Newbie 2128 - Manila Noir - Postgame

[humaneatingmonkey]

Newbie 2128

Manila Noir

Postgame

Moderator: humaneatingmonkey

Photos by Lucius Felimus.

Manila is not for the faint of heart. Built on water and reclaimed land,
it’s an intense, congested, teeming megalopolis, the vital core of an urban network
of sixteen cities and one municipality collectively known as Metro Manila.
Population: over ten million and growing by the minute. Climate: tropical.
Which means hot, humid, prone to torrential monsoon rains of biblical proportions.

Jessica Haggedorn

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Player List:

Alianna (SE)

MikhailTal

ender
Maduisha
SmileyDude1
DkKoba (SE)

Keria

the worst (SE)

Starfire

iamveryhappy (SE)
Deltabreedy (SE)

JasonWazza (SE) Wayward Son (SE)

Political Clout (SE)

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Events:

Spoiler:

Day 1 Start.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Rules

Shamelessly taken from Umlaut.

None of these rules supercede or contradict the Forum Rules and Guidelines.

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Tl;dr

• This is a semi-open setup (see next post for details).
  
• Day 1 lasts up to
  240 hours (10 days)
  ; subsequent days last up to
  168 hours (7 days)
  .
  
• Nights last
  48 hours (2 days)
  , but can end early if all living players want that.
  
• You must post at least once per
  36 hours
  to avoid being prodded and eventually replaced.
  
• Standard majority-only elimination mechanics.
  
• Mafia have daytalk.

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Conduct

1. Don't use
   this color
   , it's my color.
   
2. Play to win.
   
3. Don't discuss the game outside of the game until it's over.
   
4. Don't flame. Don't harass. Don't use insults that target minority, disadvantaged, or legally protected classes.
   
5. Keep interpersonal disputes out of the game thread.
   
6. Don't quote or misquote private communications from the moderator.
   
7. Don't use encryption, tiny/hidden/unreadable text, or anything that could be easily confused for such.
   
8. All replacement requests will be taken as serious, irrevocable, and immediate. Once you request replacement you are no longer a player and may not post.
   
9. Don't game the rules, pretend to break the rules, or intentionally test the limits. All pretended violations will be dealt with identically to actual violations.
   
10. Don't break the rules of any other ongoing game in this thread.
    
11. Don't argue moderator actions in the game thread. If you want to dispute a ruling, do so via PM.

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Game mechanics

Day

• Day 1 begins with a deadline of
  240 hours
  (10 days); all subsequent days begin with a deadline of
  168 hours
  (7 days).
  
• Days will end when one of the following events occurs:
  • The deadline is reached.
    
  • An
    elimination
    or
    no-elimination
    is achieved.
    
  • A town-aligned player is modkilled.
• Votes should be made via the vote tag: “vote” or “v”. Full player names or initial segments thereof are preferred.
  
• When more than half of living players are voting for the same player, that player will be eliminated and the day will end. Votes are irrevocable once a majority is achieved.
  
• You may vote not to eliminate anyone by voting for “No elimination”. When half or more of living players do so, the day will end without an elimination.
  
• If the day reaches deadline without a majority, there will be no elimination.
  
• I will interpret malformed votes according to my own discretion. In general, if it looks like a vote, I will probably count it as a vote. I reserve the right to edit malformed votes for easier counting.
  
• When a majority vote has been achieved but not yet recognized by the moderator, the game is in
  twilight
  . Players, including the eliminated player, may continue to post during this period.
  
• Under certain circumstances I may elect to extend the deadline. I will announce this in thread if it occurs.

Night

• Nights will last
  48 hours
  , or until all living players give me their approval to end the night early.
  
• During the night, you should be unable to post in the public game thread. If for some reason you are able, doing so is still against the rules.
  
• Mafia night abilities should be submitted in the Mafia's private thread. Factional kills must specify which mafioso carries out the kill.
  
• Town night abilities should be submitted via PM.
  
