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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:04 am

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Newbie 1793


Welcome to Newbie 1793! The Mafia has infiltrated your town and killed the mayor!
It's up to you to discover the identities of the bad guys and bring peace back to your home!



Moderator:
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Player List:


1)
Almost50
Jaegybomb, Dapocalyptic

2)
camn
[IC]
3)
EchoVision
[SE]
4)
Havo

5)
Mulch

6)
RadiantCowbells
Apitoxin

7)
Seungsik
ImAdra

8)
Toto
BlackVoid, Trendall
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9)
WhyMafia


[SE] denotes a Semi-Experienced player.
[IC] denotes a Inexperience Challenged player. This player is here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.

Spoiler: Living Players
1) camn
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2) Toto
Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Dead Players
1) RadiantCowbells
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Lynched Day 1.

2) Almost50
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Killed Night 1.

3) Seungsik
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Lynched Day 2.

4) EchoVision
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Killed Night 2.

5) Havo
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Lynched Day 3.

6) WhyMafia
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Killed Night 3.

7) Mulch
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Lynched Day 4.

Game Links:

Day 1 | Night 1
Day 2 | Night 2
Day 3 | Night 3
Day 4
Game Over
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:05 am

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Game Rules

All Forum Rules and Guidelines should be followed, along with the following rules.


Game Timeline
  • Day phases will last two weeks.
  • Night phases will last two days.
General Rules
  • Do not quote your role PM or any other PM/QT communication from the mod.
  • Do not contact any player in or outside of the game about the game.
  • Do not use encrypted or hard-to-see text (including "invisible" text, text below the 50% text size option, or text hidden via BBCode (not including spoilered text)).
  • Do not edit or delete posts in this thread. If you made a formatting mistake, I will fix it for you (if it doesn't change the content of the post).
Activity
  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 48 hours, other players may request a prod of that player.
  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 72 hours and another player hasn't made a request, I will prod that player.
  • If a player is prodded, that player has 24 hours to make an in-game post before a replacement will be found.
  • If a player receives multiple prods and/or prod-dodges excessively, that player will be subject to a force-replace.
  • If you are going to be absent for a specific period of time, please let me know ahead of time!
Votes and Lynching
  • Votes must be in the format of VOTE: Player Name or
    VOTE: Player Name
    . Abbreviations, missing punctuation, and misspellings will be accepted as long as it is obvious to me who is being voted for. If I perceive it as a vote, it will count as a vote.
  • Unvotes are not necessary to change a vote.
  • A player will be lynched if a majority of the players have voted for that player.
  • You may vote for a
    No Lynch
    . If a majority of players vote for a No Lynch, the game will proceed to Night without a lynch.
  • All living players, including the lynchee, may continue to post until I lock the thread.
  • Once I have posted your death scene, you may not post ("bah" posts are not allowed).
Behavior
  • Harassment of an individual player is NOT permitted. While this is a competitive game, no personal attacks will be tolerated.
  • Always play to your win condition.
  • Do not discuss this game anywhere else with anyone else unless your role allows you to.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:05 am

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Game Setup


This game is using the standard Newbie Game setup, Matrix6. One row or one column will be randomly chosen from the table below and the remaining six roles will be filled in by Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies as appropriate to create a total of 2 Mafia-aligned players and 7 Town-aligned players.

ABC
1
Town Jailkeeper
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
2
Mafia Roleblocker
Town Cop
Town Doctor
3
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Mafia Goon
Town Tracker


Please note:
  • The Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the actions are submitted.
  • In applicable situations, a Roleblocker's action will resolve before a Jailkeeper's action.
  • In applicable situations, a Mafia Roleblocker has the option of submitting both roleblocks and kills, even when the Mafia Goon is still alive.
Spoiler: List of Role PMs
Role PM wrote:You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may sleep.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Cop
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may investigate one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will receive a result in the form of
    You believe [target] to be [Guilty/Not Guilty]
    . If you did not successfully investigate someone, you will receive
    No Result
    .
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Doctor
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may protect one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. You may not target yourself. You will not be informed as to the result of your protection.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may place one player in Jail by sending me the name of your target via PM. They will be protected from kills and prevented from using their own ability, if they have one. You cannot target yourself.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Tracker
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may track one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will be told if that player targeted anyone and whom that player targeted.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • You will survive the first kill attempt made on you during the Night. You will not be informed if and when this happens.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
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with your partner, name (
role
).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by sending posting on the Mafia thread or sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner during pre-game and the Night phases in this thread.
Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
with your partner, name (
Mafia Goon
).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • Individually, you may roleblock one player by sending me the name of your target via the Mafia thread or by PM. You may both roleblock and kill during the same Night.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by posting on the Mafia thread or by sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner during pre-game and the Night phases in this thread.
Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:32 am

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Update:
We have 5/9 players confirmed. The remaining 4 players have another 24 hours to confirm before I will find replacements for them.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:58 pm

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With 9/9 confirmed, the game can begin!


Vote Count 1.0


No Vote (9):
Apitoxin, camn, EchoVision, Havo, Jaegybomb, Mulch, Seungsik, Trendall, WhyMafia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Monday, May 15, at 4:00 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2017-05-15 16:00:00).
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 12:09 am

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hi everyone

it's 9 pm here , see yall tomorrow!
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 12:48 am

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Finally lol
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 2:41 am

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Alright. Let's get this party started.

