Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
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VOTE: ElementsIn post 75, Elements wrote: BloopWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It's a so-far-unsuccessful attempt at behavior modification via negative stimulus.
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In short, yes it's something I do often. There are multiple levels to the question, and asking it that way might reveal whether there is unconscious bias to focus on (or not focus on) different people.In post 180, Keyleth wrote: Well, I wouldn't be that harsh over it I just was curious if dave is the type of person to really dig into a causal question like that early.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm too late to be the first one to bring up that questioning Elements over apparently getting Dunn and me confused seems pretty nit picky. To me jumping on a "slip" is scum more often than town. Not enough to make a read from but worth remembering.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 247, Jingle wrote: Elements (E-6): Black, Elements, davesaz,Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I have what I hope is only a head cold. I may not be as energetic as usual. The night-time so you can rest medicine made me wired instead of sleepy so I feel like I've been in a centrifuge for hours.
I have a soft spot for effort. Those are some good observations on Guillotina. I think my kneejerk townlean on that slot may not be warranted.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In case you aren't familiar with them, "BooneyToonz" games (of which that is an example) tend to be a bit more extreme than anything else on site.In post 589, Guillotina wrote:
What in the bloody bastard fuck is that setup, everyone are millers!In post 588, Gamma Emerald wrote: viewtopic.php?p=13977342#p13977342
Full setup of the game I linked earlier
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Someone had CSF as strong town, apparently because of 536.
That isn't a bad post but in isolation it wouldn't be difficult to fake, so I'd question awarding a read based on it.
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What I was thinking about was this post, but I don't know if Keyleth has said why. Someone else quoted the CSF post that caught my eye.In post 564, Keyleth wrote: Kyouko, Kawaii, and CSF have the most points I should add. So if anyone has suspicions on those slots I'd love to talk them over with you.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Just saying most / least points without any kind of backing feels really shallow and arbitrary to me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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From this I think that Broccoli and Gamma are both a little right in their recent back and forth.In post 526, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 518, Gamma Emerald wrote: Tf makes you think I’d want a Guillo wagon? I’ve asked some questions of him but I do that with townreads a lot.I don't think you want a Guillo wagon particularly, I just think you'd make a nice addition to the townblock I haven't started forming yet but which would theoretically include me, you, Elements and another person or two.
I'll take this as a "no thank you", then.
Though that probably means you are town anyway.
It is somewhat manipulative to say that not conforming would mean not being in the townblock.
It is lessened by saying Gamma's probably town anyway.
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Isn't that a bad thing? Why would you like a style that lets scum hide?In post 651, Elements wrote: I like Keyleth's playstyle
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VOTE: ssbm_kyoukoIn post 675, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: No bloops
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I'm seeing who goes apeshit one way or the other and who ignores it. The actual material to read people from on d1 is always thin, and this game is no exception.In post 677, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Not necessarily all of them no; I think it's expected that there will be people that have gripes with your playstyle. I just think Dave's gripes are coming from scum though - not to say he wouldn't feel the same about your play as town, but he isn't doing anything about it, and it doesn't seem like he's doing much of anything else either. His one thing is that your playstyle is easy to fake as scum, but he's not otherwise making pushes elsewhere or on you. Feels like that's his "I'm doing something" and it's a safe "something" to do as well because your playstyle is easy to fake as scumWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Got a decent night's sleep, but now it's a work day.In post 512, davesaz wrote: I have what I hope is only a head cold. I may not be as energetic as usual. The night-time so you can rest medicine made me wired instead of sleepy so I feel like I've been in a centrifuge for hours.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In some respects, both.In post 686, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
By "it" you mean your posting about Keyleth? or Keyleth's playstyle? Both?In post 683, davesaz wrote:
I'm seeing who goes apeshit one way or the other and who ignoresIn post 677, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Not necessarily all of them no; I think it's expected that there will be people that have gripes with your playstyle. I just think Dave's gripes are coming from scum though - not to say he wouldn't feel the same about your play as town, but he isn't doing anything about it, and it doesn't seem like he's doing much of anything else either. His one thing is that your playstyle is easy to fake as scum, but he's not otherwise making pushes elsewhere or on you. Feels like that's his "I'm doing something" and it's a safe "something" to do as well because your playstyle is easy to fake as scumit. The actual material to read people from on d1 is always thin, and this game is no exception.
More generally, who responds to my posting and how, and do those I post about seem to care or adjust.
