Newbie 2106 - Postgame

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Newbie 2106 - Postgame

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:24 pm

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Newbie 2106


Moderator: Alianna
Backup Moderator: Marashu
Setup: NewD3



Playerlist1. Aisa (SE)
cheverie**

2. FroggyMaybe*
Throne

3. HighPrincessErinys*
4. Zombie Detective**
HyruleHitman7

5. kkirigiri
6. BlueSnakelet
faüstiv***

7. Wayward Son (SE)**
8. Charles510 (SE)
9. Not Known 15 (SE)

(asterisks indicate prods)


Alive


BlueSnakelet,
Mafia Roleblocker
, survived


Dead


Charles510,
Vanilla Townie
, eliminated Day 1
Not Known 15,
Town Mason
, killed Night 1
FroggyMaybe,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated Day 2
kkirigiri,
Town Mason
, killed Night 2
HighPrincessErinys,
Vanilla Townie
, eliminated Day 3
Wayward Son,
Vanilla Townie
, killed Night 3
Aisa,
Vanilla Townie
, eliminated Day 4
Zombie Detective,
Vanilla Townie
, endgamed Day 4


Events






Spoiler: Postgame
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:30 pm

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Rules

(yes, this post is long, but I would rather have everything be clear from the start)

General


1. Please abide by all site rules (most of the important ones are repeated in this post).
2. If you have questions or feel that a situation needs moderator intervention, PM me.
3. Toxicity will not be tolerated. Toxic behaviour includes, but is not necessarily limited to:
- flaming
- personal attacks
- use of slurs or derogatory language
- spamming
- excessive AtE
- intentionally making the game unenjoyable for other players
- otherwise being a jerk
This rule exists to ensure that the game remains enjoyable for everyone. If you do not stop after a warning, I will most likely replace you.
4. Play to your win condition.
5. If you wish to replace out, request replacement via PM. Do not discuss replacing out in thread or suggest that another player replace out.
6. Once you request replacement or I notify you that you are being replaced, it is final. You cease to be a player in the game and may no longer post. You may not replace back into your slot.
7. Dead bodies don't talk! Dead players may not post in the game thread or any associated PTs other than the spectator PT.
8. Do not discuss this game outside of the game thread and associated PTs.
9. Do not quote or misquote private communications into the game thread. Paraphrasing is fine. Private communications include:
- your role PM
- communications with the moderator
- posts from PTs
10. Do not engage in the use of trust tells.
11. Do not use provable randomness. Claiming to have rolled a die, for example, is fine; using dice tags is not.
12. Do not use cryptography, invisible text, or text under size 75.
13. If you have the power to edit or delete posts, do not use it.
14. My mod colour is
#7CC411
. Please refrain from using it. Other greens are fine.
15. In the past, the word "lynch" referred to the town's elimination method. Due to the racially charged history of lynchings in the USA, Mafiascum no longer allows this word to be used. Alternatives include:
- eliminate and its derivatives
- execute
- condemn
- fade
- vote off
- YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
- anything else that gets the point across
16. You may not seriously claim scum with another player.
17. Pretending to break a rule will be treated as if the rule was actually broken.
18. I reserve the right to alter (some aspects of) the ruleset. If I do so, I will announce it in thread.


Activity


19. At minimum, you must make one game-relevant post every 36 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded.
20. You must pick up your prod within 24 hours by posting game-relevant content. If your prod occurs within 24 hours of night start, you may instead respond to the night start PM. If you do not pick up your prod, you will be replaced.
21. If you accumulate 3 prods, you will be replaced.
22. If you are going to be V/LA, you must inform me by declaring it in thread or by PM.
23. Regardless of V/LA status, any player who does not post for 5 days will be replaced. If you foresee that this will be the case for you, please request replacement.


Deadlines


24. Day 1 has a 10-day deadline. All other days have a 7-day deadline. Nights have a 2-day deadline.
25. Deadline extensions may be granted in special circumstances. Requests for extensions will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
26. The night can end early if all living players, including those without night actions, agree to it.


Voting and Elimination


27. Votes and unvotes must be bolded in the format
VOTE: Player
or in vote/unvote tags (VOTE: Player). Vote/unvote tags are preferred. You can get vote tags by typing (vote)Player(/vote) with square brackets.
28. Improperly formatted votes, unclear votes, and votes in spoilers or obviously broken quotes will not be counted.
29. An elimination occurs when a majority (>50%) of players agree to eliminate someone.
30. If no majority is reached by the deadline, no elimination will occur.
31. You may vote to no-eliminate (VOTE: No Elimination). If the number of living players is even, only 50% of players must agree to secure a no-elimination.
32. Once the hammer vote is cast, the day’s fate is sealed. Discussion may continue into the twilight, but no further votes or unvotes will be counted.


Private Topics


33. All existing PTs have daytalk.
34. You may quote posts from the game thread into PTs, but you may not quote posts from PTs into the game thread. Drafting posts in PTs, however, is fine.
35. If you would like a personal PT, you may request one.
36. If you have a personal PT, do not use it to prove you are working from a town mindset (real or fake).
37. All PTs shared by two or more players will be released unredacted after the game ends. If you have a personal PT, it is up to you what you would like to do with it.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:45 pm

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Setup Information


Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setup List
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town JailkeeperWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town CopWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town MasonWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [Player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Town TrackerWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town DoctorWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RoleblockerWelcome, [Player], to Newbie 2106!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:47 pm

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Introduction and Tips


Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:20 pm

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Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 7/9 players have confirmed or in 48 hours, whichever comes first.