• Use of active night abilities is optional unless otherwise specified in the role PM; if no action is submitted, no action will occur.

Win conditions

• All Town players have the following win condition: “You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.”
  
• All Mafia players have the following win condition: “You win when the Mafia is the sole surviving faction, or when nothing can prevent this.”

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Activity requirements

• Players who do not confirm within
  48 hours
  of receiving their role PM will be replaced.
  
• Players who do not post any game-related content for
  36 hours
  in a single game-day will incur a prod.
  
• Players who do not post any game-related content for
  24 hours
  following a prod will be replaced.
  
• Players who incur three prods will be replaced.
  
• “Prod dodges” (posts with no game-related content) will be disregarded for purposes of the prod timer. If you must prod-dodge, include at least some minimal game-related content in the post.
  
• If for any reason you are temporarily unable to meet these requirements, you may declare V/LA status
  in thread
  and be excused. V/LA declarations must include a definite end date.
  
• Notwithstanding V/LA status, any player who does not post at all for
  5 days
  of consecutive day time will be replaced.
  
• These are minimal requirements, not recommendations; please keep the game active. At my discretion I may prod and eventually replace players who I judge are not making a good faith effort to participate.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Setup information

This game uses the NewD3 setup, designed by RadiantCowbells.

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a

Mafia Goon

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[humaneatingmonkey]

DAY 1

VOTE COUNT 1.0

The metro might be crowded by day, but tonight the streets are only sparsely littered. Manila's indoors - tuning in to the latest drama. Haven't you heard? "The Maharlika Scandal." An epic title for an epic story.

Walk around the streets and you'll hear broadcasts about the nine board members of the Maharlika Investment Corporation, a corporation created by the government to manage our sovereign wealth fund. The recipe was simple: print money from the central bank, invest in the right places, and voilà, prosperity for the Filipino people.

But today, the nine board members aren't famous for bringing prosperity. A rat blew the whistle about an overseas shell company. As it turns out, a significant portion of our funds flowed into this company like water through a drain pipe. There are records of money transfers between other ghost companies that mysteriously appear and disappear, cleverly timed to receive this money.

Usually, statements are released then... not much happens. People get bored — there's always another big drama. But right now, it's the election period. Heads need to roll.

A senate hearing has been called in to investigate two aliases: the owner of the overseas shell company and the signature authorizing the money transfers. Fully-televised. Live broadcast. Everyone's watching.

That's where I'll be, setting the cameras up.

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Wayward Son has (expired on 2023-07-22 15:00:00) to confirm or he will be replaced.

Not Voting (9):

MikhailTal, ender, Maduisha, SmileyDude1, Keria, Starfire, iamveryhappy, Wayward Son, Political Clout

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-07-31 15:00:00)

[iamveryhappy]

first

[iamveryhappy]

Good morning, I'm town.
If you don't know me, I should introduce myself.
"Hi, it's me! Universal punching bag! Use me to gain towncred!" -clems
My username is iamveryhappy, iavh for short.
How I got my username: a ironical statement of how I feel
I have a total of 3 losses on this site. I am so good.
This is also because I joined 7 games and this has not even finished. (50% winrate)
Now for some of my playstyle introduction.
I either play really aggressively or very passively, no in between.
The playstyle changes really quickly.
How people say I play: Any one of towny town, towny scum, scummy town, scummy scum.
I am a CM. It stands for contradiction master.
I hate walls of text because they are hard to read.
I buckle under pressure.
Shitposting is one of my specialities.
I think this is all I have to say.
Oh wait, no. Kindle is my main choice of communication which is very sad, I follow GMT +8 time zone.
VOTE: MikhailTal I like Hikaru >:)

[ender]

hello all. i'm a returning player (last game here was like 7 years ago) and decided to start fresh with a new account. i can see there have been several rule and policy and meta changes since i left so i may take some time to settle in.

@mod

- i'm on V/LA through Aug 1 but i expect to have availability to post at least every other day.

for now here's an RVS vote to get things going.

