In post 122, Meuh wrote:
Nolim is lame and I'd rather not do it. I agree with Dannflor that even if mechanically optimal in an ideal world, the effect it'd have on the gamestate would ultimately give us less info and it'd be at best neutral overall (plus we waste a week of time waiting around)
i don't agree that we don't get info from no limming d1. like, we already got info and reads and stuff. i guess i'm ok with limming though
In post 154, Aristeia wrote:
I think everyone voting for no-lim understands that it entails eliminating me/klick as the first pair gone.
I guess if it's important we can also do some kind of psuedo-voting?
like every player may vote for any number of other players. at the end of seven days we commit to eliminating the two highest voted players as in everyone will pair up with each other except for them and they will necessarily be cast into the cold.
i'm really not interested in limming you/klick, i'd much prefer the second idea
I don't think we're actually going to get two players that a majority of players are satisfied with eliminating simultaneously and is also decently accurate. It's hard enough getting one accurate elimination
In post 219, Ydrasse wrote:
aristeia i think is probably town but also probably has to die w klick because of the dance game meta (imo when someone insists on being killed w someone etc you have to force their hand there because it’s really easy to get away with it because mafia would value their life more, i do this a lot.) i’d be maybe amenable to not killing her though because i like her push and getting receipts etc. it’s a problem
what if we all agree not to townread her for the valuing her life reason and instead townread her for other reasons
VOTE: ydrasse i got a gut read from when i was lying awake in bed and those reads are op
In post 224, Ydrasse wrote:
i have a tendency to think that people when they’re mafia wouldn’t do things that i think are bad or poor play like getting really flustered or giving weird answers to things that could be easily avoided but it’s often too much leeway and it backfires
ok but in your heart do you think klick plays like this as scum
i am in fact townreading her for other reasons so we can agree to do that yes
i have to weight that against asking to die though which makes things annoying
In post 224, Ydrasse wrote:
i have a tendency to think that people when they’re mafia wouldn’t do things that i think are bad or poor play like getting really flustered or giving weird answers to things that could be easily avoided but it’s often too much leeway and it backfires
ok but in your heart do you think klick plays like this as scum
yes i think it’s possible
i think sometimes you get caught out early and never recover or sometimes you’re just weird posting
In post 260, Ydrasse wrote:
i have to weight that against asking to die though which makes things annoying
i guess i'm saying i think it should be null, even that is cautious cause i think town does that kind of thing more often anyway. but w/e
cakez tone is a bit off but that could be explained by him feeling shitty. strangely he doesn't feel freeflowing to me like klick said but he also doesn't seem like he's trying to control the agenda
aristeia i think is probably town but also probably has to die w klick because of the dance game meta (imo when someone insists on being killed w someone etc you have to force their hand there because it’s really easy to get away with it because mafia would value their life more, i do this a lot.) i’d be maybe amenable to not killing her though because i like her push and getting receipts etc. it’s a problem
klick i think is being weird i think that it would be pretty simple to answer a lot of things esp early on but he reads as evasive to me. maybe it’s because he’s been in the defensive for almost this entire hame but from experience he’s more open and responsive
i think dann is being pretty gracious as town in a way he wouldn’t be probably as mafia i think this is a read i could rescind because it’s early enough to pivot away later but meh
infinity should maybe be yellow in the same way drew is yellow (but townlean bc he had a little progression on ari that i kind of like) but i didn’t like their post and vote and then back off
everyone else is yellow because i don’t have much thoughts there
this is not the real reason ydra is scum but look at all the hedging that's here. and especially leaving open trying to kill ari/klick i don't like.
In post 260, Ydrasse wrote:
i have to weight that against asking to die though which makes things annoying
i guess i'm saying i think it should be null, even that is cautious cause i think town does that kind of thing more often anyway. but w/e
cakez tone is a bit off but that could be explained by him feeling shitty. strangely he doesn't feel freeflowing to me like klick said but he also doesn't seem like he's trying to control the agenda
drew and yessiree i got some townvibes from
i think that asking to die is different in dance games, from my perspective i ask to die as mafia a lot because like who would want that mafia wouldn’t they just have a lot of faith in reads and if you don’t like… treat that assertion as dead serious it is very easy for mafia to get away with it without much punishment. i feel like it gets caught eventually but there’s merit into making people commit to their statements. maybe it’s different because of this specific setup but i don’t think it changes much
aristeia i think is probably town but also probably has to die w klick because of the dance game meta (imo when someone insists on being killed w someone etc you have to force their hand there because it’s really easy to get away with it because mafia would value their life more, i do this a lot.) i’d be maybe amenable to not killing her though because i like her push and getting receipts etc. it’s a problem
klick i think is being weird i think that it would be pretty simple to answer a lot of things esp early on but he reads as evasive to me. maybe it’s because he’s been in the defensive for almost this entire hame but from experience he’s more open and responsive
i think dann is being pretty gracious as town in a way he wouldn’t be probably as mafia i think this is a read i could rescind because it’s early enough to pivot away later but meh
infinity should maybe be yellow in the same way drew is yellow (but townlean bc he had a little progression on ari that i kind of like) but i didn’t like their post and vote and then back off
everyone else is yellow because i don’t have much thoughts there
this is not the real reason ydra is scum but look at all the hedging that's here. and especially leaving open trying to kill ari/klick i don't like.
also hi ydra how are you
okay why am i mafia then
+ why is my read on you specifically not factoring into your argument right now because i think that if you were town you’d be more likely to pursue reading me through that or engaging me there than through my reads on other ppl
you're mafia because my gut said so at 2 am lying in bed. im dead serious :)
i think you should probably know i flipflop a lot but it's been a while since we last played and i don't wanna be that person who is like "you should know i'm town here" which i maybe have been in the past.
really starting to think i am not built to play this game anymore because that statement made me more angry than it should have so i’ll come back in a day or later tonight
