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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 546, Syryana wrote:
In post 542, Battle Mage wrote:i AM town!

for goodness sake Skitter, please go with me on this, so we can actually win. Syryana has sheeped you for this exact situation and you're falling for it!
You are utterly shameless after all the lambasting you've done of me for pocketing skitter.
...how on earth is it shameless that i've consistently called you out for it, and continue to do so?? :lol:
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 509, skitter30 wrote:
In post 327, AuroraDash wrote:I think it's highly unlikely for both scum to be on the wagon.
hmmmmm
this, to clarify - if ad is scum i'm p sure both scum are on wagon
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 549, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 540, skitter30 wrote:bm i'm p sure you know what i'm getting at wrt but you're trying to sort of redefine what you were trying to do there in retrospect so it doesn't look like you were townreading ad that strongly
Skitter, look, please just read the game carefully. Read Donkii and Syryana's interaction. Read my assessment of Syryana today. If you still wanna flip me after that, then I'm cool with it.

On the previous 2 days, you voted and then regretted voting for wagons which resulted in mis-elims. Today would be a good time to second guess your existing presumption and avoid a 3rd consecutive mis-elim. All you need to do here, is make 1 right call and trust me, and then we can cruise to victory.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:49 pm

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In post 549, Battle Mage wrote:Skitter, look, please just read the game carefully. Read Donkii and Syryana's interaction. Read my assessment of Syryana today. If you still wanna flip me after that, then I'm cool with it.

On the previous 2 days, you voted and then regretted voting for wagons which resulted in mis-elims. Today would be a good time to second guess your existing presumption and avoid a 3rd consecutive mis-elim. All you need to do here, is make 1 right call and trust me, and then we can cruise to victory.
yes, i saw that - i'm kinda susceptible to this sort of stuff so i have to like tune it out a bit, cuz you're both doing it :(
i appreciate that you're trying tho

i'm gonna reread donki at some point tonight and if i have further questions i will def let u know
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:50 pm

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Skitter, AD is not scum either! it is exactly Donkii and Syryana. I've been saying it was Donkii since Day 1!
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:51 pm

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In post 553, skitter30 wrote:
In post 549, Battle Mage wrote:Skitter, look, please just read the game carefully. Read Donkii and Syryana's interaction. Read my assessment of Syryana today. If you still wanna flip me after that, then I'm cool with it.

On the previous 2 days, you voted and then regretted voting for wagons which resulted in mis-elims. Today would be a good time to second guess your existing presumption and avoid a 3rd consecutive mis-elim. All you need to do here, is make 1 right call and trust me, and then we can cruise to victory.
yes, i saw that - i'm kinda susceptible to this sort of stuff so i have to like tune it out a bit, cuz you're both doing it :(
i appreciate that you're trying tho

i'm gonna reread donki at some point tonight and if i have further questions i will def let u know
can you please read the things i asked you to read though? rather than like, re-reading donkii, confbiasing into thinking he's town, and then flipping me? :facepalm:
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:52 pm

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sure! i can read it
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 550, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 546, Syryana wrote:
In post 542, Battle Mage wrote:i AM town!

for goodness sake Skitter, please go with me on this, so we can actually win. Syryana has sheeped you for this exact situation and you're falling for it!
You are utterly shameless after all the lambasting you've done of me for pocketing skitter.
...how on earth is it shameless that i've consistently called you out for it, and continue to do so?? :lol:
Lmao because you've buddied skitter harder in the last 5 pages than I have this entire game
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:53 pm

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In post 547, skitter30 wrote:but ultimately i'm kinda more interested in and why ad was taken out of your pool then cuz i still don't ~entirely~ feel like i got a good answer for that
but just saying that this is still kinda important to me ^
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 557, Syryana wrote:
In post 550, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 546, Syryana wrote:
In post 542, Battle Mage wrote:i AM town!

for goodness sake Skitter, please go with me on this, so we can actually win. Syryana has sheeped you for this exact situation and you're falling for it!
You are utterly shameless after all the lambasting you've done of me for pocketing skitter.
...how on earth is it shameless that i've consistently called you out for it, and continue to do so?? :lol:
Lmao because you've buddied skitter harder in the last 5 pages than I have this entire game
it's not buddying - i need her to vote you to have a chance of winning. :igmeou:
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:56 pm

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I'm not even mad mate it's a beautiful performance
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 558, skitter30 wrote:
In post 547, skitter30 wrote:but ultimately i'm kinda more interested in and why ad was taken out of your pool then cuz i still don't ~entirely~ feel like i got a good answer for that
but just saying that this is still kinda important to me ^
i've already said all i can say on it - sorry dude. I don't know why you're so hung up about it, but I've answered your question. I townleaned AD throughout the bulk of the game for making intelligent and thoughtful observations, which felt like genuine scumhunting. But ultimately you're reading too much into the pool as something which I would have rigidly and unquestionningly stuck with. This is not the case (and in fact, wouldn't have been the case even if I was scum, hence not alignment-indicative).

