Anti-Shrine-Maiden HQ (Incident Causer Thread)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Daiyousei seems to think I'm Star Sapphire in the hood for some reason, gonna make a joke there to check if it's a reaction test

Also if your main isn't outed by page 15 can you really call yourself a Mafia Influencer^TM

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Touhou experience levels I've noticed so far:
Daiyousei - High; understands Human/Youkai vs Youkai subcategory distinctions, knows lore of specific fairies
Kagerou - Low, probably only read a few wiki pages, doesn't know what a Youkai is

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Secret information from the misty lake:
Daiyousei is Daiyousei
Daiyousei's read the Inaba 4komas (So

huge

touhou fan)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

how do you both feel about poking at each other/light bussing? i kinda want to come for Reisen a bit for their one post but am ok just ignoring it if they don't want attention drawn to anything so early

also not looking to force anything in a way that would come off as inauthentic

I'm a get hard bussed enjoyer if it comes down to it but it'll probably work less in the secret alt setting

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Updates from the misty lake:
Dai didn't realise account and role names didn't need to match up and thought I was actually Kaguya
We're having good vibe positive energy there

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I can probably pocket Dai long-term, just a question of how useful that is vs just going for a mislim there

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Updates from the misty lake:
Daiyousei has an unspecified day ability she used on Yuuka
Yuuka was telling the truth about her miller thing

Dai also posted a readlist but phoneposting rn
I'm leantown, Larva's probtown, Reisens in the "who? but no bad vibes" tier

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Update from the misty lake:
Daiyousei is testing Koishi's immunity to day abilities but needs to check something before she does

Reisen you should probably be ready to explain your Ascetic is actually roleblocking people who visit you at night and that you shortened it to Ascetic cause you didn't realise the lack of day protection or something

When Dai gets around to visiting you eventually probably I mean

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Mech wise claiming reflexive roleblocker like that would also imply strongwilled/jugg/day vig in the game to get around that

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Updates from the misty lake:
Dai got the expected result assuming Koishis claim is true, and will eventually get around to checking Aya/Reisen

[Kaguya Houraisan]

This is NOT A NEW READ folks. I have already had this feeling and coming back to the thread to find them both vote parked on Koishi of all people?

Wait why am I "of all people". Like, I know that you're literally my only cheerleader here right now buuuuuuuuut justify your town read of me? Only a little? I am EXTREMELY worried about how that came about.

A large part of my read requires something I'm not allowed to do.

Or how many times do I have to say I SEE you before you understand that.

I think Aya's implying a Informed Post Restriction where they're informed Koishi is town but can't claim it?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

While this wasn’t in my ruleset, please refrain from commenting about or hinting at the mains, directly or indirectly, as it kinda goes against the spirit of the anonymous game!

We also aren’t going to do the condescending language. Just so we are at a mutual understanding.

Yeah I was going to sleep but I didn't want to leave this out there so.


I apologize. My frustrations boiled over and I apologize. The condescending language is recalled, but not my objections.

I thought I had a pretty good winning lotto ticket but then it blew away in the wind.

Oh, this reporter Sees you. This is town, breaking news!

Being this circumspect about it being a meta read doesn't add up timing wise

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Update from the Misty Lake:
Reisen is about to be checked

[Kaguya Houraisan]

You probably want to pretend that your ability says something like "night actions that target you, other than kills, will fail as if roleblocked." and that you forgot day abilities were a thing/didn't realize it only applied to night actions/whatever

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Is it like a loyal vig or something?

Can't be given she did her thing on Yuuka who only has the miller thing going

[Kaguya Houraisan]

So far she's checked Yuuka and Koishi and had to double check something with the mod before doing Koishi. Given that's 3 people being checked in one dayphase it's probably a very low power role like checker/visitor/fruit vendor or something

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen here's a list of Touhou characters you could claim with your ascetic if you don't want to trueclaim for some reason:

1. Rumia:
   • Species: Youkai
     
   • Abilities: Manipulating Darkness
     
   • Short overview: A weak Youkai that appears as the Stage 1 Midboss and Boss of Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, she covers herself in pure darkness which prevents sunlight and other traditional lights like torches from being used. People who go inside the darkness can't see anything, but Rumia also can't see anything. Sensitive to the sun, but is fine without using her ability at night. Also eats Humans
2. Kaguya Houraisan:
   • Species: Lunarian
     
   • Abilities: Manipulation of eternity and the instantaneous
     
   • Short explanation of abilities:
     • Able to use power over eternity to reject all change. Things that possess eternity indefinitely do not change, and also cannot be interfered with by things outside of themselves. By using her ability on everything in Eientei, she made it so that living things stopped aging, objects would never break, and food would never spoil.
       
     • Able to use power over the instantaneous to basically manipulate time so that she goes really fast (it's complicated)
       
     • Mafia-wise you could claim Commuter and uhh something with the speedup idk
3. Komachi Onozuka:
   • Species: Shinigami
     
   • Abilities: Manipulation of distance
     
   • Short overview: Ferries departed spirits across the Sanzu River. Very lazy. Can manipulate both physical distance (making things closer or farther) and apparent distance (making it seem like you never get any closer to, or farther away from, a location). Mafia-wise it'd let you claim commuter
4. Kyouko Kasodani:
   • Species: Yamabiko
     
   • Abilities: Reflection of sound
5. Seija Kijin:
   • Species: Amanojaku
     
   • Abilities: Turn over anything (As in literally turn over anything into its opposite state. Her Spell Cards flip the screen horizontally, vertically, and 180 degrees)
6. Sagume Kishin
   • Species: Lunarian
     
   • Abilities: Reversing a situation with her words (When she speaks about a particular situation or event, that situation will eventually proceed to reverse itself, through whatever means possible. If she speaks about an attempt to achieve a goal, it will fail in some way. If she speaks about something bad occurring, it will be resolved in some way. Note that it is the situation or the event she talks about that will be reversed in some manner; it is not that the opposite of what she says must occur.) (Mafia idea here is that you claimed Ascetic so that people can target you)
7. Shion Yorigami:
   • Species: Poverty God
     
   • Abilities: Capable of making people unlucky, including herself (Mafia idea here is to claim to be negative utility and that you claimed Ascetic so town wouldn't visit you while Mafia might try to shoot you and get unlucky)
8. Hisami Yomotsu
   • Species: Yomotsu-shikome
     
   • Abilities: Never letting anything slip from her grasp
     
   • Occupation: Lure people into Hell (Mafia idea is to claim PGO)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'd recommend one of the Commuter fakeclaims if you're not trueclaiming since it cleanly gives you an excuse for claiming Ascetic (and why it'd only work at night) while also being simpler to make a fakeclaim from

[Kaguya Houraisan]

News from the Misty Lake: Daiyousei got the expected result from an Ascetic Claim on Reisen

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Idk how many of those flavor claims are safe.

Yeah that was mostly just for if Dai figured out you weren't day Ascetic

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I'm thinking of using my 2 motivation points to roleblock Koishi (cause Seraph Knight) and someone town!Cirno would be sussing (so that I can trueclaim since I bare minimum have to claim a Misty Lake resident flavor (Cirno/Wakasagihime/arguably anyone from the Scarlet Devil Mansion but that gets a bit iffy)) since I probably won't be getting much motivation points this game after day 1

[Kaguya Houraisan]

We can get some votes going on you d2 to charge your passive back up.

Motivation points reset at the start of every day

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Votes on me D1: Marisa Kirisame, Ichirin Kumoi, Reisen Udongein Inaba, Clownpiece

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yeah that’s what I mean though, just some early votes for motivation points d2 and then we go from there.

There'd need to be 4 votes to make it worth using over the regular roleblock, with 6 to lim I'm not sure it's worth the risk to get an extra roleblock

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It was a yes.

Any idea who dai would be night targeting?

No idea. Looks like roles are formatted as:

• Spellcard
  
• Spellcard
  
• Active
  
• Passive

except for me where Misty Lake counts as an extra passive so if Daiyousei has a night action it'd have to be a spellcard since she's checked 3 people which would take up her Active ability slot. Flavorwise there's not a lot of canon lore about Daiyousei so it'd likely just be "Generic fairy but stronger" spellcard wise

[Kaguya Houraisan]

what are all the claims we know about currently? Did someone claim dayvig or did i dream that or something

we should compile all outed roles/claims in this thread because i know myself and I’m bound to forget them all lol

The dayvig was speculation because Kagerou Imaizumi (

Marisa Kirisame

) probably has the Spellcard

Love Sign "Master Spark"

which is a big ass laser that'd probably be a vig shot of some kind

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -
   Tenshi Hinanawi?
   (This post but could be lying)
   
2. Aya Shameimaru (Immune to Action-Investigative Abilities)
   
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   (Implied due to this post)
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   (Mod confirmed, vig shot)
   
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   (Fullclaim, immunity to all day abilities that Koishi 2 didn't claim in fullclaim (so possibly fake))
   
7. Eternity Larva -
   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -
   Medicine Melancholy
   (Fullclaim)
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   (Misty Lake PT)
   
10. Marisa Kirisame (In a castle flavored hood with Sanae Kochiya)
    
11. Clownpiece -
    not Clownpiece
    (This post)
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya (In a hood with Marisa Kirisame)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

thanks Kaguya that is SUPER helpful, i’m sure that took awhile and i appreciate your efforts

i wonder why Kagerou isn’t just dayvigging Ichirin, that feels the most optimal for town IMO. but i really don’t want that to happen

i hope they dayvig Aya or something

Probably a nightvig shot

[Kaguya Houraisan]

For the Marisa/Sanae hood, given the castle theme I'd guess it's one of:

• Hakugyokurou
  - Ruled out because we have an un-cc'd Youmu claim and the only other resident would be Yuyuko so not enough people for a hood
  
• Palace of the Earth Spirits - Satori Komeiji/Koishi Komeiji/Utsuho Reiuji/Rin Kaenbyou
  
• Scarlet Devil Mansion - Remilia Scarlet/Flandre Scarlet/Sakuya Izayoi/Patchouli Knowledge/Hong Meiling/Koakuma
  
• Shining Needle Castle
  - Ruled out due to Shinmyoumaru Sukuna being the only resident

Purely from a meta perspective I'd imagine Marisa is most likely to be

Patchouli Knowledge

out of that list since it keeps the theme of "Notable Witch" which is why I wont be trying to fakeclaim any SDM resident

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@Yukari

can I get a fake Wakasagihime role PM?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

P.S. I am back to work, but doing video calls without being able ot talk is not very fun.

