One way mason

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One way mason

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:01 am

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After some recent talk about the uses/non-uses of confirmed/non-confirmed masons, I was thinking about this role:

You are a
One way mason
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You know player X is innocent. Player X, however, has no information at all about you on his/her PM.

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Player X is a pro-town player randomly chosen.


I see it as a small information role. This role is completely non-confirmable (scum know who are the innocents), but it could change the strategy of the player a little, who can try to keep his "mason" alive.

What do you say? Good for a mini?
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:04 am

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Yeah, good for a mini.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:07 am

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I've used it before, and I'd use it again.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:11 am

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Yep, definitely a good role.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:02 am

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It's like a one-shot cop which had its target picked randomly in the pre-game. So, it can't possibly be overpowered and seems like a nice boost to an otherwise vanilla townie role.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:37 am

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I've considered doing that as a mild balance tweak.

Consider:

Broken Mountain 3 Goons
9 Townies

Day Start


How many townies should be one way masons in order for the setup to be balanced?
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:07 pm

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Is 3 goons, 7 townies, 2 real masons broken? If not, then probably 3 as the mafia can fake claim one-way mason legitimately and screw with ppl.

Edit: Second thought, 3 is a lot as the masons themselves would be confirmed more or less. 2 seems better, but then again IDK. I really want to say 1.5.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:04 pm

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armlx wrote:Is 3 goons, 7 townies, 2 real masons broken? If not, then probably 3 as the mafia can fake claim one-way mason legitimately and screw with ppl.

Edit: Second thought, 3 is a lot as the masons themselves would be confirmed more or less. 2 seems better, but then again IDK. I really want to say 1.5.
Given that 3 goon, 3 true masons, 5 townies seems to be balanced (based off of multiple plays of Friends and Enemies type set ups), 3 goons, 3 one way masons, and 5 townies has to be close to balanced.

I wonder if a hypomason plan would be a good idea here.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:08 pm

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"Hypomason"?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:45 pm

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Trojan Horse wrote:"Hypomason"?
Start of day 1, everyone says "if I am the one-way mason, my innocent is X". That way if mason dies, town gets confirmed innocent anyway.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:08 pm

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I really don't like these set ups. They seem so easily broken.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:23 pm

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Yosarian2 wrote:
Trojan Horse wrote:"Hypomason"?
Start of day 1, everyone says "if I am the one-way mason, my innocent is X". That way if mason dies, town gets confirmed innocent anyway.
which works, unlike hypocop, because once the information is out there the unimason has shot his wad and is just a normal townie.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:25 pm

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Yeah, pure hypocop is a bad stratagy. It works well for certain other roles though.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:05 pm

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I like the 1-Way Mason. I've used it a bit in IRL, but I called it the stalker.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:13 pm

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I like the idea but not the name
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:47 am

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Want a better name and some flavour?
Role PM wrote:You are a
Peeping Tom
. You have a strange fascination for Kelly Chen, and each night you look through her open curtains to watch her sleep. You gaze upon her innocent beauty, and know for certain that she could do no wrong, and each day you long for night to fall so you can gaze upon her again.

You are town. You win when all players who are not town are dead.
Nocmen wrote:I like the 1-Way Mason. I've used it a bit in IRL, but I called it the stalker.
I called it the stalker last time I used it too - except the player thought they were a Lover (not a conventional Lover, obviously).
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:45 am

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Lol. That was actually the flavor I had in mind (minus Kelly Chen) when I first thought of the role.
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