Newbie 2126: Art [Game Over]

[Aisa]

Newbie 2126: Art

Moderator:

Aisa

| Backup moderator:

RH

Game status:

Post-game

Playerlist

1. DragonEater70 (SE)
   Wayward Son (SE) *
   TheHoldSteady
   
   
2. camelCasedSnivy *
   areebot *
   
   
3. Political Clout *
   
4. SmileyDude1
   overseer *
   
   
5. Alisae (SE)
   Radical Polaroid *
   
   
6. skitter30 (SE) *
   
7. Eiralox (SE)
   Arko (SE) **
   
   
8. Merlyn (SE)
   
9. Alianna (SE) *

Asterisk denotes a prod.

Alive:

Spoiler: alive

• skitter30,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived.
  
• Eiralox,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived.
  
• Alianna,
  Vanilla Townie
  , survived.

Dead:

Spoiler: dead

Political Clout,

Vanilla Townie

, was eliminated Day 1.
SmileyDude1,

Mafia Rolecop

, was eliminated Day 2.
Alisae,

Town Jailkeeper

, died Night 2.
camelCasedSnivy,

Vanilla Townie

, was eliminated Day 3.
Merlyn,

Town Friendly Neighbor

, died Night 3.
DragonEater70,

Mafia Goon

, was eliminated Day 5.

Events:

Spoiler: events

Day 1. camelCasedSnivy replaces areebot. Eiralox replaces Arko. SmileyDude1 replaces overseer. Night 1.
Day 2. Wayward Son replaces TheHoldSteady. Alisae replaces Radical Polaroid. Night 2.
Day 3. Night 3.
Day 4. Night 4.
Day 5.
Game end.

Quick post-game links:

Spoiler: Links

Public thread
Mod PT
Mafia PT
Dead/Spectator PT

[Aisa]

Rules

Site rules:

0. Obey all sitewide rules. It is your responsibility to familiarise yourself with them, though I appreciate there are a lot of them. Summary of some of the most important ones:
- Don't talk about or imply anything about other ongoing games. Applies even if you are dead in the game or if you never were in the game in the first place.
- Don't announce or imply that you will replace out, don't tell other players to replace out.
- Don't use out-of-game influence. For example, don't threaten that someone will no longer be your friend if they don't help you in the game.
- No cryptography or other shenanigans that are not in the spirit of the game.

Have fun and let others have fun:

1. Remember this is a game! Strive to contribute to an experience that is enjoyable for all.
2. If you are not enjoying the game or feel that having to play is making your life worse, this is ok! Please consider replacing out. If I feel you are damaging game integrity, you may be warned to stop or replace out.
3. Harmful behaviour will not be tolerated. You're expected to err on the side of being courteous to other players. Non-exhaustive examples of behaviour that will not be allowed:
- flaming, goading other players
- insulting other players
- use of slurs or derogatory language
- excessive appeals to emotion
- spamming (beyond the normal limits of a mafia game)
- not complying with reasonable requests to tone down your behaviour
I will be somewhat more lenient if you are clearly attacking the play rather than the player.

Out-of-game influence:

4. Play to your win condition.
5. Private communications:
- Do not communicate about this game outside the public game thread and any associated PTs.
- Do not quote, copy-paste, or link to any private communication into the public thread or into inappropriate PTs. Private communication = anything in a PT, your role PM, any correspondence with a moderator. Do not claim to have a Notes PT. There are a couple exceptions, but please ask if you are not sure.
6. Do not discuss replacing out, conceding, reporting a player, or blacklisting a player before the game is over. If you have any concerns, please PM me, the backup/co-mod, or a listmod as appropriate.

Deadlines:

7. Day 1 will last 10 days. Days 2 and onward will last 7 days.
8. Nights will last 48 hours. Fast Nights are always an option provided all living players PM me saying they would like one.
9. During Days, players must make a game-advancing post once every 36 hours or receive a prod. Players have 24 hours after a prod to make a game-advancing post. When due for their fourth prod, players will be automatically replaced.
10. Players who are due for a prod at the end of a Day will be prodded as normal and should respond to the prod by PM within 24 hours.
11. Players on V/LA will be prodded every 60 hours (2.5 days) and have 24 hours to respond to a prod.