I am hoping to have sit-down-at-a-computer time this evening, if only for a little bit, to give one last spurt of effort,

as well as make my now mod approved post detailing my targeting that will reveal itself once I die and flip.

Color me interested albeit. It sounded juicy at first and was hoping it would be a mod confirm thing but it sounds like it’s just how your role functions after you die. I think this does have value and am looking forward to it since it at least hashes out the edges of your role and I wasn’t sure if any of it was true.

Oh no, just that I'm allowed to post the player roster and a list of letters, and then tell you that my target is the third letter of my BG's ability name. So that who I chose to target is not at all up for dispute; without having to state it D1 openly, making it useless.

Tenshi - Q
Aya - O
Yuuka - T
Kaguya - R
Kagerou - U
Koishi - F
Larva - S
Ichi - Y
Dai - I (not L)
Marisa - W
Clown - E
Reisen - A
Sanae - D

Spoiler: List of canon Youmu spellcards (Based on the Cirno/Seiran/Nue PMs they should follow the same format):

1. Ghost Sword "Fasting of the Young Preta" - Aya
   
2. Preta Sword "Scroll of the Preta Realm" - Clown
   
3. Hungry King Sword "Ten Kings' Retribution on the Preta"
   - None
   
4. Hell Realm Sword "Two Hundred Yojana in One Slash"
   - None
   
5. Hell Fire Sword "Sudden Phantom Formation Slash of Karmic Wind"
   - None
   
6. Hell God Sword "Sudden Divine Severing of Karmic Wind"
   - None
   
7. Sign III "Sudden Divine Severing of Karmic Wind"
   - None
   
8. Animal Realm Sword "Karmic Punishment of the Idle and Unfocused" - Daiyousei
   
9. Asura Sword "Obsession with the Present World" - Kagerou
   
10. Human Realm Sword "Fantasy of Entering Enlightenment"
    - None
    
11. Human Era Sword "Great Enlightenment Appearing and Disappearing"
    - None
    
12. Human God Sword "Constancy of the Conventional Truth"
    - None
    
13. Heaven Sword "Five Signs of the Dying Deva" - Reisen
    
14. Deva Realm Sword "Displeasure of the Seven Hakus"
    - None
    
15. Heaven God Sword "Three Kons, Seven Hakus" - Reisen
    
16. Six Realms Sword "A Single Thought and Infinite Kalpas"
    - None
    
17. Human Sign "Slash of Present World"
    - None
    
18. Human Oni "Slash of the Eternal Future"
    - None
    
19. Life-Cutting Sword "Slash of Meditation"
    - Koishi, can't self-target
    
20. Hesitation-Cutting Sword "Slash of Departure from Hesitation" - Eternity Larva
    
21. Soul Sign "Wheel of Pain of the Living and Dead" - Kagerou
    
22. Konpaku "Dharma of Gumonji Wisdom of the Living and Dead"
    - None
    
23. Sign I "Double Wheel of Pain"
    - None
    
24. Sign II "Slash of Delusional Inner Eye"
    - None
    
25. Arcanum "Slash of Saigyou Spring Wind"
    - None
    
26. "Matsuyoi-Reflecting Satellite Slash"
    - None (2571)
    
27. Hesitation Sign "Sword of Binding Desires" - Eternity Larva
    
28. Hesitation Sign "Half-Body Disillusion" - Eternity Larva
    
29. Human Knowledge Sword "Turning Angel Cut"
    - None
    
30. Obsession Sword "Blood of Asura" - Eternity Larva
    
31. Celestial Star Sword "As the Silent Nirvana"
    - None
    
32. Four Births Sword "Echoes of the Inclemency of All Beings" - Kagerou
    
33. Sword Skill "Cherry Blossom Flashing" - Aya
    
34. Spirit-Cutting Sword "Slash of Ascension to Buddhahood" - Daiyousei
    
35. Cherry Blossom Sword "Flashing Scattered Flowers" - Clownpiece
    
36. Thought-Cutting Sword "Slash of the Buddhahood of Flora" - Aya
    
37. Closed-Eye Slash "The Bullet-Cutting Spirit Eye from Roukan" - Aya
    
38. Reincarnation Sword "Slash of Circular Vicissitude" - Daiyousei
    
39. Voidness Sword "Slash Clearing the Six Senses" - Daiyousei
    
40. Light Sign "Light Flash of the Netherworld"
    - None
    
41. Higan Sword "Hacking Slashes of Hell and Paradise"
    - None
    
42. Swordmanship "Mōryō Wiping Blood Off of their Blades" - Aya

Spoiler: Duds removed:

1. Ghost Sword "Fasting of the Young Preta" - Aya
   
2. Preta Sword "Scroll of the Preta Realm" - Clown
   
3. Animal Realm Sword "Karmic Punishment of the Idle and Unfocused" - Daiyousei
   
4. Asura Sword "Obsession with the Present World" - Kagerou
   
5. Heaven Sword "Five Signs of the Dying Deva" - Reisen
   
6. Heaven God Sword "Three Kons, Seven Hakus" - Reisen
   
7. Hesitation-Cutting Sword "Slash of Departure from Hesitation" - Eternity Larva
   
8. Soul Sign "Wheel of Pain of the Living and Dead" - Kagerou
   
9. Hesitation Sign "Sword of Binding Desires" - Eternity Larva
   
10. Hesitation Sign "Half-Body Disillusion" - Eternity Larva
    
11. Obsession Sword "Blood of Asura" - Eternity Larva
    
12. Four Births Sword "Echoes of the Inclemency of All Beings" - Kagerou
    
13. Sword Skill "Cherry Blossom Flashing" - Aya
    
14. Spirit-Cutting Sword "Slash of Ascension to Buddhahood" - Daiyousei
    
15. Cherry Blossom Sword "Flashing Scattered Flowers" - Clownpiece
    
16. Thought-Cutting Sword "Slash of the Buddhahood of Flora" - Aya
    
17. Closed-Eye Slash "The Bullet-Cutting Spirit Eye from Roukan" - Aya
    
18. Reincarnation Sword "Slash of Circular Vicissitude" - Daiyousei
    
19. Voidness Sword "Slash Clearing the Six Senses" - Daiyousei
    
20. Swordmanship "Mōryō Wiping Blood Off of their Blades" - Aya

Spoiler: Sorted by player names:

1. Ghost Sword "Fasting of the Young Preta" - Aya
   
2. Sword Skill "Cherry Blossom Flashing" - Aya
   
3. Thought-Cutting Sword "Slash of the Buddhahood of Flora" - Aya
   
4. Closed-Eye Slash "The Bullet-Cutting Spirit Eye from Roukan" - Aya
   
5. Swordmanship "Mōryō Wiping Blood Off of their Blades" - Aya
   
6. Preta Sword "Scroll of the Preta Realm" - Clownpiece
   
7. Cherry Blossom Sword "Flashing Scattered Flowers" - Clownpiece
   
8. Animal Realm Sword "Karmic Punishment of the Idle and Unfocused" - Daiyousei
   
9. Spirit-Cutting Sword "Slash of Ascension to Buddhahood" - Daiyousei
   
10. Reincarnation Sword "Slash of Circular Vicissitude" - Daiyousei
    
11. Voidness Sword "Slash Clearing the Six Senses" - Daiyousei
    
12. Hesitation-Cutting Sword "Slash of Departure from Hesitation" - Eternity Larva
    
13. Hesitation Sign "Sword of Binding Desires" - Eternity Larva
    
14. Hesitation Sign "Half-Body Disillusion" - Eternity Larva
    
15. Obsession Sword "Blood of Asura" - Eternity Larva
    
16. Asura Sword "Obsession with the Present World" - Kagerou
    
17. Soul Sign "Wheel of Pain of the Living and Dead" - Kagerou
    
18. Four Births Sword "Echoes of the Inclemency of All Beings" - Kagerou
    
19. Heaven Sword "Five Signs of the Dying Deva" - Reisen
    
20. Heaven God Sword "Three Kons, Seven Hakus" - Reisen

Possible Seraph Knight targets:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru - 5/20
   
3. Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi - 3/20
   
6. Koishi Komeiji
   
   
7. Eternity Larva - 4/20
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi
   
   
9. Daiyousei - 4/20
   
10. Marisa Kirisame
    
    
11. Clownpiece - 2/20
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - 2/20
    
13. Sanae Kochiya

Can probably narrow it down further by lore but these are always safe to target

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Cheers, thanks

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Possible Seraph Knight targets:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru - 5/20
   
3. Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi - 3/20
   
6. Koishi Komeiji
   
   
7. Eternity Larva - 4/20
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi
   
   
9. Daiyousei - 4/20
   
10. Marisa Kirisame
    
    
11. Clownpiece - 2/20
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - 2/20
    
13. Sanae Kochiya

Can probably narrow it down further by lore but these are always safe to target

Spoiler: Old Reads order to reference

{Larva, Clown, Kaguya}
{Sanae}
~End Die for Tier~
{Tenshi}
{Kagerou*, Yuuka, Dai*}
{Marisa*, Reisen*,}
~End Giant Middle of the Pack~
{Aya*}
{Ichirin}