if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies? :lol:
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 560, Syryana wrote:I'm not even mad
mate
it's a beautiful performance
pfft, too late to try buddying me! :wink:
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:14 pm

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In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
You've been saying this whole time that I'm too good at this game for this, that, and the other. Example being not noticing you had noticed the crumb, off the top of my head. Why then, am I so ungodly bad that I let anything approaching that interaction hit the thread? With daytalk?
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 563, Syryana wrote:
In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
You've been saying this whole time that I'm too good at this game for this, that, and the other. Example being not noticing you had noticed the crumb, off the top of my head. Why then, am I so ungodly bad that I let anything approaching that interaction hit the thread? With daytalk?
lol it looked more like donkii did it, and by the time you reigned him in it was too late. so it doesnt make me think you are any less competent - nice try to guilt trip me though!
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 564, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 563, Syryana wrote:
In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
You've been saying this whole time that I'm too good at this game for this, that, and the other. Example being not noticing you had noticed the crumb, off the top of my head. Why then, am I so ungodly bad that I let anything approaching that interaction hit the thread? With daytalk?
lol it looked more like donkii did it, and by the time you reigned him in it was too late. so it doesnt make me think you are any less competent - nice try to guilt trip me though!
Pointing out an inconsistency in your argument is a guilt trip now, is it?
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:18 pm

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unrelated to anything, but last night i played a marathon game - 5 players, 3 town, 2 scum.

I dayvigged 1 scum on Day 1, leaving 4 players left. Somehow, I then got unanimously voted. :lol: no bueno
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:19 pm

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Battle Mage, this is an above game request, but remind me to ask you something about your play in the postgame.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:21 pm

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In post 565, Syryana wrote:
In post 564, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 563, Syryana wrote:
In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
You've been saying this whole time that I'm too good at this game for this, that, and the other. Example being not noticing you had noticed the crumb, off the top of my head. Why then, am I so ungodly bad that I let anything approaching that interaction hit the thread? With daytalk?
lol it looked more like donkii did it, and by the time you reigned him in it was too late. so it doesnt make me think you are any less competent - nice try to guilt trip me though!
Pointing out an inconsistency in your argument is a guilt trip now, is it?
there's no inconsistency though - you're just making stuff up. :facepalm: It was Donkii being newbscum and giving you both away, and you trying to cover for it. You're trying to construe that as me criticising you as a player, when I didn't.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 567, Syryana wrote:Battle Mage, this is an above game request, but remind me to ask you something about your play in the postgame.
you may as well ask me now? I think we both know we don't have long to wait. :wink:
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:i've already said all i can say on it - sorry dude. I don't know why you're so hung up about it, but I've answered your question. I townleaned AD throughout the bulk of the game for making intelligent and thoughtful observations, which felt like genuine scumhunting. But ultimately you're reading too much into the pool as something which I would have rigidly and unquestionningly stuck with. This is not the case (and in fact, wouldn't have been the case even if I was scum, hence not alignment-indicative).
fair enough
i understand that you can't give another answer but i'm just gonna note that i didn't feel like i got a satisfactory one
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:28 pm

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In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
sorry can u just link me the first post? not sure which interaction you're referring to
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:29 pm

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In post 571, skitter30 wrote:
In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:if nothing else, for the love of God, please explain the opening interaction between Donkii and Syryana if they aren't scumbuddies?
sorry can u just link me the first post? not sure which interaction you're referring to
ISO Donkii, and look at his first 5 posts. then you can delve into Syryana's responses from there to see full picture.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:29 pm

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In post 569, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 567, Syryana wrote:Battle Mage, this is an above game request, but remind me to ask you something about your play in the postgame.
you may as well ask me now? I think we both know we don't have long to wait. :wink:
You're not gonna answer it, but sure

Why did you 1v1 me here? Was it a gambit to win the game now and you figured you had enough towncred to pull it off? Because it seems to me you would have been better served to have your partner 1v1 me and let you move on to LyLo, where you have both the cred and charisma to talk whoever's left into voting your way.

Pedit: He's talking about donki's rvs vote on me, skitter. page 1
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 570, skitter30 wrote:
In post 561, Battle Mage wrote:i've already said all i can say on it - sorry dude. I don't know why you're so hung up about it, but I've answered your question. I townleaned AD throughout the bulk of the game for making intelligent and thoughtful observations, which felt like genuine scumhunting. But ultimately you're reading too much into the pool as something which I would have rigidly and unquestionningly stuck with. This is not the case (and in fact, wouldn't have been the case even if I was scum, hence not alignment-indicative).
fair enough
i understand that you can't give another answer but i'm just gonna note that i didn't feel like i got a satisfactory one
you got the honest answer *shrug*
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