Newbie 2056: Forkula - Game Over

[BBmolla]

Dear BBmolla, could you please comment on your alignment?

it's my preferred alignment

VOTE: Cabd

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

nvm this is scum

[BBmolla]

can we get more Sal votes

[BBmolla]

can we get more Sal votes

I'm waiting for my newsletter delivery, BB~

BBMOLLA DAILY

in todays news stocks are in the toilet

however, there is good news for those with paper hands. stock in votes on salsa are on the rise, as their opening posts mean they are likely scum

bbmolla was reached for questioning

"yeah at first i just didn't like their font text color but then i actually read their opening posts and they seemed scummy" the fiery attractive redhead said

we asked bbmolla about his outfit and he said "no comment" but then proceeded to comment "i dressed the same way on my first birthday"

[BBmolla]

BBREAKING NEWS

also i think endless is town

[BBmolla]

BBREAKING NEWS

also i think endless is town

Reason?

I liked their posts on page 2, I think they’re more likely to come from town

Salsa who do you think is scum?

[BBmolla]

Endless why aren’t you voting anyone?

[BBmolla]

Cabd knowing info about a game is dull can we drop that discussion?

[BBmolla]

Enchant seems town

[BBmolla]

1st!

Lol, happens sometimes.

I am a vengeful one.

VOTE: Enchant

Hi, good to see you again. And your vote has irony

these are awful fluffposts

why is it confusing that I think these are scummy

[BBmolla]

Enchant seems town

Do you often tonwread people without providing any reason but scumread people by publishing

newsletter

?

i was playing fun with cabd with the newsletter

[BBmolla]

No fun allowed, BB.

No fun allowed.

fun is fine, my point is that scum opening posts tend to use "fun" to hide themselves and it so it shouldn't be confusing or even a question that I think those posts are scummy

like, if I made those posts I think it's reasonable for me to look at them and be like "yeah I can see why someone thinks they're scum"

[BBmolla]

oh lol

what you got for me readwise Cabd

[BBmolla]

Ahris reads are good I agree on Face town

[BBmolla]

My guess is that BBMolla is maf here going for an easy elimination.

Why do you think Salsa is town?

[BBmolla]

y-yikes ignore that post

it isn't fun to play with a town who outs like that aaa

my b seriously thought there was no day chat LOOL

er okay scratch my cabd / salsa theory then

also if mafia has daychat salsa looks better

idk how, if they had a mafia partner, were allowed to post themselves into this situation LOOL

er okay redoing all my reads
UNVOTE: salsa

your entire scumread on salsa was based off of the team only being Cabd/Salsa?

[BBmolla]

meh

it could be Ahri just deflecting from her buddy, her backoff was weird imo, but the more Salsa posts the more I think my read is just a personality read

let's try this

VOTE: unwnd

by the way can anyone actually read Cabd, I really can't

[BBmolla]

Lastly, I would like to remark that I think everything about Ahri is wrong; if she is not scum, she is certainly helping them. Lurks until prodded, flips like hell, jokes of being mafia, I find hard to believe that did not know the scum day chat (and more flipping), makes fun of usual scum-hunting and would rather eliminate a townie on the possibility of going to lylo (and said townie screwing it up) instead of actual scum hunting on Day 1, Day 1!!!
Then again I need to read the posts, and if I still think the above is true, my vote will switch from Enchant to Ahri (it would be very silly for both scums to begin the Dicey game).

this is gross

VOTE: MrSunrise

[BBmolla]

you know now that I think of it I can't read unwnd either this game is hard mode

[BBmolla]

i don't think that line of questioning is a helpful one to the town and would prefer us drop it

[BBmolla]

However, I feel like neither this nor the previous Salsa vote are indicative of genuine scumhunting.
VOTE: BBmolla

Why?

[BBmolla]

Both are easy elimination targets whom you've voted seemingly without a benefit of the doubt. It doesn't help that you don't elaborate your reasoning in your posts, although I do remember you scumread Salsa simply for the fluff, i.e. there's not much other rationale, if I understood correctly.