Now it's more like (Not for the above, but for this one, groupings are most to least town left to right)
{Clown, Kaguya, Yuuka}
{Tenshi, Larva}
{Sanae, Aya, Reisen}
{Marisa, Dai, Ichi}
~~~~~~~~
Werewolf holding a gun who will self-resolve on their choice of shoot: {Kagerou}


And I have lots of words to give tonight, it would seem. Unfortunately I will soon be phone posting, so please enjoy this rushed bundle of thoughts I can manage for the next 12 or so minutes.

Aya/Kagerou/Dai/Reisen almost definitely don't get a protection based off this readslist so it's between Larva and Clownpiece most likely

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Spellcards:

1. Preta Sword "Scroll of the Preta Realm" - Clownpiece - Perfect Cherry Blossom (7th game) Stage 5
   
2. Cherry Blossom Sword "Flashing Scattered Flowers" - Clownpiece - Scarlet Weather Rhapsody (10.5th game, fighting game spinoff)
   
3. Hesitation-Cutting Sword "Slash of Departure from Hesitation" - Eternity Larva - Immaterial and Missing Power (7.5th game, fighting game spinoff), Scarlet Weather Rhapsody (10.5th game, fighting game spinoff), The Grimoire of Marisa (Book)
   
4. Hesitation Sign "Sword of Binding Desires" - Eternity Larva - Phantasmagoria of Flower View (9th game) Spell Card Lv2/3
   
5. Hesitation Sign "Half-Body Disillusion" - Eternity Larva - Phantasmagoria of Flower View (9th game) Spell Card Boss
   
6. Obsession Sword "Blood of Asura" - Eternity Larva - Shoot the Bullet (9.5th game) Stage 6-4

Lore dump:

Preta Realm (餓鬼道; Gakido): one of the Six Realms of Rebirth (六道; Rokudo) in Buddhism. This realm is based on possessiveness and desire, and is considered to have the third-lowest rank of the six realms. The "Scroll of Preta" (餓鬼草紙) is a Japanese national treasure.

Youmu's sword works on spirits by severing hesitation, which is the equivalent of helping someone reach Nirvana

By the way, "Departure From Hesitation" is apparently the boat that ferries souls across to Higan from the world of the unenlightened. So I guess a literal translation would be "Gonna-Kill-Ya Slash".

Obsession Sword "Blood of Asura" is the translation for 妄執剣「修羅の血」 (Moushuuken "Shura no Chi"). The first part, 妄執剣, can be separated into 妄執 meaning deep-rooted delusion or a firm conviction based on incorrect beliefs, and 剣 meaning sword. The second part, 修羅の血, is pretty much translated literally in the official translation and can be separated into 修羅 meaning Asura (the Hindu mythology kind), 血 meaning blood, and の being used as a particle to turn it into "Blood of Asura"

Mech dump:
So far the only spellcards used in the Yukari/Cirno/Seiran/Nue/Wakasagihime have come from the Danmaku games instead of fighting games

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I think Clownpiece is the likelier target simply cause of the double whammy of higher on the readslist and Perfect Cherry Blossom Spellcards being at the top on the default sorting on Youmu's wiki page

[Kaguya Houraisan]

hmmmm i’m debating claiming our Spellcard Refresh factional ability as one of my spell cards in place of the strongwill one if/when mass-claim rolls around

feel free to tell me why this is a bad idea

just a thought, still need to think that one through

List of canon Seiran Spellcards:

1. Evil Bullet "Speed Strike"
   
2. Bullet Sign "Eagle Shooting"
   
3. Bullet Sign "The Eagle Shot Its Target"
   
4. Gun Sign "Lunatic Gun"
   
5. Bullet Sign "Rabbit Falconer"
   
6. Dream Bullet "Lunatic Dream Shot"

You'd need a different flavor claim for that I think?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually no, Bullet Sign "The Eagle Shot Its Target" would be a great flavor name for a Spellcard Refresh ability

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -
   Tenshi Hinanawi?
   (This post but could be lying)
   
2. Aya Shameimaru (Immune to Action-Investigative Abilities)
   
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   (Implied due to this post)
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   (Mod confirmed, vig shot)
   
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   (Fullclaim, immunity to all day abilities that Koishi 2 didn't claim in fullclaim (so possibly fake))
   
7. Eternity Larva -
   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -
   Medicine Melancholy
   (Fullclaim)
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   (Misty Lake PT)
   
10. Marisa Kirisame - any of
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    /
    Sakuya Izayoi
    /
    Hong Meiling
    /
    Koakuma
    (In a castle flavored hood with Sanae Kochiya, meaning Scarlet Devil Mansion Resident)
    
11. Clownpiece -
    not Clownpiece
    (This post)
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -
    Patchouli Knowledge
    (Fullclaim)

Updated

[Kaguya Houraisan]

good work Kaguya, i thought you really towned it up with your posts the last 24 hours!

i think i look a bit worse coming out of the day but we're better off that i don't look so obvtown that people start questioning why i don't get nightkilled so overall a net positive!

i am toying with the idea of going into Day 2 bussing Reisen but don't know if that would look sketchy af. i imagine Reisen will be receiving a lot of heat tomorrow regardless

thoughts on nightkills/roleblocks? my initial thought was to rolecop Marisa with my ability, roleblock Kagerou's vig shot?

maybe kill Yuuka or just stick with Clownpiece/Koishi?

If Kagerou's shooting town then there's no point in roleblocking her. If we're not planning on shooting Clownpiece this game there's also no reason to block Koishi. I think Aya might actually be

Aya

so I wanna block there in case of investigatives. Might also be worth letting Sanae treestump herself just in case people decide to reassess and consider roleblocker

For reference I have 2 motivation points right now

[Kaguya Houraisan]

(i really think he's just BGing Clownpiece tho)

She's almost certainly BGing Clownpiece

[Kaguya Houraisan]

and roleblocking Kagerou automatically makes them look bad if there's no one dead at their hand going into Day 2.

keeps a miselim in play

If she hits a townie ELO is one day sooner assuming no protectives/blockers stop a kill

[Kaguya Houraisan]

And we can still argue scum vigilante

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Known night actions:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -
   Tenshi Hinanawi?
   - Unknown
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru?
   - Unknown
   
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   - Unknown, Possible Spellcards:
   • "Flower Shooting"
     
   • "Fantastic Spring Flowers"
     
   • Flower Sign "Blossoming of Gensokyo"
     
   • Fantasy "The Beauties of Nature" (花鳥風月 (kachou fuugetsu, lit. 'flowers, birds, wind, moon'): an idiom referring to the beautiful aspects of nature. 嘯風弄月 (shoufuu rougetsu, lit. 'howling wind, marvelous moon'): an idiom referring to acts of enjoying the beauty of nature, in particular reciting poetry while wind howls through pine trees, or while marveling at the sight of the Moon.)
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   - Vigging unknown (Love Sign "Master Spark")
   
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   - Seraph Knighting Clownpiece (Preta Sword "Scroll of the Preta Realm")
   
7. Eternity Larva -
   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   - Unknown, no canon spellcards
   
10. Marisa Kirisame - any of
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    /
    Sakuya Izayoi
    /
    Hong Meiling
    /
    Koakuma
    - Unknown
    
11. Clownpiece -
    not Clownpiece
    - Unknown
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -
    Patchouli Knowledge
    - Treestumping (Fire Water Wood Metal Earth Sign "Philosopher's Stone")

[Kaguya Houraisan]

The ratio of flavor matching account names for townies is 4 matches to 6 mismatches assuming Aya and Tenshi match, some of us are gonna need to fakeclaim flavor that matches username otherwise town will eventually figure something's up when there's 4 matches to 9 mismatches on what's supposed to be a 50/50.
I can't claim anything that isn't Cirno or Wakasagihime as long as Daiyousei is still alive since she knows I'm supposed to be a Misty Lake resident so that'd have to be you two

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No I mean you'd have to claim Reisen/Larva would have to claim Larva

[Kaguya Houraisan]

my active leaves a Dango behind when i target someone so i assume i have to stick with Seiran? unless that Eternity Larva also does that or something lol

can you walk me through why it's an issue that none of our flavors match our usernames?

The chance of 9+ people having flavor that doesn't match account names is ~13.34% (Assuming I'm not messing up my math and it's a 50/50 on if your name matches your flavor or not). If town's smart they'll realize scum always have different flavor after the massclaim (or assume that scum with the same flavor as name are fakeclaiming, whatever) and decide to locktown the people whos flavor matches their account name

[Kaguya Houraisan]

my active leaves a Dango behind when i target someone so i assume i have to stick with Seiran? unless that Eternity Larva also does that or something lol

can you walk me through why it's an issue that none of our flavors match our usernames?

Eternity Larva doesn't have anything to do with Dango so yeah you'd have to stick with your true flavor/fakeclaim a non-Larva flavor which wouldn't help with the problem

[Kaguya Houraisan]

i don't think that's necessarily a thing we have to be worried about unless i'm missing something

where is it confirmed that it's a 50/50 chance for town's account names to match flavor names?

Q&A

Q1:

How was the account name randomized?

A1:

If requested to be randomized from the choices, the name was randomized between the choices with 50% chance for the first selection, 33% chance for the second selection, and 17% chance for the third selection, to prioritize the first selection as much as possible. If requested otherwise, the name was randomized from the entire selection of Touhou characters. If the name was already taken, I either used the next name on the list or rolled for a random name again depending on your choice.

if the Dango i leave behind is a Seiran-specific thing i don't think it'd be good for me to claim to be anyone else

You can claim Ringo too if you need to but that's the only other touhouite that I know has anything to do with dango

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Technically Remilia calls Reisen a dango maker in her win quote in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody (10.5th Touhou game, one of the fighting game spinoffs) but that's some really obscure lore and people might not believe Reisen claiming the dango for you (alternatively you can just lie and not claim the dango?)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

