Shell Game (Day 3)

[Hermit Crab]

Also I was told that the other head was a spam poster as either alignment so then not ever showing up is fucking weird

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I’m corroborating what Cabd says there. If I think he’s scum I do not shut the fuck up about it

[Lukewarm]

What is you reasoning behind cabd!scum?

not really interested in pursuing this atm, would be unproductive. ask me if i feel the same on like d3

I mean, I am contemplating handing my vote to them for this day phase, because I don't feel like trying to lead, they seem townie to me, and if they are town I would trust their reads over literally anyone else in this playerlist.

And from the state of things, that would likely mean voting you.

So, it might behoove us for you to sell me on why that might not be a good plan if you are truly suspicious of them.

if they want us limmed then it's going to happen regardless of what i say

I mean, you are currently talking to one of the players who might actually have a shot at wresting thread control if he was motivated enough, certainly not to kill a morph town read, but to force a compromise onto one of their other scum reads.

But if you are ready to just roll over and die, I guess that works too.

[morph the cat]

I mean if you're town and I'm scum it's called playing to your win condition.

[morph the cat]

You're once again more worried about the consequences and fallout of pushing me than you are actually wanting to protect the town from a scary deepwolf.

[Firebagel]

don't think i said anything resembling the word null

What does calling half the hydra town and half scum mean for their alignment then?

[Dannflor]

I think morph is scum

[morph the cat]

And I don't think you're a coward as town. So I'm left with the alternative. That you ARE playing to win con it's just not the one I have.

[Sunflower]

i am absolutely a coward as town, you don't know me

[Hermit Crab]

Sunflower how do you feel about our lord and savior Baja blast?

[Lukewarm]

cabd, I dont exactly love the peanut gallery being in full effect when I am trying to force a conversation

[Sunflower]

shrug

probably feeling more defeatist than usual rn due to oog reasons

my bad will revisit later

[morph the cat]

cabd, I dont exactly love the peanut gallery being in full effect when I am trying to force a conversation

I'm going to bed so it's all you bud.

[Firebringer]

I think morph is scum

do townie things to convince spiffeh ur town for me so i don't have to

[Lukewarm]

cabd, I dont exactly love the peanut gallery being in full effect when I am trying to force a conversation

If I did not already have you in my town pile, this would look a lot like you were trying to get ahead of anything sunflower might have to say, both to demoralize him and to discredit anything he did decide to put out.

[Lukewarm]

It appears fireisredsir has already been ran off.

[Lukewarm]

fwiw fire, my town read on morph has been cracking a bit recently.

GTH, I would still call them town, and at this point I probably would still would let them aim the vote today, because if we handed them the keys and they led us to a scum elim, then that might clear things up anyways.

But that is to say, that I was genuinely reaching out to give you a chance to tell me what you see.

[Lukewarm]

I feel like I really cleared the room.

Guess I am off to bed

[Dannflor]

the way morph handled trying to sort me earlier in the game was just full on busy work and a complete divorce from how they've tried to sort me in past games

i feel a lot of their posting is an pale imitation of the brand of sorting they are actually capable of, instead I think their posts are more focused on looking town / spreading mist / whatever you wanna call it

i think the way they are pushing sunflower/klick together is weird and really agenda'd and not in a good way - I'll admit some part of this is stemming from thinking sunflower/klick are both town

this whole entire interaction with sunflower is very bad faith

and there's a couple things about how they rolled out the deAthy thing that makes me think they were informed

anyway there's that

[Dannflor]

I think morph is scum

do townie things to convince spiffeh ur town for me so i don't have to

why does it matter if spiffeh thinks im town right now

[Dannflor]

And I don't think you're a coward as town. So I'm left with the alternative. That you ARE playing to win con it's just not the one I have.

there are very good reasons to not push certain scum reads until later in the game

there's a reason I haven't pushed you until now

I expect you are aware of this and this is just rhetoric

[morph the cat]

Luke it's not as controversial as I thought because morph is also scumreading them

Herr is townreading shello, but I didn't really love skitter's intro, nor did I love 1888.

I'm basically relying on my ydra read. Skitter hasn't impressed me either way, though the way that pile-on happened after my Sunflower vote was pretty funny. It's not like I've been telegraphing my read fire's first few posts.

