.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:19p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

KuroiXHF

)

, and Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3081.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 07:32p,

Toogeloo

unvotes

(

KuroiXHF

)

in post 3317.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 08:42p,

Expedience

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 3332.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 09:28p,

Cephrir

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3358.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 10:15p,

No Retreat

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3371.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 10:28p,

Expedience

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3376.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 00:33a,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3405.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 06:05a,

RAM

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3425.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 08:45a,

Salt Squad

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3467.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 09:01a,

Cephrir

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3469.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 09:33a,

Heartless

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3495.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 11:54a,

Toogeloo

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3610.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 07:57p,

Tim

Unvotes

Wayward Thinker

, and Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 3640.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 10:12p,

dramonic

votes

A Song of Ice and Fire

in post 3673.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 10:34p,

dramonic

unvotes

(

A Song of Ice and Fire

)

in post 3687.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 10:42p,

dramonic

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3694.
On Sun, Jul 07/17/16 @ 12:09p,

Stormblade

Votes

RAM

in post 3774.
On Sun, Jul 07/17/16 @ 12:15p,

Stormblade

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 3776.

Actually, he's at L1. I didn't notice you first unvoted him Luna.

[dramonic]

Mastina is the mod and cannot be illogical.

[citation needed]
:p

[Salt Squad]

Scum would totally just claim VT for us when they get to l-1 on day 1

[RAM]

LLD never voted him, so he should be at L-1 right now

Luna is correct. The problem I have is that his claim is basically the optimal claim to make as scum to keep town from lynching you on D1, in a game this size at least. It's reasonably safe to assume multiple protectives and investigatives(well, multiple investigatives are guaranteed, basically), so nobody is going to counterclaim you, and you can easily coast on that claim for a good while.

-Cerb

[No Retreat]

vote:Kuroi

[MathBlade]

@ASOIAF

Is very likely town

( Ice is scum hunting like mad and following up on everything she asks plus ending the conversation with a read, she often also drops why she asked that question, i.e. she had an opinion to start out with and checked to see if the player she is interacting with will match her expectation), this is multi-ball so I can't town read her for the rest of the game, here are some questions for you:

- What is your read (if you have one) on Heartless, Nosferatu, Toog. ?

- What didn't you like about Molla in your first post?

- Do you remember why you stopped your conversation with Dram and didn't give a read? Many pages later you seem to have a scum lean, lately you have moved him to null, can you confirm?

From what I've seen about FB this is also more likely to be his town game.

This is sketchy. Why can't copper townread Song all game? If Song is town then they are town and deserve a townread all game. You absolutely should ask everyone questions.

@Copper why did you say you couldn't townread Song all game yet call them very likely town?

[Wake1]

Fakehammer.^

[Wake1]

LLD never voted him, so he should be at L-1 right now

Luna is correct. The problem I have is that his claim is basically the optimal claim to make as scum to keep town from lynching you on D1, in a game this size at least. It's reasonably safe to assume multiple protectives and investigatives(well, multiple investigatives are guaranteed, basically), so nobody is going to counterclaim you, and you can easily coast on that claim for a good while.

-Cerb

Is it really optimal?

If he's Scum people are gonna wonder why he's surviving through a presumably multi-ball game.

[KuroiXHF]

FUCK - NOW MY SCUM PLANS ARE RUI-

Oh, wait. You said

fake

hammer?

[RAM]

My first thought was okay, how about we just test his race copping at least, and have him go after someone and get confirmation, but....first of all, that would expose more information to scum for no reason, and second, given the recruit mechanic, I assume all factions capable of recruiting have a race cop, so if he is scum, he might very well be a race cop (or a doctor, actually, cause multi- ball), and if not he should be able to just have his teammate perform the cop for him while he reports the results.

-Cerb

[RAM]

Wake, it's ABSOLUTELY optimal for not getting lynched D1. It isn't optimal for late game survival, but I don't really know what claim would be both.

-Cerb