Newbie 2088 | Game Over

[midwaybear]

Eyes without a face was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Congratulations to the Mafia team of

Val89 (Mafia Goon)

and

TTTT (Mafia Rolecop)

for winning Newbie Game 2088!

[midwaybear]

Scum PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=88665
Dead PT: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=88777

[Lukewarm]

Well played guys, Val's counter claim was expertly pulled off

[TTTT]

Val for MVP
no doubt!

[TTTT]

Luke - who were you leaning towards being scum at the end of day3?

[Shotbun]

Oof.

[Shotbun]

I totally did not protect the mafia twice.

[Lukewarm]

Malcolm, sorry I didn't share my reads before I died - I really should have - and I probably would have if I had not allowed myself to get over gamed. I generally play one game at a time, but I managed to get up to 3 games simultaneously right before I died,and it was just too much for me to actually reread this game.

My final read of the game was that it was never Eyes, but I didn't know who it was between Malcolm and TTTT - but I was not confident in my take enough for me to leave it for posterity

[TTTT]

I totally did not protect the mafia twice.

that makes this even better

[furtiveglance]

My order of suspicion is currently TTT most mafia, then Malcolm, then Lukewarm as most town

Biggest townread is Eyeswithoutaface

The Eyes townread was my fourth post. Over the course of the game I lost my way

[TTTT]

shotbun
I hope it wasn't too miserable for you
you were a delight to play with
there were times it looked like you were uncertain about what was going one
and this was a collection of some pretty decent players
stick around it gets better!

[TTTT]

furtive
I really enjoyed you in this game
you play loose and so open
and you don't care how it looks
I love that style
never change

[Eyes without a face]

@TTTT: So you did check Shotbun on N1, right? And Val did pick his fake claim based on knowing there is a doctor in the game, correct?

[Lukewarm]

Luke - who were you leaning towards being scum at the end of day3?

Not Eyes. That was all I had.

Subject: Newbie 2088 Dead PT

Lukewarm mentioned in two separate posts you or I were potential mafia. You almost certainly wouldn't have been the elimination but if no pressure came onto Furtive for his role claim the game could've definitely started drifting towards me or you being seen as guilty.

nah that wasn't the gamestate at the time
Eyes was more widely suspected there than you or me
then Val showed up and boom
all pressure off Eyes

Hmmm

I I still have not re-read this game. Should happen tomorrow. But my intent now is to reread assuming both furtive and eyes as town

I wonder if the scum team left me alive to lead a miselim on furtive.

Eyes never does that after seeing the soft.

I think that a Val+shotbun team, even if they have the idea of leaving me alive for that reason, kills one of tttt or Malcolm.

So I am definitely reconsidering there being scum inside tttt Malcolm during my re read

Looking back at what I was saying immediately before Val's claim, I kind of feel like a Val+Eyes team just... Doesn't fake claim.

Also, TTTT is being disingenuous here

I really thought that Malcolm was going to nail you for this. TTTT

[furtiveglance]

furtive
I really enjoyed you in this game
you play loose and so open
and you don't care how it looks
I love that style
never change

You were the only one who ever

loved

*townread* me. *sob*

[TTTT]

Malcolm and Luke
townbros4lyfe
solid solid town play
we should have NK'd one of you two earlier but we were PR hunting with the Clidd shot
I never want to role scum with you dudes again!

[MalcolmTucker]

Malcolm, sorry I didn't share my reads before I died - I really should have - and I probably would have if I had not allowed myself to get over gamed. I generally play one game at a time, but I managed to get up to 3 games simultaneously right before I died,and it was just too much for me to actually reread this game.

My final read of the game was that it was never Eyes, but I didn't know who it was between Malcolm and TTTT - but I was not confident in my take enough for me to leave it for posterity

No worries mate, could understand the logic even if I didn't necessarily agree. I was just in that uncertain position where my gut said TT but a lot of logic was starting to say Eyes, very tough one.

[TTTT]

@TTTT: So you did check Shotbun on N1, right? And Val did pick his fake claim based on knowing there is a doctor in the game, correct?

OMG!
I rolecopped you N1
for reals I did

[Lukewarm]

I really should have realized that I was dying 100% of the time vs playing for the chance that I was taken to Elo.

[Lukewarm]

furtive
I really enjoyed you in this game
you play loose and so open
and you don't care how it looks
I love that style
never change

You were the only one who ever

loved

*townread* me. *sob*

I feel like I learned a lot about the way you play the game, I hope to run into you again and read you correctly!

One of the differences playing in the newbie queue is that you run into people you have never seen, and have zero completed games so you can't even do a meta spot check.

[TTTT]

Eyes
from the mafia PT:

feeling bad for Eyes here
it's not easy what he's going through
being town and being this close to losing at the end
it's a lot easier on the old emotions to lose here as scum
no matter the outcome... sorry Eyes
nothing personal

[Lukewarm]

This was a really good game! Losing can be fun too lol

Happy to see anyone here in future games, and I hope the newbies stick around!

[TTTT]

I really should have realized that I was dying 100% of the time vs playing for the chance that I was taken to Elo.

I very much considered bringing you into ELo
you can read all about that and other dumb thoughts I had in the scum PT in a minute

[MalcolmTucker]

Luke - who were you leaning towards being scum at the end of day3?

Not Eyes. That was all I had.

Subject: Newbie 2088 Dead PT

Lukewarm mentioned in two separate posts you or I were potential mafia. You almost certainly wouldn't have been the elimination but if no pressure came onto Furtive for his role claim the game could've definitely started drifting towards me or you being seen as guilty.

nah that wasn't the gamestate at the time
Eyes was more widely suspected there than you or me
then Val showed up and boom
all pressure off Eyes

Hmmm

I I still have not re-read this game. Should happen tomorrow. But my intent now is to reread assuming both furtive and eyes as town

I wonder if the scum team left me alive to lead a miselim on furtive.

Eyes never does that after seeing the soft.

I think that a Val+shotbun team, even if they have the idea of leaving me alive for that reason, kills one of tttt or Malcolm.

So I am definitely reconsidering there being scum inside tttt Malcolm during my re read

Looking back at what I was saying immediately before Val's claim, I kind of feel like a Val+Eyes team just... Doesn't fake claim.

Also, TTTT is being disingenuous here

I really thought that Malcolm was going to nail you for this. TTTT

I was on the right tracks but never quite pinned it down.

I think what swayed me was a lot of my TT evidence felt circumstantial and at times disconnected. Whereas my Eyes evidence felt like it lined up better re the forced role reveal and later counter-claim.

[TTTT]

my main concern with this game is now I'm probably getting insta SR from some of you the next time we play together