Currently, 8/9 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:22 pm

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Game start may be slightly delayed as I am waiting on the listmod to clear something up. Sorry for any inconvenience.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:13 pm

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The confirmation phase is being extended by approximately 12 hours, starting now.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:33 am

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FroggyMaybe replaces Throne. Zombie Detective replaces HyruleHitman7. Day 1 will begin momentarily.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:45 am

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1.00
Votecount 1.00


Not Voting (9): cheverie, FroggyMaybe, HighPrincessErinys, Zombie Detective, kkirigiri, faüstiv, Wayward Son, Charles510, Not Known 15

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-11-29 11:45:42).
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:07 am

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yo
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:45 am

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Well, damn. There goes this one's HyruleHitman 'he's got hitman in the name, easy.' RVS vote.

VOTE: FroggyMaybe
What do you mean MAYBE though?
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:59 am

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In post 10, HighPrincessErinys wrote:Well, damn. There goes this one's HyruleHitman 'he's got hitman in the name, easy.' RVS vote.

VOTE: FroggyMaybe
What do you mean MAYBE though?
Sounds like scum.
VOTE: HighPrincessErinys
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:44 am

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Goddamnit I want Throne to play!
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:14 am

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VOTE: Froggy
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:41 am

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Evening everyone.

Anyone know any decent cake recipes? Been on a bit of a baking tilt the last week or so and would like some fresh ideas.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:07 pm

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In post 14, kkirigiri wrote:Evening everyone.

Anyone know any decent cake recipes? Been on a bit of a baking tilt the last week or so and would like some fresh ideas.
Dunno about cake recipes but have you tried the funny banana bread recipe from the game Arcanum's manual? Shouldn't too hard to find it.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:43 pm

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hello mafia scummers of newbie 2106 day 1!
kkirigiri wrote:Evening everyone.

Anyone know any decent cake recipes? Been on a bit of a baking tilt the last week or so and would like some fresh ideas.
flan cake can be kinda tough to make but it usually turns out good even if its not perfect.

VOTE: Not Known 15
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:13 pm

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cheverie Nov 19, 03:43pm Nov 19, 03:43pm 0 days 0 hours 1
HighPrincessErinys Nov 19, 08:45am Nov 19, 03:07pm 0 days 1 hour 2
kkirigiri Nov 19, 02:41pm Nov 19, 02:41pm 0 days 1 hour 1
Charles510 Nov 19, 10:44am Nov 19, 11:14am 0 days 4 hours 2
Not Known 15 Nov 19, 08:59am Nov 19, 08:59am 0 days 7 hours 1
faüstiv Nov 19, 08:07am Nov 19, 08:07am 0 days 8 hours 1
Alianna Nov 16, 04:24pm Nov 19, 07:45am 0 days 8 hours 9


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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:38 pm

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In post 16, cheverie wrote:hello mafia scummers of newbie 2106 day 1!

flan cake can be kinda tough to make but it usually turns out good even if its not perfect.

VOTE: Not Known 15
not tried anything like that before but I like the look of the Brazilian version; anything with a dark chocolatey flavour's good in my book, I may give this a go.
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Dunno about cake recipes but have you tried the funny banana bread recipe from the game Arcanum's manual? Shouldn't too hard to find it.
My sister loves banana bread, loves making it when she comes round, alas it wasn't something I ever
got
the taste of. May be one for her though!
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:14 pm

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In post 14, kkirigiri wrote:Anyone know any decent cake recipes? Been on a bit of a baking tilt the last week or so and would like some fresh ideas.
If you're looking for a challenge, have you made Angel Food. You get it right, it's heaven!

I'm saving my RVS for after RVS.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:16 pm

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In post 17, Charles510 wrote:cheverie Nov 19, 03:43pm Nov 19, 03:43pm 0 days 0 hours 1
HighPrincessErinys Nov 19, 08:45am Nov 19, 03:07pm 0 days 1 hour 2
kkirigiri Nov 19, 02:41pm Nov 19, 02:41pm 0 days 1 hour 1
Charles510 Nov 19, 10:44am Nov 19, 11:14am 0 days 4 hours 2
Not Known 15 Nov 19, 08:59am Nov 19, 08:59am 0 days 7 hours 1
faüstiv Nov 19, 08:07am Nov 19, 08:07am 0 days 8 hours 1
Alianna Nov 16, 04:24pm Nov 19, 07:45am 0 days 8 hours 9


who's missing?
Umm, me and few others???? I don't hide the times I'm on?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:20 pm

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Carry on, my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:25 pm

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In post 21, Charles510 wrote:Don't you cry no more
Maybe, eventually!? lol
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:35 pm

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@ faüstiv I realize I'm singling you out, very early on. BUT two letters? Come on.

If you'd said anything else, even yo with an exclamation point, you may have never been discovered. The jig is up!
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:37 pm

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~•~
I townread Alianna.

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