- towwl
- Mafiabat***
- Deltabreedy
- GuerillaWoo* (replaces sparkleseal)
- The Bulge*
- Bazuf
- Malakittens* (SE)
- JasonWazza (replaces Invisibility)(SE)
- Pink Ball (replaces Black)(SE)
Newbie 2123: Synthwave | Game Over
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6053
- Joined: August 3, 2016
- Location: Somewhere out there
Newbie 2123: Synthwave | Game Over
Players
Spoiler: Game state
Last edited by Umlaut on Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:13 pm, edited 35 times in total.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6053
- Joined: August 3, 2016
- Location: Somewhere out there
Tl;dr- This is a semi-open setup (see next post for details).
- Day 1 lasts up to 240 hours (10 days); subsequent days last up to168 hours (7 days).
- Nights last 48 hours (2 days), but can end early if all living players want that.
- You must post at least once per 36 hoursto avoid being prodded and eventually replaced.
- Standard majority-only elimination mechanics.
- Mafia have daytalk.
Conduct- Don't use orange, it's my color.
- Play to win.
- Don't discuss the game outside of the game until it's over.
- Don't flame. Don't harass. Don't use insults that target minority, disadvantaged, or legally protected classes.
- Keep interpersonal disputes out of the game thread.
- Don't quote or misquote private communications from the moderator.
- Don't use encryption, tiny/hidden/unreadable text, or anything that could be easily confused for such.
- All replacement requests will be taken as serious, irrevocable, and immediate. Once you request replacement you are no longer a player and may not post.
- Don't game the rules, pretend to break the rules, or intentionally test the limits. All pretended violations will be dealt with identically to actual violations.
- Don't break the rules of any other ongoing game in this thread.
- Don't argue moderator actions in the game thread. If you want to dispute a ruling, do so via PM.
Game mechanics
Day- Day 1 begins with a deadline of 240 hours(10 days); all subsequent days begin with a deadline of168 hours(7 days).
- Days will end when one of the following events occurs:
- The deadline is reached.
- An eliminationorno-eliminationis achieved.
- A town-aligned player is modkilled.
- The deadline is reached.
- Votes should be made via the vote tag: “vote” or “v”. Full player names or initial segments thereof are preferred.
- When more than half of living players are voting for the same player, that player will be eliminated and the day will end. Votes are irrevocable once a majority is achieved.
- You may vote not to eliminate anyone by voting for “No elimination”. When half or more of living players do so, the day will end without an elimination.
- If the day reaches deadline without a majority, there will be no elimination.
- I will interpret malformed votes according to my own discretion. In general, if it looks like a vote, I will probably count it as a vote. I reserve the right to edit malformed votes for easier counting.
- When a majority vote has been achieved but not yet recognized by the moderator, the game is in twilight. Players, including the eliminated player, may continue to post during this period.
- Under certain circumstances I may elect to extend the deadline. I will announce this in thread if it occurs.
Night- Nights will last 48 hours, or until all living players give me their approval to end the night early.
- During the night, you should be unable to post in the public game thread. If for some reason you are able, doing so is still against the rules.
- Mafia night abilities should be submitted in the Mafia's private thread. Factional kills must specify which mafioso carries out the kill.
- Town night abilities should be submitted via PM.
- Use of active night abilities is optional unless otherwise specified in the role PM; if no action is submitted, no action will occur.
Win conditions- All Town players have the following win condition: “You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.”
- All Mafia players have the following win condition: “You win when the Mafia is the sole surviving faction, or when nothing can prevent this.”
Activity requirements- Players who do not confirm within 48 hoursof receiving their role PM will be replaced.
- Players who do not post any game-related content for 36 hoursin a single game-day will incur a prod.
- Players who do not post any game-related content for 24 hoursfollowing a prod will be replaced.
- Players who incur three prods will be replaced.
- “Prod dodges” (posts with no game-related content) will be disregarded for purposes of the prod timer. If you must prod-dodge, include at least some minimal game-related content in the post.
- If for any reason you are temporarily unable to meet these requirements, you may declare V/LA status in threadand be excused. V/LA declarations must include a definite end date.
- Notwithstanding V/LA status, any player who does not post at all for 5 daysof consecutive day time will be replaced.
- These are minimal requirements, not recommendations; please keep the game active. At my discretion I may prod and eventually replace players who I judge are not making a good faith effort to participate.
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6053
- Joined: August 3, 2016
- Location: Somewhere out there
Setup information
This game uses the NewD3 setup, designed by RadiantCowbells.
Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.A B C Mafia Mafia RoleblockerMafia RolecopMafia GoonRow 1 Town Cop and Town DoctorTown Tracker and Town Friendly NeighborTown Cop and Vanilla TownieRow 2 Town Jailkeeper and Town TrackerTown Jailkeeper and Town Friendly NeighborTown Jailkeeper and Vanilla TownieRow 3 Town Mason and Town MasonTown Tracker and Town DoctorTown Mason and Town Mason
The remaining six roles will be filled in byandone mafia goonappropriately, to create afive vanilla towniesand2-mafiasetup.7-town
All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.action takes precedence over aMafia Roleblockeraction should that apply.Town Jailkeeper
Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.