At least I hope that was Skitter. :/

i was #townily thinking about the game earlier today and was wondering if this is the sort of game where wolves are just unable to really break into the like 'towny' or social core enough to really do a lot and are just trying to ride it out or s/t only to get steamrolled in a few days time

Yeah, maybe.

town: [oblivion, hermit crab]

town for now, maybe revisit later: [pooky, shello, dunnstral]

townlean: [marci, std]

light townlean, will continually revisit: [dannflor, luke]

low content but gut leans a little towny: [firebagel, gypyx...?]

the rest also sort of fit into tiers for me but im not feeling particularly great about any scumreads so i will leave this as a town half readlist

For anyone else curious, this leaves a PoE of:

morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Firebringer
Brian Skies
Spiffeh
experience/ActionDan
SirCakez
Klick
Bingle
PenguinPower
Cat Scratch Fever

I also cross referenced these names in sunflower's iso, and

morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd) -- called maybe town, but also seemed to tie that up in a preflip on Spiff/AD?

Firebringer - voted, said felt better about them tho when he moved his vote
experience/ActionDan - has voiced suspicions, but ranked lower then klick

Spiffeh - has called scummy

Klick - scum guess in hood
Cat Scratch Fever - recently voted.

Does not appear in Sunflower's iso at all:

Brian Skies
SirCakez
Bingle
PenguinPower


I guess the only surprising one is morph? Everyone else makes sense to not make his list

I'm not at all surprised where we are in fireisred's list based on her play around us. I was particularly amused at how hard she came at me/us after I voted her.

Hey neuter, you around to talk some league with me? My brother was just telling me about this really annoying game he just had

About to sleep but saw this. I sorta gave up league lately. I only play when penguin wants to ARAM or botgame, don't have the time or energy for playing PVP games these days that aren't exactly mafia.

I'm here, though. Can we talk about something else?

Sunflower, what are your current thoughts on morph?

ffery is town and cabd is scum

lmao. ffery voted you.

Luke do you want to talk about your concerns with us?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Dann can you talk about why sunflower is town?

[Dannflor]

And I don't think you're a coward as town. So I'm left with the alternative. That you ARE playing to win con it's just not the one I have.

I guess I think there's a world you're town and say this because you think burying Sunflower here is playing to your win condition and you don't really care how you do it

but I don't really think you actually believe this

[Dannflor]

Dann can you talk about why sunflower is town?

I liked their read on me and progression and I think I'd be a specific pocket target if they were scum and they've barely tried initiating any interactions with me at all

I unironically think jupiter would have been in thread by now if the slot was scum

I think their hidden morph read is towny, I think there's no reason to hide it as scum and I don't expect scum!Sunflower to be afraid of anyone on this playerlist including Morph

I think both Sunflower and Klick's posts/cases on each other were towny and I can case that more specifically tomorrow, but it reminded me of a TvT in a lot of ways because of the specific ways they both basically took personally how the other was going about reading the other. I think sunflower would have reached for other resources if they wanted to "1v1" klick

in general fireisredsir is not really trying to look town this game, and as scum they plant bread crumb trails, do little reflective step backs, and do random towny conspiracy theories all over the place

I don't see that this game. I think fire's energies are on trying to figure out the game and move town towards winning not any specific scum agenda

[morph the cat]

the way morph handled trying to sort me earlier in the game was just full on busy work and a complete divorce from how they've tried to sort me in past games

i feel a lot of their posting is an pale imitation of the brand of sorting they are actually capable of, instead I think their posts are more focused on looking town / spreading mist / whatever you wanna call it

i think the way they are pushing sunflower/klick together is weird and really agenda'd and not in a good way - I'll admit some part of this is stemming from thinking sunflower/klick are both town

this whole entire interaction with sunflower is very bad faith

and there's a couple things about how they rolled out the deAthy thing that makes me think they were informed

anyway there's that

You are completely divorced from how I've seen you in past games.

Town you made this comment in the first game we played.

I don't really have a read on morph the cat despite their volume of posts which is a little worrying

like there's an aggressive charisma there but a lot of the posts feel performative in a NAI way. I don't think the case on T3 is super indicative either way. at that point it is assumed T3 will be dead either way - which ever way T3 flips, piling on more actually makes morph look good because multiball

I feel like I'm doing something similar in this game. I'm giving you room to do stuff without me breathing down your neck, and observing what you do with it.

I found town-you in that game despite scumreading the absolute hell out of the player you replaced. If you're town here, I believe I can find you this time, too.