i guess what i'm not understanding is where the player's alignment comes into play

like what would cause town to make the jump that all players with account names matching flavor names are town?

Because it's pretty unlikely to happen if scum also get usernames matching flavor? Maybe I'm just catastrophizing

[Kaguya Houraisan]

but like I know as town if I saw a 4:9 ratio of usernames matching flavor when expecting something closer to 6:7 I'd suspect something's up

[Kaguya Houraisan]

New lore just dropped, moon rabbits make dango so Reisen can claim Reisen and claim the dango I guess

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Nah actually I think I'm just catastrophizing and we should just do what we were doing before

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I’m flavor claiming reisen right?

Something like this ok for you?

Reisen Udongein Inaba

You are

Reisen Udongein Inaba - Lunar-Minded and Asynchronous Youkai Rabbit

.
You are aligned with

Incident Resolver

Abilities:

Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Commute
"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Give target some kind of debuff? Lore wise this should basically make your target go crazy so some sort of redirection?

ESP waves

[Active][Night]

- If your target is a moon rabbit (Canon moon rabbits: Reisen Udongein Inaba, Reisen (yes there's two Reisens in Touhou), Seiran, Ringo) create a neighborhood with them.

Lunar Refugee

[Passive]

- Ascetic (maybe night ascetic?)

Win Condition:

Eliminate all

Incident Causers

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Larva:
Dango Salesgirl Marisa Kirisame - i've laid the groundwork of being a little suspicious of her towards the end of the day so this would make sense coming from town!me

You might be able to grab Master Spark if you dango Kagerou? Would probably be in the second slot though just cause of this

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Kaguya Houraisan uses Ice Sign "Perfect Freeze" on Aya Shameimaru and Sanae Kochiya

Eternity Larva uses Dango Salesgirl on Marisa Kirisame

Reisen Udongein Inaba uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

Kaguya Houraisan uses Spellcard Refresh on "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

Reisen Udongein Inaba kills Koishi Komeiji

@mod

can you refresh a spellcard on the same night it's used? Can you refresh a spent spellcard and use it on the same night?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Give target some kind of debuff? Lore wise this should basically make your target go crazy so some sort of redirection?

"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Strongwilled ability. Make your target go insane. Positive and Neutral effects your target was using (e.g. Protection/Investigation/Miscellaneous/Jailkeep) get redirected to you, Negative effects your target was using (e.g. Blocking, Kill) get redirected to your target

[Kaguya Houraisan]

"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Strongwilled ability. Make your target go insane. Positive and Neutral effects your target was using (e.g. Protection/Investigation/Miscellaneous/Jailkeep) get redirected to you, Negative effects your target was using (e.g. Blocking, Kill) get redirected to your target

wait no that wouldn't work with the ascetic lol

[Kaguya Houraisan]

it could probably work as a "redirect all your targets actions to themselves/completely random targets" though

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Commute

This can also work as an Alien flavor-wise since you're basically causing people to hallucinate that the moon is gone

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It would have to just be straight up ascetic since dai checked me during the day no?

You're not Ascetic though so her results should be indistinguishable between Not Ascetic/Night Ascetic/Ascetic

[Kaguya Houraisan]

claiming straight up regular ascetic though is easier yeah

[Kaguya Houraisan]

The neighborhood thing could be a good idea though.

Do you have a preference for what kind of effects you want your spellcards to have? There's enough canon ones to make a lot of things work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen Udongein Inaba

You are

Reisen Udongein Inaba - Lunar-Minded and Asynchronous Youkai Rabbit

.
You are aligned with

Incident Resolver

Abilities:

Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Shifting yourself out of tune with the rest of the world, you become completely untargetable and unable to act for one night
"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Make your target go insane. Redirect all of your targets actions to themselves for one night.

ESP waves

[Active][Night]

- Moon rabbits can send "ESP waves" and recieve them with their ears, forming a sort of psychic network. If your target is a moon rabbit create a neighborhood with them.
(Canon moon rabbits: Reisen Udongein Inaba, Reisen , Seiran, Ringo)

Lunar Refugee

[Passive]

- Your experience with evading Lunarians has made you quite stealthy. Actions that target you, other than kills, will fail as if roleblocked

Win Condition:

Eliminate all

Incident Causers

Finalized flavor if you need to claim immediately (Though in that case just trueclaiming might be better), we can workshop it further

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Side note, still no information on Daiyousei's abilities but flavor-wise since she has no canon spellcards the mod might have taken them from the Touhou LostWord gacha game (wow I am really pulling out the bottom of the barrel here) where her spellcards are:

1. Swap: Changeling
   • Daiyousei's Spell Card (a Touhou LW original). Cirno overheard a story about fairies in a foreign land when she went to the Scarlet Devil Mansion. Then, she told the story to Daiyousei, who made this Spell Card based on it―the result of a story told and retold. Why did it end up like this...?
     
   • Drops a 500kg-16000kg weight on the target
2. Hoax: Cottingley Fairies
   • Daiyousei's Spell Card (a Touhou LW original). This was the new Spell Card she came up with after hearing about something that happened in the outside world from Luna Child. When Daiyousei first heard the story, she thought, ''Humans in the outside world are so strange. Why go to the trouble of making fake fairies when it'd be so much easier to ask real ones to come?''
     
   • Summons 4 fake fairies that up defense and evasion
3. Everyday Magic
   • Daiyousei's Last Word (a Touhou LW original). One day, Cirno told Daiyousei that the people in the outside world dreamed of a world where magic was used in everyday life. Daiyousei could not understand what would be so good about it, so she tried to ask Marisa and the others, but all she got in response were magic bullets. In the end, she went to Luna Child, who told her about the kind of magic that humans from the outside wanted to be real. This Spell Card is Daiyousei's idea of magic imagined by humans from the outside.
     
   • Heals health, increases evasion and defense

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Well... that happened

[Kaguya Houraisan]

ngl I'm stunlocked by this chain of events

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I am the fucking best.

I redirected all abilities that targetted Koishi to Larva.

Night Actions

Kaguya Houraisan uses Ice Sign "Perfect Freeze" on Aya Shameimaru and Sanae Kochiya

ROBBED

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Guess it's strongwilled but still that's some highway robbery right there

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'm claiming Wakasagihime as a protective type role, you're free to trueclaim if you think it'll help

[Kaguya Houraisan]

With the

Aya Shameimaru

hood + Commute, Clownpiece is probably one of:

1. Nitori Kawashiro:
   • What spellcard would commute: Optics "Optical Camouflage"
2. Hina Kagiyama
   • What spellcard would commute: Wound Sign "Exiled Doll"
3. Nemuno Sakata
   • What spellcard would commute: Murder Sign "Deeply-Secluded Yamanba"

from most to least likely

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Thoughts on no-killing tonight so that I can claim to have stopped a kill? We'd lose our lead on kills but idk if either of us can really endgame otherwise

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Also I was briefly in a neighborhood with larva last night, I assumed it was a lunarian thing since it had to do with the moon but Kaguya wasn’t there and I think kaguya is lunarian?

Role PMs follow a:

• Spellcard
  
• Spellcard
  
• Active
  
• Passive
  
• Optional Passive

format so I'm assuming you're changing

ESP waves

[Active][Night]

- Moon rabbits can send "ESP waves" and recieve them with their ears, forming a sort of psychic network. If your target is a moon rabbit create a neighborhood with them.
(Canon moon rabbits: Reisen Udongein Inaba, Reisen , Seiran, Ringo)

To be something like

ESP waves

[Active][Day]

- Moon rabbits can send "ESP waves" and recieve them with their ears, forming a sort of psychic network. Use this action during the day to create a hood with everyone that can percieve ESP waves for the next night (i.e. hood gets created when night starts and gets perma-locked when night ends).
(Canon moon rabbits: Reisen Udongein Inaba, Reisen , Seiran, Ringo)

since you also wanted to claim Ascetic

[Kaguya Houraisan]

That's great
But also ... why would scum try to kill Koishi

Oh jeez I don't know, maybe because i'm a fucking outed bodyguard who makes it impossible for them to kill one of my townreads that I posted publicly?

I think that kinda confirms clown? Unless scum were thinking Koishi would protect larva.

Her target isn't public info lol, you are now in the "checked every Youmu spellcard" category of players

Possible Seraph Knight targets:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru - 5/20
   
3. Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi - 3/20
   
6. Koishi Komeiji
   
   
7. Eternity Larva - 4/20
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi
   
   
9. Daiyousei - 4/20
   
10. Marisa Kirisame
    
    
11. Clownpiece - 2/20
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - 2/20
    
13. Sanae Kochiya

Can probably narrow it down further by lore but these are always safe to target

Spoiler: Old Reads order to reference

{Larva, Clown, Kaguya}
{Sanae}
~End Die for Tier~
{Tenshi}
{Kagerou*, Yuuka, Dai*}
{Marisa*, Reisen*,}
~End Giant Middle of the Pack~
{Aya*}
{Ichirin}

Now it's more like (Not for the above, but for this one, groupings are most to least town left to right)
{Clown, Kaguya, Yuuka}
{Tenshi, Larva}
{Sanae, Aya, Reisen}
{Marisa, Dai, Ichi}
~~~~~~~~
Werewolf holding a gun who will self-resolve on their choice of shoot: {Kagerou}


