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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:44 am

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dead players may chit chat here...!
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:47 am

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I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:50 am

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I think I played this poorly but my team isn't in that bad of a position here
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:51 am

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very excited to see this team play a long game
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:52 am

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i guess excited isn't exactly the right word lol. it will be mediumly interesting for a long time
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:53 am

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Yeah I'm definitely invested! My scum winning streak is in the hands of my buddies now
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:14 pm

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Spoiler: Don't click this unless you want to know one of my scumbuddies
T3's idea of sheeping him on Titus was awful and I regret not pushing back on that. That might be the death of us this game :lol:

My fault for not trusting my gut and being like "nah" though
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:35 pm

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In post 1307, Afrayed Knott wrote: I really hope that you understand I am not that gifted. and from how easy I read Black, in two games now, neither is she.
:lol:

Fuck you bro, check the stats
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:53 pm

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In post 1401, Titus wrote:
In post 1385, JupiterXV wrote: also it's ironic the scum queen got limmed day one
No. She didn't. The scum princess did.
Titus is really salty about the Scum Queen joke :lol:
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:32 pm

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almost positive i would be townreading both wolves personally
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:32 pm

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tommy edmannn where are you
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:12 pm

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one has to laugh
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:51 pm

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WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS GAME

This is like a really good TV show before binging was a thing. I'm dying to know what happens next but I'm gonna have to wait until next week :lol:
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:11 am

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Titus is wrong about
a lot
of things regarding me and my motivations
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:25 am

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Spoiler: Last remaining teammate spoiled here
IN JUPITER WE TRUST!!!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:28 am

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In post 360, T3 wrote: No kill every night until you know who doctor is

To find doctor, push everyone in the PoE hard
well, you should input a kill on titus every night.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:30 am

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I think killing Titus N1 was the correct play but I understand the fear of the Doc being there probably altered that
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:27 am

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this scenario is one of the few slightly interesting strategical questions for scum, i think i agree that you just want to play it as a nightless game although obviously if you correctly kill the doctor at any point that makes things way easier. for example, if you are just utterly convinced you can't play a long game like this, you might as well start firing from the hip right away

i think that the wolf always loses if the doctor happens to be the last or second-to-last person they sort. at final 4, the doctor can claim which is winning regardless of whether the wolf CC's because they go into night with only one viable wolf left whom titus can block. on the other hand the third wolf gets endgamed instantly as soon as they aim for the doctor and miss two times. it's surprisingly hard to concretely think through the risk/value of each attempted shot at a doctor, at different points in the game. there's a lot of situations where there's like the weird jailkeeper-doc 50/50 where if they are both claimed, the jailkeeper can flip a coin to decide whether they protect the doctor which means that it's not a sure bet to kill either target
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:58 am

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dont think i mentioned this: the doctor healed ower night 1 because they thought he was the jailkeeper. lol. another thing i think i've thus far failed to acknowledge is that the wolves had like the unluckiest night actions that this setup allows for
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:06 am

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In post 18, schadd_ wrote: dont think i mentioned this: the doctor healed ower night 1 because they thought he was the jailkeeper. lol. another thing i think i've thus far failed to acknowledge is that the wolves had like the unluckiest night actions that this setup allows for
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 am

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In post 17, schadd_ wrote: this scenario is one of the few slightly interesting strategical questions for scum
it's also slightly interesting what you would try to do if the jailkeeper was outed and all the wolves were alive (or even two of them). i think there's probably still merit to the plan of "no killing" (i.e. aiming at the jailer every night).

incidentally, it's a fairly clear blunder to no-kill especially tonight, where it's not clear who titus is targeting or whether her target wolud be the doctor. in this case it doesn't matter, she is targeting kurtapika, who is probably her most obvious target and is not the doctor, and the doctor is healing her. but i'd still like to see if the wolf puzzles this out
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 15, schadd_ wrote:
In post 360, T3 wrote: No kill every night until you know who doctor is

To find doctor, push everyone in the PoE hard
well, you should input a kill on titus every night.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:40 am

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In post 6, Black wrote:
Spoiler: Don't click this unless you want to know one of my scumbuddies
T3's idea of sheeping him on Titus was awful and I regret not pushing back on that. That might be the death of us this game :lol:

My fault for not trusting my gut and being like "nah" though
It was a terrible idea. I genuinely just thought that it might be funny and interesting
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:42 am

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I shouldn't have done it. I can't even really blame you because I easily could have said no :lol:

It was definitely a huge swing in the town's favor
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:47 am

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In post 21, T3 wrote:
In post 15, schadd_ wrote:
In post 360, T3 wrote: No kill every night until you know who doctor is

To find doctor, push everyone in the PoE hard
well, you should input a kill on titus every night.
:yawn:
i mean you just get titus for free about 1/10th of the time tonight if you do it, and any other night where she doesn't announce her jail target in advance. maybe there's some moments where she says "ok, i'm going to jail x" where x is the doctor and they think they should just stay quiet in case it all works out (which is a bad idea, but less obvious). and of course the doctor might try to hero save someone else which is an obvious bad idea especially when it's clear scum are no-killing but still possible lol
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