Newbie 2119: Pictures of People Wearing Cool Hats | GAME OVER
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Newbie 2119: Pictures of People Wearing Cool Hats | GAME OVER
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Last edited by Thestatusquo on Fri May 12, 2023 7:29 am, edited 24 times in total.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.
Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)
Key Concepts and Tips
Activity
Try to check in at least once a day.Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyoneplays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?
Site Meta
Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...
Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.
Voting, E-x, and Hammers
E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).
Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.
Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.
Do not fake claim a power role as town!While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.
ELo
ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.
Conclusion
Mafia is hard!As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.That's okay!Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".
This is a game.Have fun!tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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- Day Phase: 10 days for day 1, 7 days after that. Night Phase 2 days
- 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement.
- Respect everyone's basic humanity. Do not be an asshole to people. Don't be a racist or sexist or really any other -ist. Respect other players displayed pronouns.
- Have fun. This is not an option. Games are only good when players are having fun. If you are not having fun, replace out. There is no shame in this. I have no problem with it. You are not a bad person. Both you and the game will be happier for it.
- The mod is always right. Always. Yes, even then. However, if you think there’s some confusion, and it absolutely can’t wait until the end of the game, send me a PM; do not break my game because you died when you didn’t think you should’ve.
- Days will continue until one of two things happen: a player is killed or a deadline passes.
- Do not be toxic in my game. Being toxic is subjective and I am the final say on what that means. If you have a problem with that, don't play my games. But I will forcibly remove players from the game if I feel like they are playing in a way that is insulting or rude to the other players in the game. You don't get to be an asshole just because you're playing a game on the internet.
- Do NOT quote your role PMs, OR any other form of communication from me unless it is something I have already posted on this thread
- Do not discuss the game outside of the game thread unless your role allows you to, in which case you may only do it during the specified times and in the specified threads.
- You’re required to post regularly. I prod after 48 hours of inactivity and replace after 24 hours of no response to the prod. This can be flexible if you PM me in advance.
- Once you’re dead, you’re no longer subject to the previous rule. As a matter of fact, once you’re dead, stop posting. I will permit one simple “bah” post and nothing more.
- In the event of a modkill, it will end the day.
- If a deadline passes without a player receiving the majority of the votes the day will end with no kill.
- The days in this game the first day will last 10 days and subsequent days will last 7.
- If you don't get your choices in, your default action is NO ACTION.
- Votes must be in the form of the vote tags or bolded using a similar format. Please try to use the vote tags as they're much easier to count. So there's no confusion if it looks like a vote I will count it as a vote.
- Please do not use any cryptography, really small text with the intent to mislead or provable randomness in this game.
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Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)
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All role PMs are out, game will begin when 7/9 players confirm or 24 hours from now whichever happens first.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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8/9 Players confirmed, day 1 is go!
VoteCount 1.0
Not Voting [ 9 ]
KawaiiKame, Dragoneater70, Black, Cometbright, Deltabreedy, patchwork, Bellaphant, AurorusVox, Venmar
With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be eliminated.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-04-15 23:59:00)
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Bellaphant Jack of All Trades
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VOTE: av
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Hello everyone! It is I, your honorable Scum Queen and I hereby claim the second post of the game and announce that I unfortunately have received a green PM
VOTE: Delta-
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Who doesn't love a throwback
VOTE: PatchRefer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
Regular V/LA Wednesday evenings and Thursday all day (UTC+1)|GTKAS-
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Cometbright Mafia Scum
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VOTE: Black for blatantly revealing herself as Potion Master.
Excited for this game - a lot of folk from the last game I was in and some other faces here I’ve seen interesting stuff from during my semi-spectating of newbie games!-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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VOTE: Black
They are, as they said, the undoubtable scum queen, and I am going to do a pro move and vote them early on, so that if they pocket me later, I can always said I at least voted them at some point in the game-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Hiiii Comet!In post 9, Cometbright wrote: VOTE: Black for blatantly revealing herself as Potion Master.
Excited for this game - a lot of folk from the last game I was in and some other faces here I’ve seen interesting stuff from during my semi-spectating of newbie games!
It's so exiciting to see you again!
Which games have you semi spectated?-
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Cometbright Mafia Scum
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Same to you!In post 11, DragonEater70 wrote: Hiiii Comet!
It's so exiciting to see you again!
Which games have you semi spectated?
Pretty much all of the newbie games in between our one and the actively ongoing ones I can't comment on - though as I said it was a semi-spectate so I didn't read through the entirety of them. Still gave me what I like to consider a fairly good impression of the users playstyles though!-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Okay great.
So you know the best play to do on D1 is to to vote Patchwork for not being active enough, right?
Btw I have no clue who Vemnar is, so to get to know them better:
1. Hi Venmar, wassup? Care to say a few words about yourself, your playstyle, etc?
2. Any recommended recently completed game in which you have participated to look at to get a feel of your meta?-
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Cometbright Mafia Scum
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Tbf Patch is usually pretty active - just that their posts tend to be a little surface-level in terms of scumhunting sometimes. I have faith in them this game though! Kawaii you seem to be a bit lurk-ey in playstyle but I hope we get chances to interact this gameIn post 13, DragonEater70 wrote: So you know the best play to do on D1 is to to vote Patchwork for not being active enough, right?
Yes - Vemnar is the person this game I have 0 background info of any kind on, any input you wish to give would be helpful!-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Kawaii is generally pretty active but the past week or so it seems like he's fallen off a cliffIn post 14, Cometbright wrote: Kawaii you seem to be a bit lurk-ey in playstyle but I hope we get chances to interact this game-
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Bellaphant Jack of All Trades
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The nice thing about last game was av was obvscum: pls don't let him charm you into limming obv town again!
Dragon is prob town, page one hot take-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I totally missed that game, which one was that?In post 16, Bellaphant wrote: The nice thing about last game was av was obvscum: pls don't let him charm you into limming obv town again!
Dragon is prob town, page one hot take-
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Cometbright Mafia Scum
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The one with PoD right? The tracker claim - Newbie 2115? I saw snippets of the argument while I was on break during a late shift that day and was dumbfounded how town believed the late JK claim over a tracker with a confirmed guilty!In post 17, DragonEater70 wrote: I totally missed that game, which one was that?-
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Cometbright Mafia Scum
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Love me some hot takes - I'm inclined to agree with this. Proactivity this early during RVS pleases meIn post 16, Bellaphant wrote: Dragon is prob town, page one hot take-
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Bellaphant Jack of All Trades
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Poor patch, up was so scummy but patch was so chaotic, it reminded me of my first newbie game.
@dragon, it was wild, they elimed obv!town Omi day one-
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Bellaphant Jack of All Trades
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Noone else on this page is town yet.-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Welp, pack it up guys. We'll try again next page-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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Maybe on page 2-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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I will be...
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