And I have lots of words to give tonight, it would seem. Unfortunately I will soon be phone posting, so please enjoy this rushed bundle of thoughts I can manage for the next 12 or so minutes.

Aya/Kagerou/Dai/Reisen almost definitely don't get a protection based off this readslist so it's between Larva and Clownpiece most likely

[Kaguya Houraisan]

That's great
But also ... why would scum try to kill Koishi

Oh jeez I don't know, maybe because i'm a fucking outed bodyguard who makes it impossible for them to kill one of my townreads that I posted publicly?

I think that kinda confirms clown? Unless scum were thinking Koishi would protect larva.

Her target isn't public info lol, you are now in the "checked every Youmu spellcard" category of players

Want me to call you out on this in thread?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually no you still have the excuse of "probably protected top townread" which would be clown

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Thoughts on no-killing tonight so that I can claim to have stopped a kill? We'd lose our lead on kills but idk if either of us can really endgame otherwise

Extremely big brain play: You shoot me and claim you used the "person targets themself" spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Strongwilled ignores redirects so that wouldn't work actually, ace in the hole for n3 if we both make it that far since that's when Koishi is unbinding

[Kaguya Houraisan]

wait nvm strongwilled only triggers when Koishi dies so it'd work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@mod if a Seraph Knight with the ability to unbind from their target unbinds the same night as their target is targeted with a killing action, does the unbind resolve before or after the kill? (Basically are they still protecting their target the night they unbind?)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I got put in a hood with clownpiece and asked to claim so I'll be claiming the Wakasagihime protective

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Song Sign "Mermaid's Song" - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled, get 3 fish total that night from singing
Fish Sign "School of Fish" - Doctor a person per 2 fish

Sing - Get a fish
Misty Lake Resident - Hood with Dai

Basically what I'm gonna claim

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually no I need an extra passive since hoods occupy the optional passive slot

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually no I need an extra passive since hoods occupy the optional passive slot

Ignored - People tend to ignore you. Invisible to Action Investigatives

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Okay shot on you, koishi dies, I can claim it but it implicates you in a roundabout way. It can be an in the pocket play for sure.

btw this wouldn't work since the kill gets resolved after the unbind

[Kaguya Houraisan]

btw I claimed in Clown hood and Dai hood, also said I have 3 fish rn and 4 at the end of the night

Clown has a Kingmaker spellcard she played d2 cause she was told to by Aya (also said to notice how the lim said it wasn't changed)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Ok clown fullclaimed:
Non-consec commuter [Active] (commuted n1)

Cop [Spellcard]
Pick who gets limmed? [Spellcard]

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Clown wants to Cop in Yuuka/Kagerou/Aya

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Not anymore since she used the spellcard d2

Dai claimed in hood, she can target someone to redirect everyone targeting her to her target, and if they die she dies

rn the updated plan is "Doctor" Clownpiece/Clownpiece cops Yuuka/Dai goes to Yuuka's house

So far Dai hasn't been sent the updated plan and still thinks she needs to target Clownpiece so it's a question of if we think Clownpiece is trueclaiming to me (In which case I don't update Daiyousei and we can get a double kill) or if Clownpiece is lying about being killable in which case we proceed with the updated plan and just kill Aya/Koishi

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Reisen Udongein Inaba kills Clownpiece

Reisen Udongein Inaba uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

Kaguya Houraisan uses Spellcard Refresh on "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

If I can use "Very Unfair and Border-line Rule-breaking Outside Contact" for Reisen then I'd also like to ask "Does Clownpiece have the ability to prevent the factional kill on themselves tonight? (e.g. Commute, Bulletproof, Roleblock anyone who visits them would return positive. Non-consecutive Commuter who commuted n1 would return negative)"

[Kaguya Houraisan]

"Very Unfair and Borderline Rule-Breaking Outside Contact": "Does Clownpiece have the ability to prevent the factional kill on themselves tonight? (e.g. Commute, Bulletproof, Roleblock anyone who visits them would return positive. Non-consecutive Commuter who commuted n1 would return negative)"

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Baller

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen only thing left to do is decide how we're hedging against how Koishi's unbind works

If it works by:
N1: Bind
N2: Unbind
N3: Bind

Then me sleeping so that you can set up the Lunatic Red Eyes fakeclaim later (since no one would be roleblocked) is better

If it works by:
N1: Bind
N2: Unbind then immediately Bind

Then I have to roleblock Koishi tonight and tomorrow so that we can kill Aya

[Kaguya Houraisan]

wait nvm Koishi isn't informed about if their bind/unbind worked

@mod if a Seraph Knight with the ability to unbind bound to me n1 then unbound n2, does that count as them targeting me during the night (n2) for the purpose of Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Pain

Night Actions

Reisen Udongein Inaba kills Clownpiece

Kaguya Houraisan uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Koishi Komeiji

Reisen Udongein Inaba uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Clownpiece

Kaguya Houraisan uses Spellcard Refresh on Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"

I think roleblocking Koishi twice is optimal, the Clownpiece investigation hide is so that Aya doesn't get the PT and out me

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@mod PT Cop counts as an investigation for the purpose of Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" right?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   
   
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   
   
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   
   
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   
   
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    
    
11. Clownpiece -
    Eiki Shiki?
    
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   • [Spellcard/Night] Deflector
     
   • [Spellcard] Publish all PTs found with Camera (Unknown which phase)
     
   • [Active/Night] PT Cop
     
   • [Passive] Actions resolve first
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   • Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Vigilante
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Burglary - Flavor Cop with extra effects
     
   • [Passive] Unknown
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Compulsive Seraph Knight
     
   • [Passive] Unknown
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Redirect all actions targeting her to her target, if her target dies she dies
     
   • [Active/Day] Unknown, used it to check Yuuka/Aya/Reisen/Koishi d1
     
   • Misty Lake Resident [Passive] In a Hood with Kaguya Houraisan
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Active] Unknown
      
    • [Passive] Unknown
      
    • Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] In a Hood with Sanae Kochiya
11. Clownpiece -
    Eiki Shiki?
    • [Spellcard] Cop
      
    • [Spellcard] Decide who gets limmed (Used)
      
    • [Active/Night] Non-consecutive Commuter
      
    • [Passive] Randomly get put in a hood?
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

Aya doesn't have her Camera N2 and Clownpiece's getting shot so the only investigative shot that should be going through is probably Kagerou's Burglary. From her perspective the game should be

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   
   
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   
   
4. Kaguya Houraisan - Claimed to not be able to fake claim flavor
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   
   
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   
   
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei - Unknown
   
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    
    
11. Clownpiece - Unknown, also commuting
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - Unknown, also Ascetic
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Reisen Udongein Inaba kills Clownpiece

Kaguya Houraisan uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Koishi Komeiji

Kaguya Houraisan uses Spellcard Refresh on Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"

Gotta save the Dark Clouds for N3 when Aya gets her Camera back

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually tomorrow is 7p 5/2, d4 is 3/2 ELO so if we're lucky we only need to worry about another night of night actions

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Does Koishi even need to be roleblocked when Aya and Koishi are both basically conftown? It just changes who we're taking in to 5p ELO

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I guess having the option of who to take into 5p is good and it lets you make the Lunatic Red Eyes play since Koishi doesn't get told if she gets roleblocked (also I don't want to make crazy plays when sleep deprived (inb4 Yuuka targets me with an investigative))

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Reisen Udongein Inaba kills Clownpiece

Kaguya Houraisan uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Koishi Komeiji

Reisen Udongein Inaba uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

Kaguya Houraisan uses Spellcard Refresh on Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"

We have the spellcard refreshes to keep you ascetic since you can refresh a used spellcard and then use it in the same phase, might as well not risk it

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kagerou Flavor Copping me is a Problem^TM

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Maybe not as big of a problem given that if they got an ice cube they would have gone for me cause of the Sanae block

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Hmm I just realized I don't actually have to claim the Misty Lake hood now since Daiyousei's PM didn't flip

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   • [Spellcard/Night] Deflector (Used)
     
   • [Spellcard] Publish all PTs found with Camera
     
   • [Active/Night] PT Cop
     
   • [Passive] Actions resolve first
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   • [Spellcard] Unknown (Used)
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active] Self-Watcher
     
   • [Passive] Super Miller
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Cirno
   
   
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   • Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Vigilante (Used)
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Burglary - Flavor Cop with extra effects
     
   • [Passive] Unknown
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Compulsive Seraph Knight
     
   • [Passive] Unknown
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -

   Daiyousei
   
   
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
    /
    Flandre Scarlet
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Active] Unknown
      
    • [Passive] Unknown
      
    • Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] In a Hood with Sanae Kochiya
11. Clownpiece -

    Toyosatomimi no Miko
    
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Nue Houjuu
    
    
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

By POE looks like Marisa can disable passives (since we know Daiyousei targeted Clownpiece last night), GTH I'd put that as +Remilia

[Kaguya Houraisan]

oh yeah no, i disable actives

actually i had my passive disabled last day, that was the thing that i didn't wanna claim since like, it's not like it was changing anything and it could actually mess scum up a bit

Was it disabled for the day only or also for the night?

But yeah kagerou is baiting here surely.

Yeah

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Ok I'm gonna 1v2 Yuuka/Kagerou here by claiming to have protected Aya + Koishi N2, that should bring you in F3 with Marisa and one of Kagerou/Yuuka

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Alternatively, bussing me here instantly wins you the game by POE since it goes

D3 start: 5/2; Kaguya lim
N3 start: 5/1; Koishi kill
D4 start: 4/1; POE shot
N4 start: 3/1; Aya kill
D5 start: 2/1; POE shot

Up to you how you want to play it, I think a bus wins the game here it's just a question of how to make it work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

For reference the fullclaim is:

Song Sign "Mermaid's Song" [Spellcard/Night] - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled
Fish Sign "School of Fish" [Spellcard/Night] - Doctor a person per 2 fish

Sing [Active/Night] - Get a fish, get 3 fish total if Song Sign "Mermaid's Song" is used at the same time. Resolves before Fish Sign "School of Fish"
Ignored [Passive] - People tend to ignore you. Invisible to Action Investigatives
Misty Lake Resident [Passive] - Hood with Dai

and the plan is to claim I fullclaimed in the hood, doc'd Koishi + Aya, Dai had the idea to go to Clownpiece's house just in case Clownpiece was fakeclaiming, then accuse Yuuka of being a PGO when maf shot one of Aya/Koishi and that Kagerou is the other maf for lying about the burglar shot

When I inevitably get cc'd by Kagerou I pivot to the idea that it's Kagerou + Not Yuuka and that maf got put in the hood which is how they knew Clownpiece wasn't a commuter.

