Mewbie 2094 -- GAME OVER

Malakittens · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:31 pm

Mewbie: 2094

Mod:

Malakittens

Status:

Day 4

The Worst

Asphodelus

Takemikazuchi02
Cat.Jpeg
lukewarm

GoldfishFromTheMoon

Tidus of the X

NotAJumbleOfNumbers

syugar

yoy333

goodmorning (SE)
Bellaphant (SE)
catboi (SE)

Sailin' the Ocean Blue: (4/9)

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Walked the Plank (5/9):

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Back Up Replacements:

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Malakittens · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:31 pm

Game Rules:

General Rules

:

*Obey sitewide rules. They are found here.
*Please read this informational post before starting the game.
*Be nice, civil and play to win. Play to your wincondition. Have fun!
*Do not discuss this game elsewhere unless specified.
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*All roles will be randomly given out. I use this site for reference. (Thank you TAM for showing me)

Voting, Eliminations & Deadlines:

*Day 1 will last 10 days.
*All other days will last 7 days.
*Nights will last 2 days.
*Eliminations will require a majority. A no elimination will occur if vote requirements are not met. All votes must be bolded.
*Eliminations is 50%+1.
*I might miss votes - if I make a mistake - please PM me about it.

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[v]Mala[/v]

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[b]Vote: Mala[/b]

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Malakittens · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:31 pm

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Mods should use the sample role PMs below.

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Malakittens · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:32 pm

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

Malakittens · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:23 pm

All hands hoay!
All role pms are out. Game will begin when 7/9 have confirmed or in 24 hours, whichever comes first!

Malakittens · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:19 am

Votecount 1.0

Not Voting (9): Asphodelus, Takemikazuchi02, Cat.Jpeg, GoldfishFromTheMoon, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, yoy333, goodmorning, Bellaphant, catboi

With 9 alive it takes 5 to Eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2022-05-07 10:20:00)

yoy333 has 24 hours to pick up his role PM before being replaced.
(expired on 2022-04-28 10:20:00)

Bellaphant · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:58 am

VOTE: ash

Ready for another perfect game?

catboi · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:17 am

Hai all~ o(〃＾▽＾〃)o

Excited this finally started, looking forward to playing with Takemikazuchi02 and Asphodelus basd on what I've seen of you elsewhere.

NotAJumbleOfNumbers · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:30 am

hi hi hi!!! I’m excited to try out this mafia thing…again…again. Look, some people just have trouble figuring out Mafia, okay?
Point is, it turns out that you don’t need to have good reads or whatever. That’s not the entire game. I approached Mafia thinking it was the entire game and that’s why I wasn’t great at it.

I’m trying something different this time around.

goodmorning · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:15 am

VOTE: Bella

I feel so neglected.

Hi everyone from the last Newbie game I was in! Hi everyone who wasn't in that game!

@Numbers: what are you trying that's different than your previous approach, can you be more specific?

Takemikazuchi02 · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:58 am

Hi hi

Seconding goodmorning

Asphodelus · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:00 am

In post 6, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: ash

Ready for another perfect game?

I could only be so lucky to get one.

One thing I am noticing from the games Ive watched and read so far is that the way I played in that game isn't well liked. Im going to try to post more and quicker rather than my big text walls this time.

VOTE: GoodMorning

Let's get this triangle going.

Ps. I appreciate youre the only one who shortens it into Ash and no Aspho.

Bellaphant · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:18 am

Good to play with all of you again, obvs!

@ash, i just can't read, I find it helps with mafia games

Asphodelus · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:29 am

I wasnt being sarcastic. I prefer Ash over Aspho.

GoldfishFromTheMoon · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:32 am

Looks like we are back for another cat themed mewbie game, with my buddies Malakittens and Cat.Jpeg. The members of the Anti Cat Pun Alliance are gone, and nobody ever joined my Goldfish revolution against the cats so I'm not sure I'll try my luck here given the large proportion of cat based avatars (4/10 people in this thread) (This is all a reference to mewbie 2092 btw.)

Cat.jpeg, goodmorning and malakittens all have avatars of black cats, which is very appropriate for the flavour but is going to make it confusing to follow the game.

GoldfishFromTheMoon · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:33 am

In post 13, Asphodelus wrote:I wasnt being sarcastic. I prefer Ash over Aspho.

I'm not at al related to this discussion but I think Ash sounds better as well.

NotAJumbleOfNumbers · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:35 pm

In post 9, goodmorning wrote:@Numbers: what are you trying that's different than your previous approach, can you be more specific?

It's been like years since my last attempt so I don't remember it well, sorry. I'm mostly just trying to not psych myself out over my reads possibly being wrong (let's be real here, they almost unavoidably are going to be wrong) and how my posts look to other people.

catboi · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:22 pm

In post 11, Asphodelus wrote:
In post 6, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: ash

Ready for another perfect game?
I could only be so lucky to get one.

