Open 844 – Cults With Guns [Endgame]

[Korina]

IC not revealing makes sense lmao, idk why people are arguing against this

[Korina]

Literally -> if the ic cannot reveal, we have one cult confirmed and that means we know who to kill once both alpha cultists are dead

[Korina]

Which, once again, we should never kill anyone we know was culted until both alpha cultists are dead

[Andante]

tbh I don't think IC should out here that's just asking to get culted

[wavemode]

alright I gotta be frank, this feels like being in lylo on day 1

where you're hesitant because it's day 1 and there's no information and then you're also double hesitant because you know if you lim wrong the game is probably over

at the same time though I've realized the situation is probably not going to change, the cultists have no incentive to rock the boat and can probably mostly just lurk and win

VOTE: fua as they fit the category of, just coasting by, you know/? and it is indeed strange that they had zero comment on the fact that the vig claimed they would be shot tonight

ummmm but yeah most of the game is kind of just null to me

90% of the conversation thus far has been about setup and, sure, while town often do talk about setup, scum also commonly talk about setup just to seem townie

[fua]

Lol, what? How am I coasting by compared to other people, especially on page 3?

Obviously I care if I actually get shot. Literally everyone does. But taking a callout of a target at the start of page 2 seriously and getting defensive over it is just as strange if not moreso. If it was past 26 posts into the game and closer to the end of the phase then I would take it more seriously.

[fua]

Enchant is just objectively correct here.

[wavemode]

sure but, not even asking him why? not addressing it at all? why is the possibility of looking defensive more worrisome to you than the possibility of a townie getting shot and us basically automatically losing?

[fua]

Why me = Fry me. Miselimming me will lose us the game just as much as being shot will. Why would any townie want to look scummy?

[fua]

At worst it just boils down to playstyle differences. I will do this regardless of alignment and you can check my past games to prove it.

[wavemode]

Why would any townie want to look scummy?

you must have a very low opinion of the town if you believe we will scumread the mere act of engaging with someone regarding why they want to shoot you

sounds more like paranoia

[fua]

You would be VERY surprised.

[wavemode]

okay, let's say for the sake of argument that questioning stephen is a bad move

why are you fine with questioning me? shouldn't you also be worried that this will be seen as defensiveness?

[fua]

I have been a part of many games where early defensiveness is treated as scum-indicative. Why would I suddenly switch up my general playstyle?

And I didn’t have two votes on me beforehand. This is a dumb comparison to make. Votes = Pressure.

[wavemode]

a vig's gun is not pressure??

[fua]

Not when it’s based off of a single post at the start of page two without any reasoning or a vote behind it.. It’s like you’re conveniently forgetting about everything I’m saying at this point.

[fua]

This is literally basic mafia to me. Dwlee lives and dies by ‘Why me = Fry me’, and I’ve played with him a lot.

[fua]

If people really believe that I am not justified in thinking this despite past games then you might as well lim me. But I have a town PM and doing so will lose us the game.

[wavemode]

okay so help me understand the why me fry me principle

is 2 votes the limit? why me fry me at 0 votes, why me fry me at 1 vote, but at 2 votes we gotta start arguing our case. is that the rationale?

[fua]

IC not revealing makes sense lmao, idk why people are arguing against this

I wasn’t here until 5. I have a busy schedule.

[fua]

I don’t know why that quoted. Whoops.

[fua]

Anyway, I don’t think I need to explain to you why me being at 3 or 4 votes is a bad thing compared to 0.

[wavemode]

yeah but you're not, you're at 2 votes

so what I'm asking is, does "why me = fry me" only apply when you are at 0 votes? then, once you have a certain amount of votes it no longer applies and you start defending yourself? is that how it works?

and if so, how many votes does it take for you to abandon the principle? 1? 2?

[fua]

“Zero votes is one thing, but why are you defending yourselft at

E-3?

Don’t you realize that those two are the same thing? I get to decide when defending yourself is scummy.”

That’s literally how you sound right now. Do I really need to spell this shit out for you?

[fua]

Unless you think I should have defended myself between the first vote and yours, when I literally didn’t have my phone on me. Which is also an incredibly dumb argument.