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You'd be surprised how many peopleIn post 672, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: 640 bothered me because it was so "mediator-ish" without really adding anything thoughtful. I think we could all see both sides, even if personally we would agree with Gamma or with BQ2: Electric Boogaloo. I don't think it's hard to see that Gamma felt the behavior was manipulative and also that BQ2 did not mean it in that way (or at least says he didn't, which feeds more into it feeling manipulative to Gamma)
And it felt like he had not posted in a while so I went back to see when he posted last and what happened.don'tsee both sides. In particular though, the two participants who clearly aren't seeing what the other is thinking.
If I can stop a tunnel by making the two participants see how they are failing to connect, I save the game from having to slog through that. It is pro-town to deobfuscate, and part of my personality as a dad and for other reasons.So since it's apparent what the situation is, why post at all? 640 feels like a long post about... nothing.
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Quote things and say what you think about them would be a good start. More than just like or don't like. For me to evaluate your alignment (or anyone's) I need to know if what you say makes sense given the events, and that's pretty well impossible without a fair amount of because clauses.In post 689, Keyleth wrote: Is there uh, anything I can do to help dave?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It seems my failure to reply after going to sleep was construed as lack of followup by some. Let's remedy that.In post 654, Elements wrote:
I can appreciate the desire to keep one's reads close to the chestIn post 652, davesaz wrote:
Isn't that a bad thing? Why would you like a style that lets scum hide?In post 651, Elements wrote: I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum
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eek, yellow text on sepia. I can tell something is there but have to hilight it to even tell it's text.
I think that case is pretty weak at best, and maybe even a bit opportunistic.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You could have not done that and let me just get the natural. Plus is Elements even here rn?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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More generally, would anyone stew over a wagon they're pushing on someone else? How does that yield anything AI in either direction?
I would think that stewed wagon would be very tough and chewy.
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I don't think Celebloki has had a single post that wasn't about RN, which is more than a little suspicious.
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I did look fairly quickly (it's a work day) -- if I'm wrong please feel free to point something out.In post 718, Black wrote:
This is a better reason than the safe RVS vote stuff but it doesn't appear to be true. It's a little odd that you looked at Celebloki's ISO and came to this conclusionIn post 715, davesaz wrote: I don't think Celebloki has had a single post that wasn't about RN, which is more than a little suspicious.
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trivial, not AIIn post 121, Celebloki wrote: Elements is a champion baffler for sure.
I'm not inclined to vote for the millers. I think I agree with Gamma's take.
I could count this as a post.In post 122, Celebloki wrote:
Kyouko claimed miller in her opening post too, it seems unfair to say her claim is illegitimate just because Dunn got to the game first. Not everyone can have the opening post of a game.In post 113, KawaiiKame wrote:
I feel Duun's claim is genuine, millers often claim miller in their opening posts. Duun's miller claim feels straight up, unlikely that mafia plays this directly. Kyouko feels real/potentially opportunistic, shielding herself behind the initial miller claim if she is mafiaIn post 98, Black wrote: I'm not sure. Dunn's claim felt like a joke with it being the first post of the game. Kyouko's feels more real but I'm not familiar enough with her to tell if it's coming from scum
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True but how does it progress the game?In post 198, Celebloki wrote:In post 168, Hu Tao wrote:
So scum will not target me and I can last till end game. I believe in myself to find scum as long as I'm alive long enough. Now I just need to be towny enough to not be voted out. I've eliminated half of the work.In post 61, TimmerRC wrote:
I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.In post 14, Hu Tao wrote: VT
You understand why it's generally anti-town to openly claim VT though, right?
Does this progress the game?In post 199, Celebloki wrote: It seems like some people are being overly-critical, but maybe it's just people eager to get the game out of an RVS mindset.
I'd have to look at 217 to know whether this is related to RN or not, but suspect it is.In post 436, Celebloki wrote: And I guess follow-up question, why do you think Kyouko voted me and quoted 217?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I think my observation is much stronger than the RVS vote thing. I wouldn't put any priority on that kind of thinking at all.
Neither one is strong in terms of raw numbers. It's like rand+1% for the RVS thing and rand+10% for the lack of engagement thing.