If I win the 1v1 against Kagerou then it's

N3 start: Aya/Yuuka/Kaguya/Koishi/Marisa/Reisen; Kill a conftown
D4 start: Aya/Yuuka/Kaguya/Marisa/Reisen; Die
N4 start: Aya/Yuuka/Marisa/Reisen; Kill a conftown
D5 start: Yuuka/Marisa/Reisen

[Kaguya Houraisan]

God this game

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Oh I just realised I can't even block Aya with Perfect Freeze cause my motivation got disabled

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Would need to block it with the cloud

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No that wouldn't work either cause she acts first fml

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen Udongein Inaba

You are

Reisen Udongein Inaba - Lunar-Minded and Asynchronous Youkai Rabbit

.
You are aligned with

Incident Resolver

Abilities:

"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Make your target go insane. Redirect all of your targets actions to themselves for one night.
Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Shifting yourself out of tune with the rest of the world, you become completely untargetable and unable to act for one night

Megaphone-shaped Handgun

[Active][Night]

- You fire a strong soundwave at your target, preventing them from using any PTs for the next day and night

Lunar Refugee

[Passive]

- Your experience with evading Lunarians has made you quite stealthy. Actions that target you, other than kills, will fail as if roleblocked

ESP waves

[Passive]

- Moon rabbits can send "ESP waves" and recieve them with their ears, forming a sort of psychic network. During the night enter a hood with Eternity Larva
(Canon moon rabbits: Reisen Udongein Inaba, Reisen , Seiran, Ringo)

Win Condition:

Eliminate all

Incident Causers

If you want a claimable active instead of having the ESP waves be your active, especially since we know how ESP waves should be formatted with Clownpiece flipping

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No that wouldn't work either cause she acts first fml

Wait no that's only the Redirector spellcard lets friggin go

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'm gonna drop a bunch of different Reisen Flavors for your active and spellcards, pick and chose which ones you want (You want two spellcards and one active, your passives are already the Ascetic and the Seiran hood)

Megaphone-shaped Handgun

[Active][Night]

- You fire a strong soundwave at your target, preventing them from using any PTs for the next day and night

Eirin's Apprentice

[Active][Night (Can also be flavor'd as day)]

- Eirin sends you off to do errands, Visitor/Checker/Fruit Vendor that gives medicine all work as flavor (Though Fruit Vendor isn't really claimable for obvious reasons)

Lunatic Gaze "Illusion Seeker"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Delay all actions on a target until the next phase (Canon flavor: When the waves are out of sync, it won't actually hit you. It's just a hallucination. The real problem is when she suddenly puts the wavelengths back-- wait, you knew that already? Oh.)

Loafing Sign "Idling Wave"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Prevents the target from getting any feedback from actions that phase (Cop wouldn't get any results, Koishi wouldn't know if her target got attacked when using her spellcard, etc.)(Canon flavor: A wavelength that's too long for the average human to perceive. The hallucinations appear to be frozen in midair.)

Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Commute, can also be flavored to make someone else Commute instead (Canon flavor: Just by shifting things out of tune by a hair's breadth, the whole world vanishes. Because it's out of tune, the true full moon is invisible. ...Does that make it a new moon?)

"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Make your target go insane. Redirect all of your targets actions to themselves for one night. Any other insanity flavored actions would also work for this spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

can also be flavored to make someone else Commute instead

Oh right, this is called an Alien

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Just a heads up since you claimed the hood: If you're ever asked about the specific wording you're gonna want to use language like "I passively added/created a new hood" similar to how Clownpieces ability works since hoods that exist at the start of the game are treated as a hood passive for all members and Larva flipped without a hood passive

[Kaguya Houraisan]

btw you are ok to claim Alien without getting mobbed for Sanae being roleblocked since I got Sanae to come to the conclusion she was spellcard blocked but her active still went through

[Kaguya Houraisan]

3878/3880 if you need the reference for the spellcard block

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I’m still fine to claim reisen no?

Yes

You're claiming something like

Lunatic Gaze "Illusion Seeker"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Delay actions for a phase
Spread Sign "Invisible Full Moon"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Alien

Megaphone-shaped Handgun

[Active][Night]

- Prevent use of PTs for a day and night

Lunar Refugee

[Passive]

- Ascetic

ESP waves

[Passive]

- At the end of the day, you will create a hood with Eternity Larva. This hood lasts until the end of the night

as your flavor I'm guessing?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Gun Sign "Lunatic Gun"

[Spellcard][Day/Night]

- Back in the day when you were a soldier, you were supplied a gun, and you've kept it ever since. You can load the gun with one of the spellcard you have copied from your

Ex-Infiltrator

or

Dango Salesgirl

ability, and use it on the target during the phase specified by the spellcard.

Needs to be something that can be used on you, and you didn't specify what positions your spellcards are in

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No because you're adding Larva to the hood yourself so Ascetic never triggers

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@Yukarin does a Watcher see who visits if their target is targetted by Heian Dark Clouds?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen if you town it up a bit today I think you can live, lets both try to make it to tomorrow

[Kaguya Houraisan]

hmm, thoughts on having you hammer the first person to hit E-1 today?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Playerlist:

1. Tenshi Hinanawi -

   Tenshi Hinanawi
   
   
2. Aya Shameimaru -
   Aya Shameimaru
   • Wind Sign "Wind God's Fan" [Spellcard/Night] Deflector, resolves first
     
     
   • [Spellcard] Make all PTs found with PT Cop ability public
     
   • [Active/Night] Combined Watcher PT Cop
     
   • [Passive] Stealthy
3. Yuuka Kazami -
   Yuuka Kazami
   • [Spellcard]
     Contagious Watcher
     
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Self-watch
     
   • [Passive] Notifies anyone visiting her that she's part of the scum team
4. Kaguya Houraisan -
   Wakasagihime
   • [Spellcard/Night] - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled, get 3 fish total when combined with singing
     
     
   • [Spellcard/Night] - Doctor a single person per two fish
     
     
   • [Active/Night] - Sing to get 1 fish (Resolves before my spellcards)
     
   • [Passive] - Invisible to action investigatives
     
   • [Passive] - In a hood with Daiyousei
5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
   Marisa Kirisame
   • Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Juggernaut, can't be recharged
     
     
   • Magic Sign "Stardust Reverie" [Spellcard] Enter a hood, if it's temporary make it permanent
     
     
   • Burglary [Active/Night] Flavor Cop with extra effects
     
   • [Passive] Mod Confirmed to be
     Marisa Kirisame
6. Koishi Komeiji -
   Youmu Konpaku
   • [Spellcard/Night] Change Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard target, both Koishi and new target are bulletproof for the night, informed if anyone attacked Koishi or new target
     
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard, target gets Strongwilled if Koishi dies at night, target immune to all scum abilities
     
   • [Passive] Immune to Day Abilities, including vote multipliers
7. Eternity Larva -

   Seiran
   
   
8. Ichirin Kumoi -

   Medicine Melancholy
   
   
9. Daiyousei -
   Daiyousei
   • [Spellcard] Checker
     
     
   • [Spellcard] Visitor
     
   • [Spellcard] Unknown
     
   • [Active/Night] Redirect all actions targeting her to her target, if her target dies she dies
     
   • [Passive] Come back to life after dying
     
   • Misty Lake Resident [Passive] In a Hood with Kaguya Houraisan
10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Flandre Scarlet
    • [Spellcard] Some kind of Guilty generator
      
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
      
    • [Active] Disable Passive
      
    • Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] You are in a neighborhood with Sanae Kochiya
11. Clownpiece -

    Toyosatomimi no Miko
    
    
12. Reisen Udongein Inaba -
    Reisen Udongein Inaba
    • [Spellcard] Cause target to self-target
      
    • [Spellcard] Offset actions on target by a phase
      
    • [Active] Shut down PT
      
    • [Passive] Ascetic
      
    • [Passive] In a neighborhood with Eternity Larva at night
13. Sanae Kochiya -

    Patchouli Knowledge

---

Canon Yuuka Spellcards:

• "Flower Shooting"
  
• "Fantastic Spring Flowers"
  
• Flower Sign "Blossoming of Gensokyo"
  
• Fantasy "The Beauties of Nature" - 花鳥風月 (kachou fuugetsu, lit. 'flowers, birds, wind, moon'): an idiom referring to the beautiful aspects of nature. 嘯風弄月 (shoufuu rougetsu, lit. 'howling wind, marvelous moon'): an idiom referring to acts of enjoying the beauty of nature, in particular reciting poetry while wind howls through pine trees, or while marveling at the sight of the Moon. (NOTE: This isn't canon flavoring, just the explanation of the translation that's on the wiki. The original Japanese of the spellcard name is 幻想「花鳥風月、嘯風弄月」)