Spoiler: List of Setups
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6053
- Joined: August 3, 2016
- Location: Somewhere out there
Introduction and tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.
Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):
-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)
Key Concepts and Tips
Activity
Try to check in at least once a day.Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyoneplays. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?
Site Meta
Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...
Random Voting Stage (RVS)
Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.
Voting, E-x, and Hammers
E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).
Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.
Claiming Your Role
It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.
Do not fake claim a power role as town!While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.
ELo
ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.
Conclusion
Mafia is hard!As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.That's okay!Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".
This is a game.Have fun!“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 6053
- Joined: August 3, 2016
- Location: Somewhere out there
With 8 players confirmed, the game begins.
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13547
- Joined: January 27, 2023
- Pronoun: she/her
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
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- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13547
- Joined: January 27, 2023
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VOTE: Delta
mala care to join me?-
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towwl he/himGoonhe/him
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 293
- Joined: May 3, 2023
- Pronoun: he/him
VOTE: Nickel555
greetings. I am voting Nickel555 for having no avatar. Pretty suspicious. I have my eyes on you, too, Bazuf-
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Malakittens Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 18363
- Joined: June 5, 2012
VOTE: BlackNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Get to know a Mala~Grey<3 4.7.2015-
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Malakittens Survivor
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- Survivor
- Posts: 18363
- Joined: June 5, 2012
VOTE: delta
sheeping my mentorNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Get to know a Mala~Grey<3 4.7.2015-
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Bazuf HeGoonHe
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 212
- Joined: April 23, 2023
- Pronoun: He
- Location: Portugal
Hi everyone!
Having no avatar is very townie
This is my second game in the forum, so please don't get me out on D-1 again!STATS
NEWBIE GAMES
Town - P:4 / W:3 / L:1
Mafia - P:0 / W:0 / L:0-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5911
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hi guys
VOTE: Bazuf. We must pressure the avatarless into getting avatarsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
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If you get an avatar I will consider itIn post 10, Bazuf wrote: This is my second game in the forum, so please don't get me out on D-1 again-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13547
- Joined: January 27, 2023
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Hi blue squirrel! :3-
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Bazuf HeGoonHe
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 212
- Joined: April 23, 2023
- Pronoun: He
- Location: Portugal
Damn I'm feeling pressured by the mob...
I'll have to take care of that soon...STATS
NEWBIE GAMES
Town - P:4 / W:3 / L:1
Mafia - P:0 / W:0 / L:0-
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Deltabreedy He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2165
- Joined: February 26, 2023
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: London
VOTE: Black
Haven't tunnelled in on you for a few weeks, maybe today?Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
Regular V/LA Wednesday evenings and Thursday all day (UTC+1)|GTKAS-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
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hiii!In post 13, Black wrote: Hi blue squirrel! :3Invisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Malakittens Survivor
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- Posts: 18363
- Joined: June 5, 2012
please just fucking dontIn post 15, Deltabreedy wrote: VOTE: Black
Haven't tunnelled in on you for a few weeks, maybe today?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Get to know a Mala~Grey<3 4.7.2015-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13547
- Joined: January 27, 2023
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It's ok mala. I will handle anything and everything that comes my way in a cool, calm, collected manner-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5911
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Deltabreedy He/himMafia ScumHe/him
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- Posts: 2165
- Joined: February 26, 2023
- Pronoun: He/him
- Location: London
Do you have a problem with me? Because Black doesn't.In post 17, Malakittens wrote:
please just fucking dontIn post 15, Deltabreedy wrote: VOTE: Black
Haven't tunnelled in on you for a few weeks, maybe today?Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
Regular V/LA Wednesday evenings and Thursday all day (UTC+1)|GTKAS-
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Deltabreedy He/himMafia ScumHe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2165
- Joined: February 26, 2023
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- Location: London
I'd rather not go onto page two with any pre-concieved notions or issues so if we can air that out sooner than later - that would be pretty good.Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
Regular V/LA Wednesday evenings and Thursday all day (UTC+1)|GTKAS-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13547
- Joined: January 27, 2023
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No. We're not doing this here. And remember under no circumstances can we talk about ongoing games. @Bazuf your 10 could be considered this so just be careful-
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Nickel555 Townie
- Townie
- Townie
- Posts: 13
- Joined: May 7, 2023
- Location: Alaska
oh god, so much has happened while i was gone. I wasn't expecting it to be this fast-
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towwl he/himGoonhe/him
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 293
- Joined: May 3, 2023
- Pronoun: he/him
Not a huge fan of the vibes here. How about a change of topic?
I played forum mafia a little bit on a small forum long ago, like 2015 or something, but hardly remember any of those games. Those games were also played with people I knew, but I know absolutely nothing about anybody here, which is exciting.
Anyways I'm going to read some articles on town play while I wait for the vibes in here to correct.
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