Newbie 2093 | New Wave | Postgame

catboi · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:00 am

~Newbie 2093: New Wave~

Moderator:

catboi

Backup Moderator:

Prism

Put on your hairspray and pull out your synthesizer, we're going back to the 80's this game.

Player List

CornPuffBuddha

MightyCannon
BigTerp
furtiveglance

Hmmogus
TistDaniel

Asphodelus
Takemikazuchi02
abdbla
ItalianoVD (SE)
Val89 (SE)
Malakittens (SE)

TTTT

(bold indicates confirmation, asterisks indicate prods)

Spoiler: Alive

Spoiler: Dead

catboi · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:06 am

Ruleset

(shamelessly taken from Hectic by way of Prism, with my own modifications)

1. Fundamentals

All site-wide rules apply. Read and respect them.
This is a game. Have fun, and keep the game fun for other people. This might be the most important rule.
There is no personal communication regarding this game outside of this gamethread & associated PTs.
Do not quote any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, backup moderator, or fellow players. Do not reference timestamps of private communication.
Do not engage in the use of trust tells.
Heated discussion and debate is allowed, but personal attacks are not. I reserve the right to protect my players, and all other community members. Please PM myself and the backup moderator if you feel something needs our immediate intervention.
If you make a post indicating that the game is having a negative impact on your out of game relationships or well being, you will be warned or forcibly replaced, depending on severity. If you believe the game is having a negative impact on your life, send me a PM rather than posting about it in the game thread.
Play to your Win Condition.

2. Phases & Activity

Please post at least once every
36 hours
. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded. If you fail to respond to said prod within
24 hours
, you will be replaced.
At the time you would receive a third prod, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 24 hours (or by PM if at Night), you will be force replaced.
Day 1 will have a
10 day
deadline and all subsequent Day phases will have a
7 day
deadline. Night phases will last for
2 days
. If necessary, extensions will be granted for the purpose of securing replacements.
Votes must not be spoilered and should be in the format of VOTE: Player or
Vote: Player
, or they will not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote, it will.
Unvoting is not required, but is much appreciated.
The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:
- Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.
- Editing your posts (if you have the power to do so)
- Quoting any PTs you may have access to
If any of these offenses are committed, I have the right to force-replace you from the game, or, with listmod permission, modkill you.

3. Miscellaneous

Do not impersonate the moderator.
Feel free to address me in-thread, but if there is a large egregious mistake please PM myself or Prism. Small matters like errors in the votecount can be posted in-thread.
I have the final say on any issue. If you disagree with any action or inaction taken by me, feel free to PM myself or the relevant listmod, PenguinPower.
While I have tried to be thorough, I reserve the right to take corrective action with or without warning for any issue I feel was omitted in this ruleset.

catboi · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:08 am

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

catboi · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:23 am

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

catboi · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:07 am

Currently, it is pregame. Role PMs are being sent out now. Respond to your role PM with your role name and alignment to confirm you have read it.

All players will have 48 hours from the time their role PM is sent in order to confirm. If they do not respond within 48 hours they will be replaced.

The game will begin after 48 hours have passed, or 8/9 players have confirmed and 24 hours have passed.

This post will be updated to show progress toward game start.

All role PMs are now out!

If you would like a private topic to keep notes for this game in, PM me to request one.

7/9 players have currently confirmed.

Game start timer: (expired on 2022-04-14 15:00:00)

MightyCannon and Hmmogus have failed to pick up their role PMs and are being replaced.

CornPuffBuddha and furtiveglance have been taken from the queue to replace them. They will be given 48 hours to confirm. Apologies for the delay.

catboi · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:39 am

With 8/9 confirmed, Day 1 can now begin! Thank you for your patience!

Vote Count 1.00

Not Voting (9):

abdbla, Asphodelus, BigTerp, CornPuffBuddha, furtiveglance, ItalianoVD, Takemikazuchi02, TTTT, Val89

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is April 24 at 6:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-04-24 18:00:00)

BigTerp · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am

Hey hey, it's Mafia time!! Let's see if we can sniff out the scum quickly this game!!