Canon Flandre Spellcards

• Taboo "Cranberry Trap"
  1. Multiple invisible enemies run along the edges of the screen, shooting either purple bullets that always converge in similar ways near the middle, or blue bullets that aim at the player. Flandre moves all around the screen meanwhile.
• Taboo "Lävatein"
  1. Flandre uses her Lævateinn, which looks like a laser, to leave lanes of bullets as a trail. She spins it or moves along the upper edge of the screen while she aims it downwards. While spinning, she has a large open space behind herself.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Saw it at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, stopping-short type
     Reference Level: ★
     A Spell Card where she brandishes a big sword of flame. No, "big sword" isn't right. It's a totally oversized sword.
     Swingin' this thing around indoors can't be safe.
     It might be too big even for a vampire, 'cause she can't swing it freely very fast. As such, dodgin' the tip of the sword is simple.
     The scary thing about this isn't the sword itself, though. It's the fire bullets that come from swinging it.
• Taboo "Four of a Kind"
  1. Flandre creates 3 copies of herself. They all make circles of random red bullets around themselves. One will shoot eight lanes of large yellow bullets around her in the same way each time, one shoots a 7-way of large green bullets aimed at the player, and the "real" Flandre shoots three circles of large blue bullets that alternate spaces. If you deal enough damage to a "clone", it will explode in a similar effect to a fairy and drop a big P item.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Saw it at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, slave-type
     Clone Level: ★★★
     A Spell Card where she clones herself, then shoots bullets wherever she wants. I feel like if I could clone myself, I could do just about anythin'... but I still want slaves, too.
• Taboo "Kagome, Kagome"
  1. Green square lines are slowly formed from the edges of the screen, while Flandre shoots large, yellow bullets, sometimes in random directions, others aimed at the player. Whenever she shoots a yellow bullet, the green pattern will dissolve and deform in the direction the bullet was shot.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Saw it at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, theatrical type
     Reference Level: ★
     Danmaku is what's standing right in front of your back. A Spell Card that surrounds you with danmaku.
     Then she fires big bullets that smash through the bullets surrounding you. A rare type of Spell Card where the bullets interfere with each other.
     In practice, if the bullets interfere with each other, there's a concern that it'll become impossible to control and stop functioning as a game. But Flandre over here doesn't care about that sorta thing at all. That's the little sister of madness for ya.
     It ain't very strong, by the way. Was she holdin' back?
• Taboo "Maze of Love"
  1. Flandre places herself in the middle of the screen and begins making a spiral of bullets with cuts in-between, along with layered half-circles of bullets shot in the opposite direction of the holes in the spiral.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Movement stress type of love
     Reference Level: ★
     A Spell Card that forces a specific method of dodging. You just have to circle around Flandre, but there's a trap: you actually have to move opposite to the direction the danmaku rotates.
     You're forced to spin in the opposite direction from the other person. "Maze of Love" is a perfect name for it.
• Forbidden Barrage "Starbow Break"
  1. Flandre flies around as rainbow-colored bullets jump up from a random position and fall down, forming rainbow-like arcs. There are 4 waves, one higher in the middle, one that rises towards the right, one rising to the right, again on the middle, and the pattern repeats.
• Forbidden Barrage "Catadioptric"
  1. Flandre shoots large blue bullets that leave trails of smaller bullets behind, similar to Remilia's "Scarlet Shoot", which will then bounce off of walls until they go through the bottom of the screen. She will shoot a 5-way up, go closer to the right wall and shoot a 5-way towards it, then do the same with the left wall, and shoot 5 individual large bullets upwards as she goes back to the right, and she will repeat the pattern slightly lower each time. Flandre takes a slight recoil with each shot she does.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Saw it at the Scarlet Devil Mansion
     Reference Level: ★★★
     A Spell Card that uses the walls. Reflecting shots backed by brute force.
     They really are sisters. Remilia has similar danmaku, but Flandre's uses too many finicky little tricks.
• Forbidden Barrage "Clock that Ticks Away the Past"
  1. Flandre will stay in the top middle, shooting aimed red bullets, as a pattern of 4 lasers that spin around a center go from left to right in multiple orders.
• Secret Barrage "And Then Will There Be None?"
  1. Timeout spell card. Flandre will disappear as she is replaced by invisible enemies that follow the player around, leaving trails of blue bullets that expand. Afterwards, square-like shapes will be shot from the sides of the screen as they form shapes by bending over themselves. This last phase will repeat until the spell ends.
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Saw it at the Scarlet Devil Mansion, invisible slave-type
     Playing Alone Level: ★★★★★
     A Spell Card where "if I get hit, then there will be none."
     When your opponent disappears, you can't tell where you'll be attacked from. Fearsome.
     That's just how much evading danmaku relies on seeing your opponent, I suppose.
     I want her to teach me how to disappear, by the way.
• Q.E.D. "Ripples of 495 Years"
  1. Flandre will stay in the top middle, as multiple circles of bullets that bounce on walls produce themselves in random places around the screen and expand, with the speed and rate of appearance of the circles increasing with time passin and Flandre receiving damage.
• Taboo "Forbidden Fruit"
  1. While looking for news, I was suddenly attacked.
     A noiseless and irrational creeping fear.
     It is a good thing that feeling comes out in the photos...
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Forbidden move
     Reference Level: Forbidden move
     A super-high-density Spell Card. At this level, it isn't a game at all.
     This stuff's banned nowadays. Truly a forbidden fruit.
• Taboo "Forbidden Games"
  1. I was fairly sure vampires were weak to
     the cross symbol, but it doesn't seem like it.
     She just came out and played with it...
     
  2. User: Flandre Scarlet
     Notes: Nothin' but crosses
     Reference Level: ★
     A Spell Card that flings crosses en masse.
     Why crosses? 'Cause they have a lot at their house, apparently. Are they cross hunters, or did these belong to the humans that became their food?
• Scarlet Devil Sign "Bloody Catastrophe"
  - Duo spellcard with Remilia
  
• Scarlet Divine Sign "Catastrophe of Seventeen Articles"
  - Duo spellcard with Toyosatomimi no Miko
  
• Scarlet Star Sign "Superhuman Catastrophe Pilgrimage"
  - Duo spellcard with Byakuren
  
• Taboo "Reckless Bullet"
  
• Taboo "Cerberus Clipper"
  
• "Destroyer in the Palm of One's Hand"
  
• Scarlet Nihility

[Kaguya Houraisan]

So. We know Marisa isn't claiming a protective (Both because she said so and because protecting someone wouldn't be a guilty and also because a protective Flan kinda doesn't make sense). This means either a roleblock type thing or a tracker/watcher. If she's Watching Aya we need to Dark Clouds there, if she's roleblocking we need to have you roleblock back with Nightmare of Heiankyou

If Koishi is lying about being able to swap targets, and also doesn't have a spellcard that'd let her save Aya if she thinks she's rebinded to Aya then we don't need to worry about anything there since Icicle Fall would have roleblocked her Rebind so she'd still be bound to me. If she isn't lying then she needs to be roleblocked

We have one question left with Very Unfair and Border-line Rule-breaking Outside Contact and it's probably gonna have to go towards figuring out the night actions to take here. I'll go through the Flan spellcards in a bit more detail later to see what's likely

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@Yukari if Reisen uses Nightmare of Heiankyo and the factional kill on the same night she's targeted by a Roleblocker does the kill go through? What about targeted by a Jailkeeper

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Marisa could also be

another

redirector with something like Forbidden Barrage "Catadioptric" but in that case there's no problem with just killing Aya on the spot

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If she's not a roleblock-type role and not a cop then the optimal play might actually be to just no-kill and let her shoot her shot. If she was a cop she'd probably just come out with it and ask Koishi to be on her when Koishi claimed to be a regular BG instead of Fixed right?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Spellcards ready:

• Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" (Refreshed N2)
  
• Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" (Never used)

If we know that Koishi isn't on Aya I think

• Kaguya Refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"
  
• Reisen uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"
  
• Reisen kills Aya

is optimal right? Alternatively "Heian Dark Clouds" on Aya might also be good just not sure what Marisa is using yet.
Yuuka's Contagious Watcher was probably Flower Sign "Blossoming of Gensokyo", Fantasy "The Beauties of Nature" is probably going to be some sort of tracker and you get around those with Unidentified
Dai probably doesn't have anything useful anymore
Koishi I have no idea what her last spellcard would be but with a properly worded question shouldn't be a problem
Kagerou only has Burglary left
Aya's spellcard isn't relevant and she's Watching Marisa

[Kaguya Houraisan]

[Kaguya Houraisan]

• Secret Barrage "And then there will be none" - You can't actually hit Flan during this spellcard and instead just have to wait out the timer. Commute/Become untargetable?
  
• Forbidden Barrage "Catadioptric" - Flan basically banks shots into the wall. Some sort of redirect?
  
• Taboo "Four of a Kind" - Flan clones herself. 1/4 chance of targeting her? Act 4 times in one night?
  
• Q.E.D. "Ripples of 495 Years" - Similar effect as Catadioptric?

If we're talking iconic spellcards then I'd definitely expect her to have Taboo "Cranberry Trap" or Taboo "Lävatein" too as something we need to figure out, just not sure how that'd be flavored

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Though based off the spellcards here I think the guilty machine might be another redirect like Aya. Her other spellcard is supposedly provable too

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I think she's gotta have Taboo "Lävatein", that's like her thing. Any ideas how you'd translate an oversized flaming sword into a Mafia game?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Oh hmm I just realized it doesn't actually matter what Marisa can do.
If she investigates by targeting you she gets hit with Ascetic
If she guilties by blocking you she gets hit with Ascetic
If she guilties by redirecting then Aya kill
If she guilties by being a Watcher she'd still see you not on Koishi

I'll wait for Yukari to get back with the double roleblock scenario but I think Ascetic mode + Kill Aya is optimal after using a question to check if Koishi can stop the factional kill on Aya tonight if Reisen performs the kill while using the Ascetic Spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

tsk

I kinda hoped to let Aya get NK'd and then reveal my role but

Yeah, I do have some sort of ability which can generate guilties and/or innos. Not saying what it is. Thankfully,

Reisen thoughts on what this might be?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'm like 90% sure that Marisa's "Guilty Generator" is some sort of redirect and am willing to bet the game on it. I'm also 90% sure that Koishi lied about lying about the bind thing and that she's still bound to me

There's only two points of failure here imo:

1. Not knowing if Marisa is redirecting Aya or Koishi
   
2. Not knowing if Koishi's rebind was another Aya situation where it resolves before roleblocks

Yukari is it legal to use Very Unfair and Border-line Rule-breaking Outside Contact to create a conditional nightkill based on the answer with something like "Is Marisa targeting Aya with a spellcard?" that resolves one second before the deadline and a set of night actions for if it's a positive or a negative result (e.g. if positive then Dark Clouds Marisa and Kill Marisa, if negative then Nightmare of Heiankyou and Kill Aya)

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I unironically think no-killing and sleeping is optimal here if we can't verify Marisa's target

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Reisen Udongein Inaba Refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

For now.