I don't even know if Celebloki is the best candidate for this metric. See argument, research, find something better, lay a vote to see what having a *wagon* does.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Dunnstral is not doing the things that usually cause me to incorrectly scum read him. I don't have enough data to know if inverting the meta is the right thing to do but it's a mild scumlean.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm slapping people who intentionally pagetop.In post 776, Dunnstral wrote: 681 is weird because it's written out like an rvs voteWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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This is at least the 3rd game I've done that since hiatus.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You're the next scumlean I wanted to vote.In post 793, Dunnstral wrote: OK. So what made you vote for me?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I made a post about you. I didn't elaborate because I didn't want to seem to be offensive, but when town you tend to push a lot of questionable theories that make very little sense.In post 796, Dunnstral wrote: davesaz, do you remember 4 hours ago when you made this post?
In light of this post, do you think it is fair to say that you are not following your own standards for others as written above?In post 693, davesaz wrote:
Quote things and say what you think about them would be a good start. More than just like or don't like. For me to evaluate your alignment (or anyone's) I need to know if what you say makes sense given the events, and that's pretty well impossible without a fair amount of because clauses.In post 689, Keyleth wrote: Is there uh, anything I can do to help dave?
I had a similar aha moment in a recent game about someone else who happens to be in this game, and flipping that person's meta turned out to be spot on as a scumtell, at least in that game.
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If you had joined 6 days later we'd be mirrors.In post 800, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Using this pagetop to announce dave's scumday is my birthdayWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Not exactly, but it's the right game.In post 805, Dunnstral wrote:
Are you referring to this post?In post 801, davesaz wrote: but when town you tend to push a lot of questionable theories that make very little sense.
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Thanks, I was having trouble thinking of words that I could use to describe my reaction.In post 806, TimmerRC wrote:
Not loving this idea, it seems a little too guide-the-townies-to-their-death to me.In post 719, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:I would like to propose a plan:
Every person list 2-4 people they are sure are town with higher than 90% certainty.
Then we make a pool of 4-5 people who never get voted today.
Then we just wagon a random person who's not in the pool, and repeat the same tomorrow. If the reads are accurate, that gives 33% chance to hit scum each day, or about 60% chance to to succeed on either.
My 2 are Gamma and Nurse btw.
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Putting that a little differently -- yeah the 1st link is an example of the general type of thing, the 2nd link is evidence that this isn't the first situation where I've used that technique.In post 809, davesaz wrote:
Not exactly, but it's the right game.In post 805, Dunnstral wrote:
Are you referring to this post?In post 801, davesaz wrote: but when town you tend to push a lot of questionable theories that make very little sense.
This post is where I had the epiphany I'm referring to, about a different player in that game.
It's kinda hard to prove the negative, and it's not an invitation to go off in the weeds to get me to TR you.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I don't think things that gut ping me are useful to others.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It's only useful if Gamma is scum here, and if she doesn't change to avoid the tell. So far Gamma in this game has been matching up well with previous town meta.In post 812, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: This is kinda just rhetorical because I'm pretty sure if you were town you should have shared since Gamma was scum in that gameWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I would dislike that specific approach (doing any kind of reads based on whether people flake upon seeing role pm) coming from anyone.In post 814, Dunnstral wrote: So. I know you didn't like that when I posted it, but are you aware that in hindsight, It turned out that my theory was correct?
I wrote that between two replacements, one had received their initial role pm and then manually replaced out, rather than both replacements being due to not picking up any pms. One of those slots happened to be mafia, and there is a record of them posting in their pt in between the two pms.
My point is you're framing me as someone who proposes theories thatdon't make sense. However, when I linked you to atheory that was correct, you say that it is an example of what you are talking about. You did have a seemingly strong personal dislike of my post at the time, I'm perhaps sensing a personal bias here. I don't suppose you are saying that I open up every town game with a theory?
There is more nuance to the meta than a single example can convey. The technique I'm trying to use goes roughly like: player does things that I don't like; I scumread them; they're usually town when this happens and scum when it doesn't; I start looking for an absence of things I don't like. I have no idea whether this is going to work or not. It only applies to people I'm always getting spectacularly wrong.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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From 2+ years ago?In post 831, Dunnstral wrote: Let me guess, you won't provide any examples on your own?
I have a mental list of people I can't read because they postweird shitstuff I have to work at really hard to partially understand. Finding examples isn't the top thing on my list of things to do.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Determine the alignments of as many players as possible.In post 837, Dunnstral wrote: I have to wonder what is on the top of your list of things to do this game, davesaz.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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To me, resistance is an active process. By that definition I'd say it's overstated.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The concept is a fine one. Do you have background with Naerys to know what to expect? Any other slots who you think would benefit from more content, perhaps ones who are present more recently / reliably?In post 847, Guillotina wrote: I'm asking why is there no help to pressure the slot into giving us more content? Why am I not getting support for that?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You feel a lot different from this game where it turned out scum were leading a wagon on you.
