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Hey, me too! You want to be my VT buddy?
Also can't believe I rolled scum on this alt, this means I have to use red instead of green. Who's ever heard of a RED broccoli, c'mon?Even my signature is green :)-
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Hello 2 you 2, stranger
Do you expect me to have reads or something?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 474, Elements wrote: I did it purely for the jokeOh well I'm offended then! I thought you cared what I thought, smh.
Anyway I am too lazy to pretend to have real reads at this point, so here are my fake reads:
elements - town
naerys - town
black - town
gamma - town
davesaz - null
RN - town
dunn - scum
everyone else - i dunno
If you have any questions about these reads, feel free to ask and I will probably be forced to put some more effort into reading the game and then give you an answer.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 438, Celebloki wrote: UNVOTE:
At this point I can say I heavily town read RN, at least until I develop a different meta for him.Don't you have any scumreads though?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: What's the basis of scum!Dunn?You caught me, that was the one read that was 80% fake
the reason for the 20% probably has to do more with his playstyle than his alignment, but I just felt his posts had a tone which doesn't feel towny to me.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 482, Gamma Emerald wrote: I don’t fully believe in this but might as well see Loki’s responseThis but like, my conviction is lacking ten times as much as gamma's.
Still, wagoning a null early Day 1 is not a horrible idea.
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In post 485, Elements wrote: Aren't we like, halfway through the phase?Oh are we? Then I might do a read of the game later and see if I can find a non-fake scumread to push.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 496, Elements wrote: We could get an actual wagon going if join us thoughI mean, if you, me and Gamma all vote Guillo we can also have an actual wagon. I don't have a read on Cele. I have a conflicted read on Guillo. Sounds like the better option.
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@Nurse are you voting Elly because she didn't answer why she liked Gamma early?
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@Nurse are you voting Elly because she didn't answer why she liked Gamma early?
@Elly could you answer Nurse so he stops voting you?
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In post 503, Elements wrote: I don't remember what or when Nurse asked meWell:
In post 226, Random Nurse wrote:In post 34, Elements wrote:
I like thisIn post 33, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
You can be town too, for now
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...I don't recall you answering Dave's question.I *think* this is why Nurse is voting you, even though later he claimed it was aimed at dunn (that does make sense when Dave asked Dunn and not you), so I am actually not sure what's the rationale of voting you here.Even my signature is green :)-
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Wait did two distinct people get confused with Dunn this game?
I guess this means Nurse isn't scum with Dunn or Elements, and Elements isn't scum with Dunn or Dave. Wow! Me Me Big Brain.
Plot twist: scum team is exactly dunn/dave/elements/nurseEven my signature is green :)-
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In post 518, Gamma Emerald wrote: Tf makes you think I’d want a Guillo wagon? I’ve asked some questions of him but I do that with townreads a lot.I don't think you want a Guillo wagon particularly, I just think you'd make a nice addition to the townblock I haven't started forming yet but which would theoretically include me, you, Elements and another person or two.
I'll take this as a "no thank you", then.
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Oh well.
@Nurse, since Gamma doesn't want in on the townblock, what do you say about being the third member? It's only a temporary block to get the game going, you don't have to commit to it for the length of the entire game.
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In post 521, Guillotina wrote: Brocoli's entrance screamed "Come, I want attention", which in my opinion is townie cause scum don't do that, they try to blend in.Hi guillo! It's good to know you TR me. Can you explain to me your reads on Kawaii and Naerys?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 522, Guillotina wrote:
Anything I can do to help you clear out that conflict?In post 499, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 496, Elements wrote: We could get an actual wagon going if join us thoughI mean, if you, me and Gamma all vote Guillo we can also have an actual wagon. I don't have a read on Cele. I have a conflicted read on Guillo. Sounds like the better option.
VOTE: GuilloProbably just play the game and be towny, but talking about your reads would be immensely helpful.
Pedit: okay I am going to read your wallpost now.Even my signature is green :)-
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Actually I started reading your wallpost and my main conclusion is you probably come from an era of mafia where scum did very little distancing, if you actually rule out Kyoko/Guillo and all the various Elements pairings. I have seen mafia do more convoluted distancing with my own eyes.
Still, I don't think mafia!Guillo has incentive to make such a post. So uh, UNVOTE: GuilloEven my signature is green :)-
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In post 533, Naerys wrote:
Broccoli is awful vegetable, which i dont like, so nope.In post 527, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:Oh well.
@Nurse, since Gamma doesn't want in on the townblock, what do you say about being the third member? It's only a temporary block to get the game going, you don't have to commit to it for the length of the entire game.