I feel somewhat bad for my vote, as you aren't particularly scummy, but I also don't scumread anybody else and I don't want to fencesit.

Why do you feel they are easy elimination targets?

Do you feel that scum fluffposting is not a legit reason to scumread someone in a game that was less than five pages?

I just don't really understand your conclusions

[BBmolla]

Why do you feel they are easy elimination targets?

Do you feel that scum fluffposting is not a legit reason to scumread someone in a game that was less than five pages?

I just don't really understand your conclusions

Well if you call it "

scum

fluffposting" that's by definition scummy. I wouldn't say fluff is always scummy, though, depends on the context. I think somebody attempting to appear towny/as if they're doing something useful but in reality just being fluffy is scummy. Being fluffy in a less than five pages game doesn't sound particularly scummy to me.

imagine, if you will, a painting

I'm trying to guess if the painting is a cat or a dog

the painter starts on the painting and draws a tongue

the painter turns to me and tells me to guess which animal he is drawing

given that I generally think in a final product a dog is more likely to have their tongue out, based off the small amount, I guess it's a dog and I think it's a fair guess

as the drawing becomes more apparent, more clues are added that just seems to indicate this is a doglike cat, tongue is out but ears and eyes and face are that of a cat

my point is, given so little, I think it's reasonable to think someone is scum for fluffposting, which you agree "just being fluffy is scummy." obviously as the context formed more, Salsa's playstyle become more clear that she's could just as easily be a scummy looking townie.

so my question is do you think I'm making this up? do you disagree with my notion? if you just disagree, do you think it's an impossible viewpoint to come from town?

[BBmolla]

Lastly, I would like to remark that I think everything about Ahri is wrong; if she is not scum, she is certainly helping them. Lurks until prodded, flips like hell, jokes of being mafia, I find hard to believe that did not know the scum day chat (and more flipping), makes fun of usual scum-hunting and would rather eliminate a townie on the possibility of going to lylo (and said townie screwing it up) instead of actual scum hunting on Day 1, Day 1!!!
Then again I need to read the posts, and if I still think the above is true, my vote will switch from Enchant to Ahri (it would be very silly for both scums to begin the Dicey game).

this is gross

VOTE: MrSunrise

This is scummy.

Why? Do you disagree that it's scummy? Do you understand why I think it's scummy? If not, why did you not ask for clarification?

[BBmolla]

I'm hungover so my analogies might be three times as bad today

[BBmolla]

Wasn't the fun newsletter one of your opening posts?

I made three posts before that so no.

like, if you're arguing these posts are comparable in terms of "fun" content, we can keep going down this discussion line, cause I disagree

Dear BBmolla, could you please comment on your alignment?

it's my preferred alignment

VOTE: Cabd

VOTE: Salsabil Faria

nvm this is scum

can we get more Sal votes

1st!

Lol, happens sometimes.

I am a vengeful one.

VOTE: Enchant

Hi, good to see you again. And your vote has irony

Even in my "fun" news announcement I made serious points soooooooo

[BBmolla]

Cabd and Unwnd am I actually being unclear here I feel a bit like I'm in crazy town

could ya'll commit to some shit too please?

[BBmolla]

What about me and Cabd makes us hard to read BBMolla? Honest takes, don't worry about coherence

Cabd doesn't seem to have any reasonable motivations and you always seem scummy to me just from playstyle

[BBmolla]

What about me and Cabd makes us hard to read BBMolla? Honest takes, don't worry about coherence

Cabd doesn't seem to have any reasonable motivations and you always seem scummy to me just from playstyle

[BBmolla]

Alright so.

