Newbie 2040 - The First Dark Age: End!

[Battle Mage]

so we're left with: battle mage with anyone and syryana with donki

so then honestly from my pov the simplest thing to do is make sure i'm solid in my donki read and if i decide yes, just vote bm because if syryana/donki isn't a thing than battle mage has to be scum

and then i probably die and committing to af full solve is no longer my problem
(although it's probably ad)

eh, would it help if i made the case again for why Donkii is scum? Not tonight, but if that's literally what this game hinges on, I'll make time tomorrow.

[skitter30]

reread your own 407

[skitter30]

sure, if you'd like

[Battle Mage]

well its upto you. i sorta feel like you're flipping me anyway, so i'd rather not waste time and energy if we're just going through the motions.

[skitter30]

We

pretty much had the solve nailed on Day 2.

We

said it was 2 of (Pig-Donkii-Syryana).

i'm also p sure i never agreed to that pool ^

[Battle Mage]

i'm baffled we're losing this game despite having a townblock yesterday which turned out to all be town, and having a remaining scumpool of 2 today who turned out to both be scum.

[skitter30]

well its upto you. i sorta feel like you're flipping me anyway, so i'd rather not waste time and energy if we're just going through the motions.

fair enough
the next thing i need to do is read donki and i'll probably decide then
i try to keep a very open mind in lylo in case i've missed something, and will read everything and take it into acct (even if i won't necessarily comment on it), so if you wanna do that i'm happy to read it, but i can't promise it'll change my mind
and if you'd rather not, that's fair too

[Battle Mage]

We

pretty much had the solve nailed on Day 2.

We

said it was 2 of (Pig-Donkii-Syryana).

i'm also p sure i never agreed to that pool ^

lol well i think me, MWNM and AD more or less did

[Battle Mage]

well its upto you. i sorta feel like you're flipping me anyway, so i'd rather not waste time and energy if we're just going through the motions.

fair enough
the next thing i need to do is read donki and i'll probably decide then
i try to keep a very open mind in lylo in case i've missed something, and will read everything and take it into acct (even if i won't necessarily comment on it), so if you wanna do that i'm happy to read it, but i can't promise it'll change my mind
and if you'd rather not, that's fair too

the problem is, i need to persuade not just you, but also the AD replacement.

[Battle Mage]

Tonight will be my one correct guess on the night kill and its someone I can't protect anyway.

lol i'm glad you protected me dude

Spoiler:

but next time, claimed PR

Okay, quickly, as my head is not terrible right now, but it's still hurting.

Basically, the town block of AD

, BM, Skitter, and myself means that 3 people are in the scum pool, so, really, if we elim in the pool of donkihott, Syryana and the other one, then it doesn't matter to me what order we do it in.

yeah i basically agree with this.

see ^ you're basically fine with just removing him from the pool altogether and idk why your read is *that* strong?

looks like i said "i basically agree" which is consistent with everything i've said, and

doesn't

imply i had a super strong townread on AD. The bolding above is yours.

[skitter30]

i know. my point is that you're agreeing with just voting through donki/syryana/pig and idk why you've taken ad out at that point
like if your'e saying you're fine with voting through the other three, you're functionally saying you're confident enough on town-ad that you'd be willing to bet the game on them, and idk why you have that opinion at that time

[Battle Mage]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

[Battle Mage]

i know. my point is that you're agreeing with just voting through donki/syryana/pig and idk why you've taken ad out at that point
like if your'e saying you're fine with voting through the other three, you're functionally saying you're confident enough on town-ad that you'd be willing to bet the game on them, and idk why you have that opinion at that time

thats not true though, and you can see as much from what i've said today. Having a elim-pool, is not akin to "betting the game" on anything. I'm capable of having townreads and scumreads, ranking them, but still giving all of them the benefit of the doubt. At no point had I committed to locktowning AD, because frankly that would be stupid.

After the whole case I made on Syryana today, I don't understand why this is the only thing you're focussing on. If you take a step back and think about this, I believe you can make the right decision.

[Battle Mage]

also it just occurred to me that if you get this right and vote Syryana, AD's replacement should also do so - as they would know it has to be either a Skitter-BM or Donkii-Syryana team.

[skitter30]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

nice
i would feel super bad ruining that streak if ur town

[skitter30]

bm i'm p sure you know what i'm getting at wrt 407 but you're trying to sort of redefine what you were trying to do there in retrospect so it doesn't look like you were townreading ad that strongly

[Syryana]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

nice
i would feel super bad ruining that streak if ur town

Pretty sure that's why he said it

[Battle Mage]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

nice
i would feel super bad ruining that streak if ur town

i AM town!

for goodness sake Skitter, please go with me on this, so we can actually win. Syryana has sheeped you for this exact situation and you're falling for it!

[Battle Mage]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

nice
i would feel super bad ruining that streak if ur town

Pretty sure that's why he said it

lol no i said it because i can't brag about it after it's gone

[Syryana]

for the stat junkies out there, I'm on a run of 30 consecutive games without being mis-elimmed.

nice
i would feel super bad ruining that streak if ur town

Pretty sure that's why he said it

lol no i said it because i can't brag about it after it's gone

Can't be mislimmed if you're scum.

[skitter30]

i had a two year streak that i actually lost in one of the more recent newbies i played.
i deeply empathize

[Syryana]

i AM town!

for goodness sake Skitter, please go with me on this, so we can actually win. Syryana has sheeped you for this exact situation and you're falling for it!

You are utterly shameless after all the lambasting you've done of me for pocketing skitter.

[skitter30]

but ultimately i'm kinda more interested in 407 and why ad was taken out of your pool then cuz i still don't ~entirely~ feel like i got a good answer for that

[skitter30]

Umlaut (5): skitter30, AuroraDash, RLotus, ManWithNoName, Battle Mage

so i'm silly, when i quoted 327 on the prior page, i was thinking, 'gosh if ad is scum, it means both scum are probably on this wagon', and i thought syryana was hammer here, not ad, which is what prompted me then saying that i think syryana/ad might be a thing

but no, ti's actually battle mage who's on it

[Battle Mage]

bm i'm p sure you know what i'm getting at wrt 407 but you're trying to sort of redefine what you were trying to do there in retrospect so it doesn't look like you were townreading ad that strongly

Skitter, look, please just read the game carefully. Read Donkii and Syryana's interaction. Read my assessment of Syryana today. If you still wanna flip me after that, then I'm cool with it.

On the previous 2 days, you voted and then regretted voting for wagons which resulted in mis-elims. Today would be a good time to second guess your existing presumption and avoid a 3rd consecutive mis-elim. All you need to do here, is make 1 right call and trust me, and then we can cruise to victory.