Newbie 2125 - Postgame

[Alianna]

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KatyKimFanClub (E-2): Bazuf

Not Voting (4): KatyKimFanClub, SzmarzLeek, ChicagoTypewriter, JasonWazza

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-07-09 12:04:43).

[KatyKimFanClub]

Random thoughts:

I think Bazuf is town for putting Dragon at E-1 on page 4. Don't think they would bus with Dragon being roleblocker w/ some deterministic losses at that point.

I remember Dragon/CT's first few pages seeming forced.

Why did Egix townread me and his replacement not?

iavh giving up is meant to get the game into a 3 way lylo wake up sheeple

Going to go over the wagon mechanics of D1 again.

[JasonWazza]

I think Bazuf is town for putting Dragon at E-1 on page 4. Don't think they would bus with Dragon being roleblocker w/ some deterministic losses at that point.

That's not why Bazuf is town, he is town because he continued to be on the slot consistently, even when end of day was arriving and Happy was going to be the lim.

Why did Egix townread me and his replacement not?

Because we are different people, so basically the same reason that anyone has different reads to anyone else.

iavh giving up is meant to get the game into a 3 way lylo wake up sheeple

Or Happy gave up regardless, your argument basically requires that he isn't the type of person to just give up in general.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Currently leaning CT for last scum but I need to keep reading.

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Yeah, so I guess we can wait for KKFC thoughts, then Jason, then I can share what myself and BB thought? You fine with that guys?

I'm fine with that.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Alright.

I think Bazuf is hard town. He is almost confirmed to me.
Between CT and Jason, I'm 75/25 CT.

[JasonWazza]

Actually before we get Leek's thoughts, CT i don't honestly think we have a clean version of what you think, obviously KFC is Choice 1, who is Choice 2?

Because as far as i can tell from what you posted yesterday, it's basically 100% KFC and 0% Bazuf/Jason (at least from my reading of your post 766)

[JasonWazza]

it's basically 100% KFC and 0% Bazuf/Jason (at least from my reading of your post 766)

This is probably a bit of a misrep, but my point is more, we have no idea where your thoughts are, we should get them.

[KatyKimFanClub]

CT should give his thoughts before Bazuf and then the masons.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Also I understand there's really no leverage play to be made here but I'm not going to vote until you guys explain your gameplan in the 3 way no clear tomorrow if I flip green.

[JasonWazza]

Bazuf has given his thoughts previously. (same with me, hence why i was confused by Leek asking for my thoughts)

[JasonWazza]

Bazuf thoughts;

For me, my scum team is happy/KFC.
So PoE, my townreads are CT/Jason.

If I had to choose my top townread, I'd say Jason.

in what order you'd lim the three other players, Bazuf?

happy -> KKFC -> Chicago

My thoughts;

Lim Happy;

IF scum, Trust Bazuf town, Lim {KFC/CT} win game.

IF Town, Lim KFC, If KFC flips Roleblocker Lim Bazuf, If KFC flips Goon Lim CT.

Note that with the above, the below no longer has a 10% chance on Bazuf.

I mean for me I think I'm here at this point;

Town
Bazuf: 10%
CT: 40%
KFC: 65%
Happy: 85%
Scum

If i had to put actual odds on them (it adds up to 200% because there are 2 scum).

[Bazuf]

Right now, we really need to focus on what is important for town, and it definitely is not mine/Jason/Chicago opinions.

I think it is pretty clear that KKFC will be limed today.
I truly believe this will be gameover and a town win.
But, if by any chance it is not, then Leek will be killed during the night, and tomorrow we'll have a EoL between Bazuf/Jason/Chicago.

So today, I really only want to hear what KKFC thinks and what Leek thinks.
Their opinions are the most important ones today, and I hope that Jason/Chicago just leave their thoughts for tomorrow...

KKFC please share your thoughts.
Only after that, please Leek share your thoughts.

[SzmarzLeek]

So BB was strongly convinced it's Jason.

I was convinced it's KKFC.

We cleared Bazuf and Chicago because of their game.

[SzmarzLeek]

That's the mason summary.

[JasonWazza]

Legitmately how the hell did you get to CT is clear?

[Bazuf]

Leek, let's imagine that KKFC flips town.
Do you also think the other scum is Jason?

[JasonWazza]

That seems to be what they are going with Bazuf.

[JasonWazza]

Best part is, this has to have all come at the end of the day, or the Mason's were basically lying (Town can lie, especially given they are confirmed town) in the main thread all day, because BB had me basically fully ruled out, so I really want to hear what this reasoning is.

I can imagine part of it, i just can't figure how you rule out CT enough to get that it has to be me after KFC.

[JasonWazza]

Why i shouldn't be ruled out regarding happy is me trying to direct the lim off Happy and onto BB (day 1), which i'll grant, but had the Mason's and Scum not immediately chosen to flip Camel, we were likely having to turn back around onto Happy, and had we got a claim from BB we would have immediately limmed Happy that day.

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: KatyKimFanClub

For when Leek thinks they have given enough information, and are ready to proceed.

[Bazuf]

UNVOTE:

I really want to hear from KKFC too, before we move forward with the day...

[SzmarzLeek]

What the heck Jason? Why would you accuse me of lying? I swear BB was more convinced to you being scum than KKFC. Latest messages on mason thread.

For me it was KKFC -> Jason. (lims we should)

For BB it was mostly Jason and then maybe KKFC.

[SzmarzLeek]

I think the most important thing is convincing KKFC and Bazuf that it's not Chicago.

Dragon even wrote an analysis on Chicago d1. Please check it out.

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Actually before we get Leek's thoughts, CT i don't honestly think we have a clean version of what you think, obviously KFC is Choice 1, who is Choice 2?

I think you are at this point, honestly. My analysis of iamveryhappy/Bazuf is that it wasn't a likely pairing given Bazuf's voting history; however JasonWazza/iamveryhappy ultimately has little in the way of definitive objections. However, this is assuming that KKFC flips green.