Newbie 2053 | Primroses | Game Over

[Lunar Martian]

VOTE: Dew
Both this and the Qspaces wagons are at E-2 now.

[Dew]

I think im gonna vote Qspaces for now just to get the ball rolling as Im the only one that hasn't voted yet and some other people are going with this too. Im going to bed now so I may look more into it later but wanted to this before going to bed.
I think im gonna vote Qspaces for now just to get the ball rolling as Im the only one that hasn't voted yet and some other people are going with this too. Im going to bed now so I may look more into it later but wanted to this before going to bed.

VOTE: Qspaces

[Dew]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

[Lunar Martian]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

At the time I didn't have a very strong reason, just wanted to see what would happen when I tied the wagons up. Now it got very interesting and I'm very happy with my vote.

E-1 btw.

[Enchant]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

Just how. Did you copypaste it?

Don't put people on E-1, unless you want them dead.

[Wu Wei]

I'm going to stick with my vote on Dew for now. They haven't done anything really but talk about how they don't know what to do, and they appeared 3 minutes after getting a 3rd vote on to push the competing wagon to E-1. We need more substantive contributions if we want to win as they game goes on.

[Wu Wei]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

Just how. Did you copypaste it?

Don't put people on E-1, unless you want them dead.

Also, I'm a bit interested in the bolded. I'm not really sure how

part

of a post can duplicate without simply the

entire

post simply double-posting. Looks a lot like a C&P.

[Lunar Martian]

Wu Wei what do you think the implications of copy paste are? Like: so what if it is?

[Wu Wei]

If it's a C&P, then it was copied from somewhere. Dew doesn't strike me as the type to keep a notes PT or to take notes in their role PM. The one thing keeping me from being dead-set on it being copied from a mafia PT is that I feel the vote itself would be included in the C&P and that wasn't posted twice. It's not that big a deal for me, not nearly as much as the inactivity and reappearing the moment her wagon reached E-2 to push the competing wagon to E-1.

[Lunar Martian]

Wu Wei have you played on another site prior to this?

[Enchant]

When doublepost, you get two posts with same message. This is one post with two messages. So, how? Did you write it twice or just copied?

[Battle Mage]

I think im gonna vote Qspaces for now just to get the ball rolling as Im the only one that hasn't voted yet and some other people are going with this too. Im going to bed now so I may look more into it later but wanted to this before going to bed.
I think im gonna vote Qspaces for now just to get the ball rolling as Im the only one that hasn't voted yet and some other people are going with this too. Im going to bed now so I may look more into it later but wanted to this before going to bed.

VOTE: Qspaces

I'm skeptical of the casual tone here - you're really putting them at -1 "just to get the ball rolling"? Nothing to do with them being the biggest alternative wagon?

[WhemeStar]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

At the time I didn't have a very strong reason, just wanted to see what would happen when I tied the wagons up. Now it got very interesting and I'm very happy with my vote.

E-1 btw.

Do you have any reads?

[Lunar Martian]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

At the time I didn't have a very strong reason, just wanted to see what would happen when I tied the wagons up. Now it got very interesting and I'm very happy with my vote.

E-1 btw.

Do you have any reads?

You are quoting a post where I'm stating a read, but I have others, too.

[endlessdark]

Dew and Qspaces are unlikely partners, given Dew's vote there, bringing Qspaces to E-1.

[endlessdark]

Dew and Qspaces are unlikely partners, given Dew's vote there, bringing Qspaces to E-1.

Especially given that they're both approaching elimination. I feel like it'd be extremely unlikely that if you're (Dew in this case) approaching elimination you'd start bussing your partner (Qspaces) who is also getting votes.

[endlessdark]

I'm going to stick with my vote on Dew for now. They haven't done anything really but talk about how they don't know what to do, and they appeared 3 minutes after getting a 3rd vote on to push the competing wagon to E-1. We need more substantive contributions if we want to win as they game goes on.

Dew is new and I think in her situation it sounds right not to know what to do on day 1. This combined with your nitpicking of the double text in her post makes me suspect you're trying to push an easy elimination on her. I can't see double text being relevant and can easily be explained by her copying message in case she edits but then changes her mind and pastes back (or anything similar).

[endlessdark]

The fact that Dew didn't try to make up a reason for voting Qspaces, but instead simply said she doesn't know what to do and joined the bandwagon is not a maf behavior, I think. That is not to say it is helpful to town what she's doing, but doesn't sound disingenuous.

