In post 364, furtiveglance wrote:If everyone wants me out I will go, just make sure to say E-1 and intent to hammer before hammering.
Hopefully people will listen to me when I flip. My current thoughts are probably TTT/Eyes as a pair, but if Lukewarm is town they are playing very strangely. STOP TUNNELING.
This getting ridiculous beyond my limited ability to shut up about it. The reason I townread you was you saying the same thing about E-1 and intent in 130, which to me sounded like you were crumbing PR. It may have went unnoticed once, but I don't think repeating it will also be unnoticed. So, straight up: Are you or are you not a PR? I obviously do not wish you to full claim at this point unless you do have useful information, but if I was mafia you would have been the night kill for sure.
In post 363, MalcolmTucker wrote:Apologies if this is the way you always play, and others may feel like it's a perfectly legitimate strategy
Starting with town reads is a valid way to play. town blocks can win games. But if you play that way, it is probably good to explain your town reads well
Well, I explained the one on furtive. What do you think?
In my mind it goes without saying that people usually announce E-1 and are considered scummy if they don't. Intent is less so obvious but TTTT is in the game and has been giving signs of intent to punish loll hammerers. So what reason makes a player highlight that they want to be given space between being put @E-1 and being hammered in the way furtive did not once but twice already. And what does "hopefully you'll listen to me when I'm dead" hint? Is a dead townie always right? Or is it more likely furtive is once again hinting being a PR of some sort and that they have info. Like they tracked someone who didn't go anywhere or jailed someone so they didn't do the kill. I know both of these would only be considered soft clears at best because we do have 2 living mafia players but everybody is starting to question how I think and my motives and this is what you get when you try to learn everything immaturely.
I am claiming Town Tracker - sorry if I should not have claimed. The other power role should not out, but please protect me tonight.
Hopefully everyone's analysis will be helped by this new information.
My thinking was that I would probably have to reveal later today when voted, or if not then mafia might kill me tonight after my 'softing'. I wanted the other power role to be able to protect me.
In post 382, furtiveglance wrote:Ok. This neither incriminates nor clears anyone.
Lukewarm did not visit anyone night 1.
It is not a perfect clear, but a no visit is a semi-clear in this set up.
Because tracker can never exist in a double goon set up, most scum teams will have their pr do their ability, and their goon do the kill - so both scum normally move in column A or B.
But... Why me... That really does not help us here :/
You weren't my strongest townread. You became my strongest townread after I tracked you and got no result. I thought mafia would send someone that wouldn't get tracked, i.e. someone who was widely townread. At the time you and Malcolm were my (and everyone's) strongest townreads. I chose you because you were wrong about ofmercia and wrong about me, so I suspected you.
Hold on a second. I mean from his reaction I do believe Lukewarm didn't perform an action last night, but did you get he visited no one or did you get no result on him? This clearly makes all the difference because no result means you were roleblocked
In post 392, TTTT wrote:still like my vote on Eyes
that PR fishing was gross
I'll have more to say either tonight or tomorrow
stuck on mobile now
Yeah I was unsure if I was missing something here but why the absolute desperation to unveil a player in a role? It's useful to have someone in the clear, but is also very useful info for mafia too. It seems like too blatant a move to be mafia from Eyes but could also be a gambit from someone who's under pressure to do all they can to help their partner going forward if they fear elimination in this turn.
I am thinking about if this means I should hard flip my entire reads list.
Furtive is an un'cced pr, and eyes spotted the day one soft, and the didn't kill him. If they are both town, then both scum are in
[TTTT, Malcolm, Val, Shobun]
Which brings me back to
In post 311, Lukewarm wrote:My earlier "I'll need to think about the kill" was me going through the same thoughts that just happened in thread with furtive and tttt - do I need to second guess my town reads right now, if none of me or my town reads were killed
A scum team with tttt and/or Malcolm makes the clidd kill make more sense.
I still have not re-read this game. Should happen tomorrow. But my intent now is to reread assuming both furtive and eyes as town