One thing I am noticing from the games Ive watched and read so far is that the way I played in that game isn't well liked. Im going to try to post more and quicker rather than my big text walls this time.

VOTE: GoodMorning

Let's get this triangle going.

Ps. I appreciate youre the only one who shortens it into Ash and no Aspho.

All the wallposters get broken by site meta. It's sad to see. Some of my best friends back in the day were wallposters. But don't feel pressured by my nostalgia, try to find the posting style that works best for you.

In post 16, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
In post 9, goodmorning wrote:@Numbers: what are you trying that's different than your previous approach, can you be more specific?
It's been like years since my last attempt so I don't remember it well, sorry. I'm mostly just trying to not psych myself out over my reads possibly being wrong (let's be real here, they almost unavoidably are going to be wrong) and how my posts look to other people.

Being wrong is a part of the game. Even the best players are frequently wrong. Us mere mortals have to cope with stumbling around blindly and occasionally lucking into being right. Don't beat yourself up over it too much. (I am not good at following this advice.

Find myself a little too wrapped up in conversation, not enough forward momentum.

VOTE: Bellaphant

Call it a gut feeling.

Cat.Jpeg · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:38 pm

In post 14, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:Looks like we are back for another cat themed mewbie game, with my buddies Malakittens and Cat.Jpeg. The members of the Anti Cat Pun Alliance are gone, and nobody ever joined my Goldfish revolution against the cats so I'm not sure I'll try my luck here given the large proportion of cat based avatars (4/10 people in this thread) (This is all a reference to mewbie 2092 btw.)

Cat.jpeg, goodmorning and malakittens all have avatars of black cats, which is very appropriate for the flavour but is going to make it confusing to follow the game.

VOTE: Goldfish Puns are bad but cats are great so overall catpuns are good. Your anti cat pun alliance has fallen to shambles for good reason you blasphemer.

Bellaphant · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:59 pm

I tend to repeat post ( I try not to triple post) as I often respond fairly quickly and then need to clarify/add another idea.

In terms of reads, jumble, (also hi, have we played survivor together?) I kind of have the opposite problem: my initial reads tend to be pretty good - for example in the game we just played, I pegged an initial scum read (scum) and then scum in one of the three people that responded to my case in a way that didn't seem 'right' (and one was scum).

I also find that finding your 'lock town' is really helpful, sometimes more helpful than having exact scum reads. Like I think sorting GM here for me will be really helpful

not in newbies, particularly, but I've often found investigate roles more helpful to conf!town a slot I knew I would vibe with, for example.

GoldfishFromTheMoon · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:26 pm

In post 18, Cat.Jpeg wrote:
In post 14, GoldfishFromTheMoon wrote:Looks like we are back for another cat themed mewbie game, with my buddies Malakittens and Cat.Jpeg. The members of the Anti Cat Pun Alliance are gone, and nobody ever joined my Goldfish revolution against the cats so I'm not sure I'll try my luck here given the large proportion of cat based avatars (4/10 people in this thread) (This is all a reference to mewbie 2092 btw.)

Cat.jpeg, goodmorning and malakittens all have avatars of black cats, which is very appropriate for the flavour but is going to make it confusing to follow the game.
VOTE: Goldfish Puns are bad but cats are great so overall catpuns are good. Your anti cat pun alliance has fallen to shambles for good reason you blasphemer.

The opposite to my logic which was cats=bad, puns=ok therefore catpuns=bad.

But it seems we are pirate cats sailing the high seas this game so I'm down with some pirate jokes.

goodmorning · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:13 am

@Numbers: not what I expected you to say, but yes, that sounds like a decent idea. It's normal to have more scumreads than there are scum in a game, so some would necessarily be wrong, just by...

the numbers

[insert that ancient meme here]

I do agree with Bella that townhunting can be as important as scumhunting, though I'm a lot more hesitant to "locktown" people because of my terrible paranoia.

@Goldfish: Arrrrrrrr you sure about that?

--

VOTE: catboi

This is a serious vote.

Bellaphant · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:17 am

VOTE: goldfish

A better vote.

I just want to repeat this early: a newbie game day one shouldn't last much more than ten pages

NotAJumbleOfNumbers · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:31 am

In post 19, Bellaphant wrote:In terms of reads, jumble, (also hi, have we played survivor together?)

Maybe? It’s been a while since I’ve played Survivor. I’ve always been meaning to play another one now that I have a bit more maturity under my belt but there’s a very real chance that it’ll never happen again, at least on MS

In post 21, goodmorning wrote:so some would necessarily be wrong, just by... the numbers [insert that ancient meme here]

And that is why I changed my username. Several times. I only use this username here because I’d have to make a new account to change it, and I don’t want to lose my original join date.

And at both of you: Why’d you assume I was talking about scumreads first? It’s not an unreasonable assumption to make, but it is a (slightly) unnecessary one. I already know about the importance of both townreads and scumreads.

Malakittens · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:28 am