Cabd, BBMolla is right. I want you to be town because this is an easy game if we're both town. Problem: I can't divine your alignment, as you would say. Look at the person I'm voting right now. It's clear to me that Facebones was either doing one or two things:

1) He was trying to snuggle up to you as scum
2) He misread your ulterior motive and almost floated you an undeserved townread

Right now I am living in the reality of 1 because it's more comfortable, but you kill me before 2 sets in because looking at the room I doubt there's much to stop you. This is no offense, but I know the pace you're playing at suggests a longcon. Do I scumread Facebones and am I voting him on the pretense of what it means for your alignment? No, but it is definitely a bonus. His behavior to me independently is cognizant of someone who doesn't want to get much attention. The helpfulness comes at a price of never revealing too much of what he feels. Laymen's terms he seems nervous to me. Let it be known that I am not merely picking Facebones out because he is not here, and that I don't fully believe that activity is a catch-all. I think the time he was here plays a bigger part of why he's

not

here.

wait hold on what'd I miss, Facebones seemed pretty town to me

[BBmolla]

Why do you feel they are easy elimination targets?

Do you feel that scum fluffposting is not a legit reason to scumread someone in a game that was less than five pages?

I just don't really understand your conclusions

Well if you call it "

scum

fluffposting" that's by definition scummy. I wouldn't say fluff is always scummy, though, depends on the context. I think somebody attempting to appear towny/as if they're doing something useful but in reality just being fluffy is scummy. Being fluffy in a less than five pages game doesn't sound particularly scummy to me.

imagine, if you will, a painting

I'm trying to guess if the painting is a cat or a dog

the painter starts on the painting and draws a tongue

the painter turns to me and tells me to guess which animal he is drawing

given that I generally think in a final product a dog is more likely to have their tongue out, based off the small amount, I guess it's a dog and I think it's a fair guess

as the drawing becomes more apparent, more clues are added that just seems to indicate this is a doglike cat, tongue is out but ears and eyes and face are that of a cat

my point is, given so little, I think it's reasonable to think someone is scum for fluffposting, which you agree "just being fluffy is scummy." obviously as the context formed more, Salsa's playstyle become more clear that she's could just as easily be a scummy looking townie.

so my question is do you think I'm making this up? do you disagree with my notion? if you just disagree, do you think it's an impossible viewpoint to come from town?

Can you give me meta on your town games, please?

I could but it's gonna be biased, I have a lot of games maybe just look through them?

[BBmolla]

Lastly, I would like to remark that I think everything about Ahri is wrong; if she is not scum, she is certainly helping them. Lurks until prodded, flips like hell, jokes of being mafia, I find hard to believe that did not know the scum day chat (and more flipping), makes fun of usual scum-hunting and would rather eliminate a townie on the possibility of going to lylo (and said townie screwing it up) instead of actual scum hunting on Day 1, Day 1!!!
Then again I need to read the posts, and if I still think the above is true, my vote will switch from Enchant to Ahri (it would be very silly for both scums to begin the Dicey game).

this is gross

VOTE: MrSunrise

This is scummy.

Why? Do you disagree that it's scummy? Do you understand why I think it's scummy? If not, why did you not ask for clarification?

I think you misunderstood my post. Your vote on

MrSunrise

is scummy. It seems opportunistic vote to me, and you're jumping on wagons from which I don't find any town motivation.

So, just to be clear, you didn't have a problem with the section I quoted when I voted?

[BBmolla]

Like it didn't seem scummy to you? Because it sure as hell did to me and I can explain why but I'm out atm, I'll explain when I can

[BBmolla]

Lastly, I would like to remark that I think everything about Ahri is wrong; if she is not scum, she is certainly helping them. Lurks until prodded, flips like hell, jokes of being mafia, I find hard to believe that did not know the scum day chat (and more flipping), makes fun of usual scum-hunting and would rather eliminate a townie on the possibility of going to lylo (and said townie screwing it up) instead of actual scum hunting on Day 1, Day 1!!!
Then again I need to read the posts, and if I still think the above is true, my vote will switch from Enchant to Ahri (it would be very silly for both scums to begin the Dicey game).

this is gross

VOTE: MrSunrise

I found it very weird. Could you please elaborate?

@BBmolla: I would really appreciate some clarification here, thank you.

I think you're reasoning is very strawmanny; Ahri lurked until prodded one time, flipped one time, the jokes of being mafia are whatever, why is it not believable for her to have believed the scum had day chat
These aren't real reasons to think someone is scum, they're just "how can I make this person seem like scum from their actions?"