Votes, eliminations, Night Actions:

12. Vote by using VOTE: Aisa or

Vote:Aisa

. Reset to voting no-one by using UNVOTE: or

Unvote:Aisa

. Vote tags are preferred.
13. Votes in spoiler tags or otherwise obfuscated will not be counted.
14. When >50% of alive players are voting the same player, that player is eliminated and the Day will end early. No takes-backsies: changes of votes after an elimination is achieved have no effect.
15. If an elimination is not achieved by the deadline, there will be no elimination.
16. Players may use VOTE: No Elimination to end the Day early with no elimination. If 50% of players vote for no-elimination, the Day will end early.
17. Any Night Actions you have should be submitted to me via PM or in a PT where I have indicated that this is acceptable. You can always change Actions before the Night deadline. Night Actions submitted after the deadline will not be accepted, even if the game thread has not been unlocked yet.

Final clauses:

18. No ruleset can be comprehensive. I reserve the right to modify the ruleset (you will be notified) and take action on behaviour not covered by this ruleset on a case-by-case basis.
19. Pretending to break a rule will be treated the same as actually breaking a rule.

More information on moderation:

- Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions on the game or on my moderation. I’m always up for a chat.
- If you are asking me a question in this thread, please make sure it is bolded or otherwise clearly addressed to me to ensure a response. As this is a newbie game, I may sometimes be a little less strict about this.
- RH is the backup mod for this game. T-Bone is the listmod in charge of this game for the rest of June. PenguinPower is the listmod of in charge of this game thereafter. Please feel free to contact any of them about any concerns you have.

[Aisa]

Setup Information

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[Aisa]

Introduction and tips

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[Aisa]

All role PMs have been sent out.

Check your inbox and thanks for waiting, everyone! You have 48 hours from this post to confirm your Role PM.

The game will start when 7/9 slots have confirmed. So far, 5/9 slots have confirmed.

[Aisa]

Day 1

Day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2023-06-28 19:50:00). With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

I have received 7/9 confirmations. If you have not yet confirmed your role PM, you have another (expired on 2023-06-22 22:30:00) to do so.

[Aisa]

1.00

Votecount 1.00

Not Voting (9):

TheHoldSteady, areebot, Political Clout, Overseer, Radical Polaroid, skitter30, Arko, Merlyn, Alianna

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-01 19:50:00).

mod notes

Please do not hesitate to contact me by private message if you have any questions.

[Alianna]

aAAAAAAAAaaaAaaAAaaAaaAaAAaaaaaaAAaaaaAAaaAaaaAaaAAaAaAAaAAaaaAaaAaaaaaAAaaAa!!!

[skitter30]

Heya all!!!
VOTE: areebot

@aisa i am regularly vla on fridays + saturdays

[Aisa]

@aisa i am regularly vla on fridays + saturdays

Noted.

[overseer]

Hey guys

VOTE: Alianna

[Alianna]

Hey guys

VOTE: Alianna

Hi!

VOTE: overseer

[Merlyn]

Looking forward to the game, all!

VOTE: political clout, never trust a politician

[Arko]

I exist, but the internet didn't for an entire day so I missed my role PM... Anyways I exist now.

VOTE: Radical

I feel like this Polaroid might be plotting something quite radical. A radical revolution, you could say.

[Radical Polaroid]

Hello

[TheHoldSteady]

Hey

[Alianna]

@TheHoldSteady and areebot - please consider getting an avatar/pfp. It makes it easier to differentiate your posts.

[skitter30]

VOTE: alianna

[Alianna]

VOTE: alianna

I feel like I’m supposed to ask about this vote.

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: alianna

I feel like I’m supposed to ask about this vote.

Why

[Alianna]

VOTE: alianna

I feel like I’m supposed to ask about this vote.

Why

The timing of it. Voting for me right after I posted. That gives me the feeling that skitter had a reason to vote specifically me, as opposed to it being purely random. I can only guess the lack of explanation was meant to provoke questions and discussion.
Or maybe it wasn’t and I’m just pulling theories out of thin air, but that’s kind of what we’re supposed to do in the early game anyway.
I really don’t see anything wrong with me asking people to get avatars though.

[overseer]

Alianna you're the only one reacting to votes. I just assumed your vote was RVS.

My vote made you vote right? So does your vote actually count as random? Technically not but again I'm gonna assume it is and not ask about it.

Your reaction to skitter's vote was needed though. I think it'll help make things less dead.

[Alianna]

I was kind of hoping someone would comment on the OMGUS nature of my vote lol.
I realize the game is a bit dead and we’re still in RVS. That’s why I said I felt like I was supposed to react.

[skitter30]

Yeah the entire purpose of the vote was to evoke discussion

Which ig it kinda did, not as much as i would have liked tho

I don't particularly sr alianna (actually kinda think her last two posts are townie)

[TheHoldSteady]

Yeah the entire purpose of the vote was to evoke discussion

Which ig it kinda did, not as much as i would have liked tho

I don't particularly sr alianna (actually kinda think her last two posts are townie)

Why do you think her last two posts were townie?