Vote: Apitoxin
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 2:43 am

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vote: Apitoxin
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 2:44 am

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There we go.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 3:08 am

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Helloooo
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 3:10 am

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VOTE: Mulch
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 3:11 am

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In post 11, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: Mulch
Was impatient so must be scum
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 3:34 am

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In post 12, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 11, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: Mulch
Was impatient so must be scum
Sounds like you could be onto something.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 5:27 am

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VOTE: Trendall

The extra o's are obviously a distraction tactic!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 8:56 am

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I have never played with anyone you :/

Hope we have a nice
active
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 9:13 am

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In post 15, WhyMafia wrote:I have never played with anyone you :/

Hope we have a nice
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We can only hope. Already too slow for me tho. :(
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 9:17 am

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Ok, so let's get started. I am mostly a newbie. I hail from another site (one that is not very friendly XD), and I played around 4 games there, but that is the extent of my epxerience. I won as scum my first game by bussing my opponent (there were bigger games there with about 4 scum), but I also played some games as town later. As town I was policy lynched twice in 2 games because people disliked my reads, and because I tended to death tunnel my highest scumread. Lo and behold, the reads ended up becoming right later in the game. I'm not sure how much it applies to this site, but over there I basically scumread by seeing who seemed forced in their writing. And who seems natural. Seems simple enough, right? In any case, this game I'll try to lay off the death tunneling, but I am in general a very confident player and just make sure that dosen't alarm you.

It DOES bother me that we have had so few posts so far. I tend to be active, and the fact that only a few people have posted in a days time is a little weird. With 14 games I guess we have enough time to do whatever we want...

One of the misteps that I see towns doing is deciding on a lynch target too late, and then scum having an excuse not to switch because "any lynch is better than no lynch." Lots of times people say they can get "associations" or other random shit like that from lynches, which I understand, but I also think that at least in the bigger game it was almost as likely if not more for scum to be on each other's wagon. Of course, with only 9 players now, it is most likely going to be differnet.

I saw here that town can often do a cheaty sort of strategy called the BP claim strat? I'm down with exploting the rules (some people think it is against their moral code or whatever I see from games I spectated) and I am wondering people's opinions on that.

One main thing that I see town doing is scumreading people for defensiveness, ssomething that apparently happens on this site too. I can only speak to myself, but I was MORE defensive when I rolled town X2 than if I rolled scum. I honestly think defensivesness is not allignment indicative.

Anyway, this has been a long ramble.
looking forward to a good game!
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 9:18 am

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Oh, and one question- how do you do the white formatting for voting? I feel like an idiot but I can't figure it out
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 9:46 am

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VOTE: Seungisik Let's get this party started
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 10:14 am

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I had a look in the Completed Newbie Games forum earlier, and went back to like Newbie 01, Newbie 02 etc. - it's quite funny, most of the games are like 3-4 pages long.

I haven't played forum mafia for quite a few years now, I played a couple of games on this forum before, but then I think I quit because I had the flu and somebody was annoying me. I play a lot on 'EpicMafia' though.

What is 'BP claim strategy'? Is that just having the bulletproof person claim D1? If so I don't see how that is exploiting the rules, it is more just like...a strategy. It is fine with me but as far as I can work out, all it is really doing is informing the mafia who not to waste a night kill on. Maybe someone can explain it to me?

There were some things about jailkeeper that I wasn't sure on, but I've forgotten what they were now, and I'm sure I'll figure them out as we go along.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 10:29 am

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In post 16, Havo wrote:
In post 15, WhyMafia wrote:I have never played with anyone you :/

Hope we have a nice
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We can only hope. Already too slow for me tho. :(
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 10:31 am

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@Mulch
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This is the BP claim strat
In post 8, TesXX wrote:Let the games begin!
The best way to start off the game is to claim BP or not BP. This is because BP claims won't be taken as seriously if you claim it later in the game, like if it's lynch or lose or if you're about to get lynched. It's a stupid idea for scum to claim BP this early since there's no reason to already think they'll be lynched. In the rare case that scum claims bulletproof, then either the cop (if there is one) or the bulletproof (if there is one) should counterclaim. The doctor shouldn't counterclaim, but if the setup is Column C then the doctor will be the only one to counterclaim(we wait for counterclaims first). If there is no bulletproof claims, then the tracker (if there is one) should claim because they know there is a doctor.
I think that's about everything about the strategy.
We also start off with random votes, so VOTE: StealthyNoodle because there's no type of argument saying that name is townish.
Also
Not BP
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 10:32 am

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I'll start off
Not BP

This strategy doesn't really teach new players too well, but it is extremely beneficial for town.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 20, Trendall wrote:What is 'BP claim strategy'? Is that just having the bulletproof person claim D1? If so I don't see how that is exploiting the rules, it is more just like...a strategy. It is fine with me but as far as I can work out, all it is really doing is informing the mafia who not to waste a night kill on. Maybe someone can explain it to me?
It basically makes them confirmed town, which means they tend to become lazy. It also isn't good for new players bc it distracts from typical scum hunting

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