Same for @NaerysI'm delighted to hear that you judge me by my color and species and NOT by my behavior. That's truly the best way to judge people.
In other news, now that I'm not voting Guillo I need someone else to vote. Do you have any juicy scumreads?Even my signature is green :)-
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LOL I was in the middle of writing a post about how I guess I'm kinda okay with voting either CSF or Keyleth (yeah I know LHF etc etc but c'mon everyone else is not exactly scummy), and then 538 dropped. DAMN.
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In post 552, Dunnstral wrote: This is a weird post. Acknowledges it is based on playstyle and is very vague... it doesn't actually say or explain anything.My kind sir, let me explain:
I think your tone is one that comes more often than random from scum. Probably like 60% of the time. I'm referring to, specifically, the complete lack of interest in any fluff and the overly trying hard attitude. Still, it's possible it's just your playstyle. I don't really care because I don't have any other reason to scumread you right now. K.In post 567, Gamma Emerald wrote: This feels manipulative
I fail to see how calling you town over not wanting to do what I hoped you would do is somehow an attempt to control or influence you. Unless you think I am trying to manipulate you into NOT being in a town core with Elements and me, which is frankly preposterous (I like it!)Merriam-Webster's Dictionary wrote:Manipulative: serving or intended to control or influence others in an artful and often unfair or selfish wayEven my signature is green :)-
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UNVOTE: Keyleth
In post 624, Guillotina wrote: Did you actually not know the meaning of being manipulative so that you had to look it up in the dictionary and post it here for reference?Of course I don't know what manipulative means. I also don't know what mafia means, or voting.
I supplied the definition for ease of reference so that when I say I wasn't attempting to control or influence, it would be clear that this is what manipulation means.
PEDIT: wtf has bullying has to do with it? I am LITERALLY saying you are fucking TOWN for not doing what I asked you to do. I didn't nag you to do it. I just stated matter of factly that I guess you don't want to do it, called you town for it, and moved on. HOLY SHIT.Even my signature is green :)-
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VOTE: KeylethIn post 626, Keyleth wrote: I like Gamma's post here They can get more points.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 648, Elements wrote: Gamma is feeling very much like Gamma!townOh she is, alright.
@Gamma listen I really don't care who or what you vote. Not being in a block is not a threat. A block is a group of people who trust each other and are willing to cooperate, and then vote together. If there's no trust then there's no block, it's as simple as that.
I think I would be willing to block with guillo for instance, even though I don't fully agree with his reads, but since right now nobody seems to see Keyleth and CSF scummy I'll just have to swallow my pride and do it.
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In post 651, Elements wrote: I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scumI personally think it's the latterEven my signature is green :)-
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Nurse, I saw your table. Do you have like 0 reads?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 672, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: 640 bothered me because it was so "mediator-ish" without really adding anything thoughtful. I think we could all see both sides, even if personally we would agree with Gamma or with BQ2: Electric Boogaloo. I don't think it's hard to see that Gamma felt the behavior was manipulative and also that BQ2 did not mean it in that way (or at least says he didn't, which feeds more into it feeling manipulative to Gamma)
And it felt like he had not posted in a while so I went back to see when he posted last and what happened.
So since it's apparent what the situation is, why post at all? 640 feels like a long post about... nothing.
And I didnt remember dave posting recently so I thought "hmm, I'm going to go back and check what has happened between 640 and the last time dave posted because that seems like a scummy "I'm not lurking" post to me. So I did... and while checking when he last posted I read Dave's ISO. It's mostly shading Keyleth, but not trying to start any pressure directly on her.
I think dave is slitherin' rn
VOTE: davesazFirst, while I get whatchu sayin, what exactly does davesaz gain from posting 640 as scum?
Second, I think the reason for making it as town is an attempt to diffuse a TvT. To me it looks like it worked, since Gamma is no longer voting me.
Additionally, I must emphasize that I believe that davesaz is town. I have read two of his scum games and he was extremely easy to spot as scum in both. He does not feel similar in this game.
In post 673, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Also Gamma feels like town here after that argument with BQ2. Could be TvT, but BQ2 is gimmicking so it's naturally harder to read his side of thingsIn post 674, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Like if he wasn't gimmicking I'm inclined to say that's TVTHow does my gimmicking affect your ability to read me? Can't you read through the gimmick?
Or differently put: what is town indicative about my play, and why is it not town indicative in light of having a gimmick?
As an aside, I dunno if you noticed but my pronouns are "they". So I would appreciate if you use them. Though I am aware that a certain type of users (colloquially known as "alt hunters") may derive immense pleasure from ascribing gender/sex characteristics to a broccoli. If you are one of them, please proceed with using "he".Even my signature is green :)-
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I would like to propose a plan:
Every person list 2-4 people they are sure are town with higher than 90% certainty.