[endlessdark]

some thoughts:

On balance, Wu Wei is probably the towniest player. I don't necessarily think he stands his ground as strongly as he did, as scum, especially after Prism repped out. Seems a relatively high-risk, low-reward play as scum anyway (just put them in the spotlight, no chance to buddy someone, not really protecting anyone).
Endlessdark is basically in the same place as me on suspects.
Enchant is quiet but that's more their town meta than scum meta.
Dew feels fairly genuine.
Cook is very quiet here, wouldn't be surprised if he was scum.
I'm very wary of the 2 other SE slots (Wheme and Lunar) - their interaction doesn't make a lot of sense and stands out.

So I'm gonna say 2 scum within: Wheme, Lunar, Cook and Qspaces

Sorry for spamming many posts. I just wanted to say I like this sharing of current thoughts. I am a little bit wary of townreading Battle Mage for the simple reason that he's experienced and I expect that he can fool me, but so far his behavior feels protown.

[Dew]

Looking back to it that wasn't the best idea. First about the double message: yes I did copy my message as I was on mobile, and I didn't want to lose my message. I wanted to look how you could vote and searched the voting prompt, pasted my message and I didn't realize it was already there. I understand that it can be weird, but it is also interesting how easily people jump on that. Also looking back at my post my wording wasn't the best either with "Just getting the ball rolling" I just wanted to vote as well as I didn't do that yet. Qspaces had one of the biggest wagons and I could see why she would be pretty sus, so I thought "why not vote her just for  now" but I didn't realize voting now already has  significantly more impact than before especially with the E-1 so that wasn't the best idea and Isn't helping me or town at all. I also want to say that I didn't see Lunar Martians post before replying. I hope Qspaces comes online again so I can look more into that.

[Enchant]

Eh? What you mean by jumping, i just wondered how you did that.

Mafia have habit to carefully read what they read, so these mistakes rare.

[Dew]

Again not the right words, but I just thought it was "cool" to see people speculate about what could've happened. So I agree that isn't jumping.

[WhemeStar]

Anyone fine with a lunar wagon

[Battle Mage]

Dew and Qspaces are unlikely partners, given Dew's vote there, bringing Qspaces to E-1.

Especially given that they're both approaching elimination. I feel like it'd be extremely unlikely that if you're (Dew in this case) approaching elimination you'd start bussing your partner (Qspaces) who is also getting votes.

Yes I agree, defo not partners.

I'm going to stick with my vote on Dew for now. They haven't done anything really but talk about how they don't know what to do, and they appeared 3 minutes after getting a 3rd vote on to push the competing wagon to E-1. We need more substantive contributions if we want to win as they game goes on.

Dew is new and I think in her situation it sounds right not to know what to do on day 1. This combined with your nitpicking of the double text in her post makes me suspect you're trying to push an easy elimination on her. I can't see double text being relevant and can easily be explained by her copying message in case she edits but then changes her mind and pastes back (or anything similar).

maybe but you'd be surprised how often stuff like that happens when copy-pasting from scum chats. I know one player who did the same mistake 3 times in 1 game as scum.

The fact that Dew didn't try to make up a reason for voting Qspaces, but instead simply said she doesn't know what to do and joined the bandwagon is not a maf behavior, I think. That is not to say it is helpful to town what she's doing, but doesn't sound disingenuous.

Hmm I'd have said they sounded pretty disingenuous when claiming that the vote was "just getting the ball rolling" etc.

Looking back to it that wasn't the best idea. First about the double message: yes I did copy my message as I was on mobile, and I didn't want to lose my message. I wanted to look how you could vote and searched the voting prompt, pasted my message and I didn't realize it was already there. I understand that it can be weird, but it is also interesting how easily people jump on that. Also looking back at my post my wording wasn't the best either with "Just getting the ball rolling" I just wanted to vote as well as I didn't do that yet. Qspaces had one of the biggest wagons and I could see why she would be pretty sus, so I thought "why not vote her just for  now" but I didn't realize voting now already has  significantly more impact than before especially with the E-1 so that wasn't the best idea and Isn't helping me or town at all. I also want to say that I didn't see Lunar Martians post before replying. I hope Qspaces comes online again so I can look more into that.

In recognition of all of this...no unvote?

VOTE: Dew

Not a lock but on balance I prefer this to Qspaces. I think that's E-1.

[Lunar Martian]

Anyone fine with a lunar wagon

You don't like either of the current wagons? Why not?