Naerys + mod iso, day 3 is relevantWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Self evaluate: pushed in that game from a place that had reasoning, or just pushed? What do your reasons, if any, look like here?In post 872, Hu Tao wrote: pushed hard on someone day 1
The post you quoted on/near the initial vote was Naerys saying that she TRd me and the 2 millers.
Also don't remember if I asked this -- would being a first voter but basically doing nothing since until the last few hours really be "leading"? I don't know if that's the actual situation or not, other than to say I certainly don't remember seeing anything I'd call leadership.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Having the two largest wagons of the entire day be almost completely disjoint is not giving me any good feelings.
I can't spend time right at bedtime to run this down, with a 7am meeting that I'm a leader for. It will be 2.5 days or less the next time I do have time.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If you take the two posts together though, the first one says "without reasoning" and the second one says "like this".In post 875, Hu Tao wrote: All naerys said is she's never seen me push on someone day 1. So just saying it's not accurate
I did not read d1 of that game closely (I replaced in and immediately had to drop into PR mode vs detailed replace mode) so don't know if there were reasons.
I'm interested in your reasoning here independent of whether you think Naerys cares about that.
I'm not sure if you're trying to duck on purpose, but if you are it feels like a wrong reason defense to me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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At the points of the mod's VC's, mostly different people.In post 884, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 876, davesaz wrote: Having the two largest wagons of the entire day be almost completely disjoint is not giving me any good feelings.
I can't spend time right at bedtime to run this down, with a 7am meeting that I'm a leader for. It will be 2.5 days or less the next time I do have time.What do you mean by disjoint?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The iso link I posted is one such example.In post 923, Guillotina wrote:
Can someone here other than Naerys confirm this?In post 904, Naerys wrote: Plus the fact that i tend to be used as a limbait by scum.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I don't think Naerys is doing that as much as she did in recent games.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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936 is impressively bulky. I don't think the tl/dr is supported by the body.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 942, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Doing what as much? Not clear what you're replying toIn post 935, davesaz wrote: I don't think Naerys is doing that as much as she did in recent games.In post 931, Black wrote:I like her thoughts and I feel like she's trying to figure out people's alignments
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First, to be perfectly clear. I don't think the body of that post supports the tl/dr irrespective of my reads on the players. It seems very much what like one of my old professors called proof by intimidation.In post 943, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Also do you disagree with one or both halves of the tl;dr?In post 940, davesaz wrote: 936 is impressively bulky. I don't think the tl/dr is supported by the body.
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I don't see Naerys being towny prior to the wagon on her, and her reaction to the wagon is very different to her reaction from previous games where she was town.
I don't have a strong feeling on Hu Tao.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If you're saying you just haven't snapped yet in this one, that could be a point.In post 967, Naerys wrote:
I personally dont agree with this.I get easily frustrated and then i either start yelling or do something stupid.In post 965, davesaz wrote: I don't see Naerys being towny prior to the wagon on her, and her reaction to the wagon is very different to her reaction from previous games where she was town.
If the lack of being proactive at questioning and pushing to determine alignments is why you're limbaity, then try to fix that. Like someone said a day or two ago if you don't want to be limmed then find someone else who should be.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I tried to get an actual conclusion from the body and didn't get anything.In post 982, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: It feels to me like you are being vague about this.
It's a bunch of facts (which I haven't verified) but I don't see you saying what you think it means.
I'm a very logic oriented person so a point/analysis structure would make more sense.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The activity page shows how many posts in this game, not on site.In post 1004, TimmerRC wrote:So you must know how pointing out my post count looks as a retort? It isn't all about post totals, it's about what you do with the posts you can make. Wasn't it you who Broccoli called out to talk about anything in the game not related to yourself, and here you are still, sorry, being petulant?
Neither of you are very high activity in the game.
I agree that it's what you do with the posts which matters more. I'd rather have 30 content posts than 30 empty pagetops.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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SusIn post 1023, Black wrote:In post 1018, Hu Tao wrote: Also I'm posting this for post game. Let this be the game I quote for people to stop trying to meta read me.
What's your full claim?In post 1019, Hu Tao wrote: I got hammered with that last vote. I was town pr. Congrats. Have fun in the game without me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I think this claim is scum trying to get info. From experience as partner with Hu Tao it feels very likely.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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