Asphodelus · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:36 am

Good Day,

I will begin by VOTE: ItalionoVoD for the simple, useful reason of "Get 7-UP".

Look forward to playing with you all (and in most cases, again).

furtiveglance · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:08 pm

Inside jokes ew.
I hope we won't have any jokes this game Big Terp - they can confuse things, which does unfortunately help the mafia.

Takemikazuchi02 · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:30 pm

Hey hey people

BigTerp · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:09 pm

In post 8, furtiveglance wrote:Inside jokes ew.
I hope we won't have any jokes this game Big Terp - they can confuse things, which does unfortunately help the mafia.

Hey now!!

BigTerp · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:10 pm

In post 7, Asphodelus wrote:Good Day,

I will begin by VOTE: ItalionoVoD for the simple, useful reason of "Get 7-UP".

Look forward to playing with you all (and in most cases, again).

What is "Get 7-UP".

Val89 · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:12 pm

Greetings.

Furtive, I'm glad to see you didn't let our previous encounter scare you off as you suggested at the time it might. I look forward to playing with you again.

VOTE: Asphodelus

I am curious if the misspelling is one of those inside jokes Furtive suggests might exist, or if it is calculated to impart the sense of a carefree and frivolous attitude we are supposed to take as a towntell.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:15 pm

In post 6, BigTerp wrote:Hey hey, it's Mafia time!! Let's see if we can sniff out the scum quickly this game!!

Looks like we already have

VOTE: Asphodelus

ItalianoVD · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:17 pm

In post 8, furtiveglance wrote:Inside jokes ew.
I hope we won't have any jokes this game Big Terp - they can confuse things, which does unfortunately help the mafia.

In post 10, BigTerp wrote:
In post 8, furtiveglance wrote:Inside jokes ew.
I hope we won't have any jokes this game Big Terp - they can confuse things, which does unfortunately help the mafia.
Hey now!!

I read up on your game together. I have a little bit of meta from both of you. We’ll see how it goes this game.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:18 pm

In post 11, BigTerp wrote:
In post 7, Asphodelus wrote:Good Day,

I will begin by VOTE: ItalionoVoD for the simple, useful reason of "Get 7-UP".

Look forward to playing with you all (and in most cases, again).
What is "Get 7-UP".

This. Did we know each other in another life?

TTTT · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:28 pm

In post 9, Takemikazuchi02 wrote:Hey hey people

howdy

VOTE: Takemikazuchi02

Asphodelus · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:30 pm

7-Up is a soda and a game.

Takemikazuchi02 · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:40 pm

Dear lord, get this avatar off my face.
VOTE: TTTT

CornPuffBuddha · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:35 pm

Hello everyone. I can't think of anything witty to say, but I'm looking forwards to playing with the people here that I recognize from 2091. And the new ones, I recognize some of you from other threads I've skimmed through.

Unfortunately I do believe I'm going to have to VOTE: BigTerp based from his avatar alone. Little Italy in Baltimore, anyone?

TTTT · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:52 pm

VOTE: CornPuffBuddha

CornPuffBuddha · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:10 pm

Interesting. What exactly in 19 flipped your vote, TTTT? I assume it has something to do with my own vote on Terp.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:09 pm

In post 17, Asphodelus wrote:7-Up is a soda and a game.

It is, but your opening post is hard to understand. I’m assuming it’s an RVS post, but I don’t get it if it’s supposed to be a joke so I figured you are possibly deliberately trying to make it confusing. Am I wrong?

TTTT · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:51 pm

@Cornpuff
yeah I didn't like the post
why do you assume it has something to do with your vote?

BigTerp · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:42 am

In post 17, Asphodelus wrote:7-Up is a soda and a game.

Well, yeah. I just thought there was more meaning to your opening post and reason for voting to "Get 7-UP".

VOTE: ItalionoVoD 95% RVS vote and 5% because of that avatar. It's really irking me for some reason.