Thinking about it, if we assume Marisa is a redirector of some kind then the only real risks tonight are Yuuka tracking me somewhere if I try to roleblock and Aya seeing you not be on Koishi

Aya's supposedly on Marisa

[Kaguya Houraisan]

or that, just a question of if Yukari will answer the question in time. If "Do Actions A if Positive Result and Actions B if Negative Result" is legal then that'd work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I probably won't be available at the deadline though so you'd have to do it

If Marisa is targeting Aya

Reisen kills Marisa
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Marisa
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"

If Marisa is not targeting Aya

Reisen kills Aya
Kaguya refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

This look good to you?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually

If Marisa is targeting Aya

Reisen kills Marisa
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Marisa
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Yuuka

If Marisa is not targeting Aya

Reisen kills Aya
Kaguya refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Yuuka

Would deny the Track

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Marisa is not targeting Aya

Reisen kills Aya
Kaguya refreshes Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Yuuka

Though in that case since the Ascetic is known being able to roleblock might be more important

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Alternatively: If Aya is being targeted you wanna just kill Koishi and claim Spellblocked?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Wait nvm wouldn't work, Ascetic claim

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yukari if I roleblock a Deflector does the redirect go through?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If I can roleblock the redirect then the question should be if Koishi can prevent the factional kill on Aya tonight. Aya's redirect went first explicitly and that's probably cause she's Fast^TM in canon. Flandre probably? doesn't have that element so this should be mildly safer

[Kaguya Houraisan]

went first explicitly

As in: it's written in the spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If the Redirect can be blocked and Koishi can't stop the factional kill on Aya

Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Marisa
Kaguya refreshes Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Kaguya
Reisen kills Aya

If Marisa is smart enough to redirect Aya targets onto me then we take an L because the roleblock fails and I get shot, otherwise we're in a pretty good position

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Guh, no guts no glory (Side note, not having Perfect Freeze available cause of disabled Motivation is absolutely tragic cause it'd remove all the guesswork)

Very Unfair and Border-line Rule-breaking Outside Contact: Can Koishi prevent the factional kill on Aya tonight?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Marisa is smart enough to redirect Aya targets onto me then we take an L because the roleblock fails and I get shot, otherwise we're in a pretty good position

Oh actually this is some next level stuff because Koishi would still be bound to me and would take the hit instead

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Koishi dies you can claim spellblocked and argue scum can refresh spellcards since Kagerou claimed Master Spark can't be refreshed and no one has claimed the ability to refresh other peoples spellcards. If Aya dies we're golden

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Koishi can stop the kill then killing Kagerou might actually be the kind of wacky play that can work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Koishi can stop the kill then killing Kagerou might actually be the kind of wacky play that can work

On second thought this is kinda dumb and just killing Dai is way safer if Aya's off limits

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Koishi cannot stop the factional kill on Aya

Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Marisa
Kaguya refreshes Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Kaguya
Reisen kills Aya

If Koishi can stop the factional kill on Aya

Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Daiyousei
Reisen kills Daiyousei
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Koishi can stop the factional kill on Aya

Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Kaguya
Reisen kills Daiyousei
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"

I'm probably getting checked tonight so better to have the deniability

[Kaguya Houraisan]

This game lmao

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Reisen kills Aya
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Kaguya
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Kagerou
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"

Fast Night

[Kaguya Houraisan]

In ELo or MELo, any vote by an anti-town faction declared as a hammer will be treated as such, even if the said vote wouldn't be enough to hammer the wagon.

• For an example, if town A votes town B in 4 Town : 3 Mafia ELo, any mafia can endgame by voting town B and declaring the vote as a hammer, even if the vote is physically an E-2 vote.

Just a reminder in case I'm not around to quickhammer

[Kaguya Houraisan]

The funny part is that I'm pretty sure that happened cause Yuuka used her spellcards already

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually just in case of Elite Bodyguard

Night Actions

Reisen kills Koishi
Reisen uses Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds" on Koishi
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Kagerou
Kaguya refreshes Ominous Clouds "Heian Dark Clouds"

[Kaguya Houraisan]

They said non consecutive but idk if that’s true.

Non-consec self-watcher is her active, Marisa's roleblock only works if you still have at least 1 spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Actually, revealing dark clouds kinda makes the endgame really complicated. Is no-killing viable here?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yeah I think revealing Dark Clouds might lose us the game and we just have to take the risk that Koishi isn't a super Elite BG that doesn't die when killing

Night Actions

Kaguya kills Aya
Kaguya uses Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" on Kagerou
Reisen refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"
Reisen uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

I specifically need to make the kill so that me being the roleblocker becomes public information if Koishi is an Elite Bodyguard

If I flip to Elite BG it'll be Aya/Yuuka/Reisen/Kagerou, that should be very playable for you

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Points to a Yuuka/Kaguya world, especially because the only reason for me to be making the kill over Yuuka is to play around your self-target. You can claim self-targetizer on Yuuka in that case

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Night Actions

Kaguya kills Aya
Reisen refreshes "Nightmare of Heiankyou"
Reisen uses "Nightmare of Heiankyou"

In that case I want to be able to pretend Icicle fall was used earlier so no roleblock on Kagerou

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Oh excellent, looks like Kagerou Burglarized Yuuka then

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Don't claim self-targetizer on Yuuka until we know she didn't self-watch. She should have had it up night 4 since she self-watched n2

[Kaguya Houraisan]

fr fr, just make the hammer rule autohammer

[Kaguya Houraisan]

@koichi

I am Reisen udongein inaba

I have

Lunatic Gaze "Illusion Seeker"
Like Tenshi I’ll push actions on my target back to the next phase

And

"Lunatic Red Eyes"
I make someone go insane and their actions will self target that night

My active is mega phone shaped handgun and it will shut down a pt until the following day after its use

My passives are lunar refugee (ascetic) and esp waves. I send out waves and if they get picked up a hood gets made with anyone else that has moon ties. Which ended up just being other bunnies.

Good morning!

Posting rates are slowing down, are we waiting on anyone or can we move on with the day

I think we're waiting on Reisen-San.

MANIFESTING
MY
DESTINY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clownpiece-Chan! Your destiny is great but why did you do it today when there's literally less than 0.1% of you getting voted?

Kinda think Yuuka as scum would be positioned well enough to not have to go through the effort of rereading a whole bunch of yesterday including rvs. But also I don't really see her getting any solid conclusions from her reread so far (top of page 138), and I'm not sure what's the point then. Still a townlean but I'd not resist a vote on them I guess.

Confused. I would consider myself vulnerable but I also need to take it slow here due to irl challenges. No pushing myself, no stressing.

I disagree! I don't think it's likely that you'd be voted today.

Sorry if I’m holding the game up. I wanted to start catching up from day start and go back to reread eod but it doesn’t really make sense in that order it seems.

Can I get a tldr of why sanae is scum since larva flipped scum?

Also I was briefly in a neighborhood with larva last night, I assumed it was a lunarian thing since it had to do with the moon but Kaguya wasn’t there and I think kaguya is lunarian?

I haven’t used anything, my passives have popped and that’s about it.

So I have 2 pieces of information, kind of. Kaguya targeted themselves last night. Doesn’t make them not!scum it just makes them not the one performing nightkills.

This also means either scum can’t roleblock anymore OR kaguya is the roleblocker and blocked themselves.

I haven’t looked back on the claims list but I think it can be narrowed down since multiple spell cards can’t be used the same night. Actives can be used with spell cards though.

Mech mommy tell me what it means.

New Reisen here's your current fakeclaim:
N1: No action, passively created a hood with Eternity Larva
N2: No action
N3: Lunatic Gaze "Illusion Seeker" on Koishi Komeiji
N4: "Lunatic Red Eyes" on Kaguya Houraisan

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Reisen, who did you target with your active each night and does it work on scum PT's or only neighborhoods?

They won’t be able to use their scum pt if I target them. I haven’t targeted anyone with anything yet I’m fully loaded.

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Reisen Udongein Inaba

You are

Reisen Udongein Inaba - Lunar-Minded and Asynchronous Youkai Rabbit

.
You are aligned with

Incident Resolver

Abilities:

Lunatic Gaze "Illusion Seeker"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Push actions on your target to the next phase (So if they get shot they die the next night instead, if they get copped the investigation doesn't come in until the next night, etc.)
"Lunatic Red Eyes"

[Spellcard][Night]

- Redirect all of your targets actions to themselves for one night

Megaphone-shaped Handgun

[Active][Night]

- Prevent your target from using PTs for a day and night (This includes scum PTs)

Lunar Refugee

[Passive]

- Ascetic

ESP waves

[Passive]

- At the end of the day, you will create a hood with Eternity Larva. This hood lasts until the end of the night

Win Condition:

Eliminate all

Incident Causers

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No one asked but we literally didn’t talk, that’s my fault I wasn’t around for most of the eod or night phase.

Contents of the fake Larva hood

[Kaguya Houraisan]

292 onwards in the scum pt is all the mech stuff

[Kaguya Houraisan]

You're not at risk of getting limmed today and I don't need any immediate help so take your time getting caught up

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Nah this is fine, I'm gonna let you deepwolf. Also as a reminder in case I'm not around

In ELo or MELo, any vote by an anti-town faction declared as a hammer will be treated as such, even if the said vote wouldn't be enough to hammer the wagon.

• For an example, if town A votes town B in 4 Town : 3 Mafia ELo, any mafia can endgame by voting town B and declaring the vote as a hammer, even if the vote is physically an E-2 vote.

Just a reminder in case I'm not around to quickhammer

[Kaguya Houraisan]

if aya has locked in the solve and is just trying to give marching orders to kagerou we're kinda screwed huh

She could do that even without Kagerou present

[Kaguya Houraisan]

A replacement would be ideal because they'd get feedback that Yuuka is scum from her passive and might vote there again

[Kaguya Houraisan]

You around to hammer if needed? I'm busy for the next 3 hours and wont be able to post

[Kaguya Houraisan]

nah bussing me there was necessary, gl