And then cherry on top you end it with fencesitting

it's pretty blatantly gross and the people who are adamantly fighting that it's gross are either scum or dumb

[BBmolla]

I think you're reasoning is very strawmanny; Ahri lurked until prodded one time, flipped one time, the jokes of being mafia are whatever, why is it not believable for her to have believed the scum had day chat
These aren't real reasons to think someone is scum, they're just "how can I make this person seem like scum from their actions?"

And then cherry on top you end it with fencesitting

it's pretty blatantly gross and the people who are adamantly fighting that it's gross are either scum or dumb

Thank you for your feedback, my initial reaction to your answer is to disagree with most but not the fencesitting, I can see it now, I should have committed to a vote at the time instead of waiting. Since you are SE, I will read and ponder on your answer to see if I get wiser, so once again thank you.

honest question are you a google bot

[BBmolla]

Facebones what does MrSunrise playing robotically have to do with him being a bad flip? You seem to have an association there that doesn't make sense to me.

[BBmolla]

can ya'll give me your scumreads, why are we so stagnant

if ya'll think Sunrise is town, who do you think is scum?

[BBmolla]

Moreover, WHY do you think Sunrise is town?

[BBmolla]

We should absolutely lim at deadline because if we don't we are giving mafia one of our miselims

And we have like two days, and we still need to deal with a claim

it's time to consolidate folks

if it were up to me we'd go Sunrise or Cabd but it doesn't appear like ya'll are on the same page

[BBmolla]

cabd your top scumread is ahri but you're voting unwnd?

[BBmolla]

I REALLY think the stalling of the Sunrise wagon is a good sign and think we should go that route

has anyone actually explained any town reasoning for Sunrise???

and why does anyone scumread me at this point, like honestly, I'm so fucking transparent

[BBmolla]

I super fucking think scum are sitting back and anyone trying to shift the wagon my way is super suspect

I'm blatantly not fucking scum and I'm not gonna let ya'll get away with that shit

[BBmolla]

I hate looking at this game because I can tell ya'll are just try gonna to lazily miselim me despite my fucking attempts to answer your misunderstandingsa

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[BBmolla]

I will do Cabd or Sunrise consider my vote on both

[BBmolla]

Tbh I kind of think Salsa is a VI, no offense

I wouldn’t say no to going that way but I don’t think she’s scum

[BBmolla]

We have 20 hours so you better all be real fucking active today

The lack of Sunrise votes, quite frankly, is insane.

[BBmolla]

I'm a PR

[BBmolla]

can hardclaim which if necessary but would prefer not to

can this wagon die

it was fucking obvious jesus christ

[BBmolla]

like why don't you fucking think why I'm excessive cussing

could it be maybe because I knew ya'll were gonna make me claim with a deadline elim

fucking stupid

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Cabd

[BBmolla]

awful play cabd even if you get a miselim on me today it's not worth it just saying dude

[BBmolla]

Hold on. BB, who are you?

If we can elim Cabd without me hardclaiming it's better but I will if it's entirely necessary, I'd rather not out the other PR

[BBmolla]

There is no other mason

if it we're really considering elimming me then it may be worth other PR just to claim "PR"

it's a huge setback if I don't get to use my ability tonight :/

[BBmolla]

If Cabd gets away with an awful pointless play like this I'm going to screaming from the dead thread I swear to fuck

[BBmolla]

I am fine having the other PR out considering who I am

[BBmolla]

cabd literally does not care

like it's a fucking gambit PLEASE do not fall for it

[BBmolla]

Hold on. BB, who are you?

If we can elim Cabd without me hardclaiming it's better but I will if it's entirely necessary, I'd rather not out the other PR

There is no other mason

Is there a role other than mason that knows the other PR?

Oop well I fucking slipped, I'm not Cop or JK.

I'm a role who knows for a fact there's another PR.

[BBmolla]

I don't know WHAT the other PR is I just know there is one