Newbie 2039 | Endgame

[Sirius9121]

Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Newbie 2039. I am your host, Sirius9121.

The game is in

Day 4

.

Moderated by Sirius9121, backed up by Pookythemagicalbear

Players

Salsabil Faria

was eliminated Night 3, They were a

Vanilla Town.

wiyvern

was eliminated Night 2. They were a

Town Mason.

Birefringence

was eliminated Day 1, They were a

Mafia Goon.

Hank Spankems
Zurel
Frank Lucas

was eliminated Day 3, They were a

Vanilla Town.

Flavor Leaf (SE)
Trendall (SE)

was eliminated Day 2, They were a

Vanilla Town.

Tayl0r Swift (SE)

was eliminated Night 1. They were a

Town Mason.

A · next to their name means they have not confirmed. An asterisk means they have received a prod.

Spoiler: Votecounter Settings

Living Players

Hank Spankems
Salsabil Faria
Zurel
Frank Lucas
Flavor Leaf

Dead Players

Birefringence
Trendall
wiyvern
Tayl0r Swift

Links

Day 1: Post #4
Night 1: Post #177
Day 2: Post #178
Day 3: Post #390
Day 4: Post #424

Deadline

2020-11-25 21:00:00 8.00

[Sirius9121]

Rules

Definitely not stolen from Plotinus.

important bit

• Day: Day 1: 10 days, Day 2+: 7 days, Night: 48 hours.
  
• Majority eliminations
  
• 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
  
• Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  
• I have some unusual rules about tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
  
• Don’t be a dick

1. Follow all site rules.
   
   
2. Mod colour
   – My mod colour is
   #800080 or Purple
   ; don't use it.
   
3. Behaviour
   - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.
   
4. Don't talk about ongoing games
   - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
   
5. Tiny text
   - is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
   
6. Provable randomness
   - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
   
7. Claiming scum
   - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
   
8. Cryptography
   - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
   
9. Confirmation
   - You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
   
10. Days
    - Days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements or sudden events such as modkills.
    
11. Activity
    - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
    
12. Vacation/Limited Access
    If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
    V/LA
    in bold in the thread like this: [
    b]

    @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday

    [
    /b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
    
13. Prodging
    - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
    
14. Quoting
    - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
    
15. Voting
    - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Sirius9121 or
    Vote: Sirius9121
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
    v]Sirius9121[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]Sirius9121[
    /uv] to unvote.
    
16. Elimination
    - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
    
17. Twilight
    - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
    
18. Night
    - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
    
19. Action submissions
    - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
    
20. Notes PT
    - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
    
21. Play to win
    - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

[Sirius9121]

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times, and Mafia Power Roles are able to use their role ability and the factional kill in the same night.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that MASON2 is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is ]here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[Sirius9121]

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[Sirius9121]

All role PMs have been sent out! We will start in (expired on 2020-11-05 22:00:00) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.

As of 2020-11-04 14:34:00 +8, [7/9] Players have confirmed.

With 8 confirmations, the game begins.

[Zurel]

Hello everyone.

VOTE: wiyvern

Here is to hoping you will be active this game.

[Frank Lucas]

Good morning all.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hello everyone
Hi wiyvern, Zurel and Trendall.... we meet again

[Salsabil Faria]

Hello everyone.

VOTE: wiyvern

Here is to hoping you will be active this game.

lol!

[Salsabil Faria]

Good morning all.

Morning Lucas

[Zurel]

Hello everyone
Hi wiyvern, Zurel and Trendall.... we meet again

Hello Salsabil. We may well be playing all the five newbie games together, lol.

Say, is it okay if I call you Faria? Salsabil is a tad long but I don't want to call you Salsa.

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: frank
only scum dont have avatars

[wiyvern]

Hello everyone!

[Birefringence]

Hi everyone!

VOTE: Salsabill Faria

For triple posting.

[Trendall]

Hello everybody

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey, everybody.

I know one of the SE’s, and that is all. I guess I’ll do the stereotypical “what is your experience with Mafia?” Post.

[Zurel]

Hey, everybody.

I know one of the SE’s, and that is all. I guess I’ll do the stereotypical “what is your experience with Mafia?” Post.

Not much. I used to play many years ago but even then, I was not the most enthusiastic player. I think I couldn't have more than a total of 15 games under my belt.

My game before this was my first game in a long time.

[Zurel]

VOTE: frank
only scum dont have avatars

Hah, what do you know? Now Frank has gotten himself an avatar.

[Birefringence]

Hey, everybody.

I know one of the SE’s, and that is all. I guess I’ll do the stereotypical “what is your experience with Mafia?” Post.

Nothing recent. I used to play now and then on another site awhile back, but the site went down last year and I haven't played since.

[Flavor Leaf]

Awesome. Hope we can have a fun game. I like to know previous experience of newer players in newbies, because sometimes people know mafia really well, just new to the site. Helps me see if they’re genuine or not.

[Flavor Leaf]

Asking also allows for types of early game play other than RVS.

[Hank Spankems]

Hey Hey, People

Seems the party has started without me.
That said, being on time is so awfully drab.

Whilst I've never played forum mafia, I am familiar with others of the genre.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Flavor leaf it would probably not be fair to the newbies if youre scum here, so why dont you just confess for us

[Frank Lucas]

This is my first game on the forum. I have read guides and tried to get a base knowledge of the game and meta beforehand, but I am still very new to the format and style.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hello everyone
Hi wiyvern, Zurel and Trendall.... we meet again

Hello Salsabil. We may well be playing all the five newbie games together, lol.

it'll be fun

Say, is it okay if I call you Faria? Salsabil is a tad long but I don't want to call you Salsa.

Of course, it's okay Zurel.... after all, it's a part of my name