VOTE: SmileyDude1
what are you smiling about?

[Wayward Son]

Happy reminds me of Eeyore.

VOTE: Happy

[Wayward Son]

@ ender I've just come back from a long hiatus. Lots of things confused me after coming back.

Are you saying you're gonna post every other day?

[iamveryhappy]

Wdym I remind you of Eeyore? I don't wanna be a winnie the pooh character.

[Keria]

hi guys! i'm fairly new to forum mafia but i have played some on a different site and i play in person sometimes, though that is a very different experience lol

VOTE: Wayward Son

[Wayward Son]

@ Keria I prefer IRL Mafia games, but with time our group drifted apart. The remnants are trying to teach me Magic. Sometimes I feel like they're making the rules up as we go! I need more time playing, I guess?

Welcome!

[iamveryhappy]

speaking of irl mafia everyone just looks so scummy I can't push someone without getting asked about the mafia jargon lol

[MikhailTal]

let's start this game with a side-game of

hot

and

cold

. every other player gets one guess as to who my mason partner is today. It'll work like Guess Who - you can either guess the name, or state an observation as fact. the extremes listed in colour earlier are as specific as i'll get but i'll tell you if your guess is colder or warmer than the previous person's.

MikhailTal's slot is a mason.

Hot

.

[MikhailTal]

oh, right, as for the stakes - closest (or first to get the exact name of my mason partner) unconditionally buys my vote tomorrow.

[Wayward Son]

oh, right, as for the stakes - closest (or first to get the exact name of my mason partner) unconditionally buys my vote tomorrow.

Sounds fun, is it Starfire??

[MikhailTal]

Sounds fun, is it Starfire??
[/quote]

Colder

.

[Wayward Son]

How's your Mason partner feeling about your gambit? You did discuss it with them (I hope). cough!

[SmileyDude1]

Hello everyone,
VOTE: Maduisha
Icebreaker question: How much experience do you guys have in Mafia

This is my 2nd game of forum mafia ever, my main experience outside of that is that I occasionally mod IRL games with family. Before I joined, I was a lurker around these forums before hand so I think I got a decent handle on the lingo around here.

[MikhailTal]

Hello everyone,
VOTE: Maduisha
Icebreaker question: How much experience do you guys have in Mafia

This is my 2nd game of forum mafia ever, my main experience outside of that is that I occasionally mod IRL games with family. Before I joined, I was a lurker around these forums before hand so I think I got a decent handle on the lingo around here.

we (as a DID collective) are as new as you are to this site. my personal thoughts are that experience doesn't mean much in mafia until you're a somewhat known presence, as critical thinking and a willingness to study can easily account for most common concepts, and a consequence of everyone being unique is that everyone also needs to be viewed with a unique perspective. it's hard to know for sure because of amnesia issues but at a guess, we've been playing for around 14 years? all types, from online to offline, text to voice to in-person, 1 minute days to 1 month days. my suspicion is that it's easily crossed over 10000 hours of dedicated playtime but focusing on an accurate lower-bound i'll say 7500.

[MikhailTal]

How's your Mason partner feeling about your gambit? You did discuss it with them (I hope). cough!

it was an intuitive sacrifice and i intend to prove i have sufficient compensation for it.

[Maduisha]

Hi, I'm a returning player! I played uhh... 3 or 4 games a long time ago, I don't remember anymore. Anyways, I'm gonna visit a friend over the weekend, but I'm sure I'll still be able to post at least once a day, if not more! I try to be active in games I'm in.

VOTE: iamveryhappy cause he's way too happy, kinda sus ngl.

[Wayward Son]

If you don't count Clue, my first experience with a Mafia type game was at a local Community Center. They'd feed us a 5 course meal, giving us clues (with each course) as to who did the dirty deed. If we figured out who dunnit, we won. If not, we were fed good, at least!

They called it "Murder Mystery Dinner".

[Starfire]

Howdie y'all

VOTE: Keria

That's too close to Kira and I watched Deathnote recently