Then we make a pool of 4-5 people who never get voted today.
Then we just wagon a random person who's not in the pool, and repeat the same tomorrow. If the reads are accurate, that gives 33% chance to hit scum each day, or about 60% chance to to succeed on either.
My 2 are Gamma and Nurse btw.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 720, Black wrote:
Nice plan, scumIn post 719, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:I would like to propose a plan:
Every person list 2-4 people they are sure are town with higher than 90% certainty.
Then we make a pool of 4-5 people who never get voted today.
Then we just wagon a random person who's not in the pool, and repeat the same tomorrow. If the reads are accurate, that gives 33% chance to hit scum each day, or about 60% chance to to succeed on either.
My 2 are Gamma and Nurse btw.???Even my signature is green :)-
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Celeb, may I offer a word of advice?Even my signature is green :)-
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If you want to be less scumread, STOP talking about how scummy or not scummy your RVS vote was, and start posting reads on OTHER players.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 742, Celebloki wrote: Also, I would love to stop talking about RN, but apparently the wagon on me revolves around my RVS vote on him and how I keep talking about him. Should I just ignore my wagon so I can stop talking about RN?YES
One. Hundred. Percent.
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In post 728, Elements wrote: CSF and GammaCurious about CSF btw. That's not someone I expected to see here.Even my signature is green :)-
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Broccoli wrote:I'd like to know who youtownreadHmmm...
In post 747, Black wrote: I don't think we are at the point in the game where we need to rally everyone to list off their top townreads. I also don't like your "wagon a random person who's not in the pool, rinse and repeat" suggestion on top of that. Feels really agenda drivenMaybe I should explain why I suggested that:
I feel this game is kinda going nowhere. Like most Day 1's, there are a bunch of viable wagons. Here I feel most wagons are like dead inside and no one really feels like they are being pressured, and also no wagon is especially attractive to me. So I think doing something different might be a good idea, regardless of whether that something different is an amazing strategy or just a meh strategy like mine.
What kind of agenda do you think this has? My only agenda is to actually get a serious wagon going on someone who is not consensus town so that reactions and reads happen, and more importantly, we get a flip and can start analyzing stuff.Even my signature is green :)-
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WHy is it scummy to want to know people's reads?
For example I would have wanted to wagon CSF or Keyleth (just outta PoE, not due to anything especially scummy), but it feels like people are implicitly TRing them, and then I feel demotivated to do anything about it because people are like "nah" but there was no explicit consensus TR before that. If we have consensus TRs I can start a wagon which I know could get support.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 752, Black wrote:
Yeah I meant to say townreadIn post 748, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: Hmmm...
Why is the Celebloki wagon not attractive to you?In post 748, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I feel this game is kinda going nowhere. Like most Day 1's, there are a bunch of viable wagons. Here I feel most wagons are like dead inside and no one really feels like they are being pressured, and also no wagon is especially attractive to me. So I think doing something different might be a good idea, regardless of whether that something different is an amazing strategy or just a meh strategy like mine.
Why do you not consider Celebloki a serious wagon? This doesn't really feel like a valid reason to push for everyone to list off their townreadsIn post 748, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: What kind of agenda do you think this has? My only agenda is to actually get a serious wagon going on someone who is not consensus town so that reactions and reads happen, and more importantly, we get a flip and can start analyzing stuff.It's not attractive because I think pushing someone for their RVS votes this late into Day 1 is absurd in the extreme.
I am still voting Celebloki because he's by no means a townread of mine, and technically voting him could be an expected result of following my proposed strategy anyway.
Still, I would love to vote someone else because it doesn't feel like we're going to get much reactions/associations out of this wagon.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 756, Guillotina wrote: Guillo Bam and AidWhat's that?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 769, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Being generous and assuming we get a pool of 5 to not be limmed that contains 1 scum because its D1 and reads are gonna be bad overall - the odds of at least one success over 2 days should be closer to 40% not 60, I think. If mental math isnt hard now that I'm oldThat is like mega un-generous. It's super easy to find 3-4 people who are town in a 13p, so it shouldn't be hard to find 4-5 town in a 17p.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 759, Dunnstral wrote: I don't agree on this reasoning being a good indicator of mafia.Just to be clear, are you saying that this post by myself is not scum indicative for myself?Even my signature is green :)-
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Damn, seems I am POPULAR! I had FIVE notifications on pages 31 and I don't know how many posts talking about my plan on page 32 and calling me town. If this doesn't stop I might turn into a tomato!Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 818, Dunnstral wrote:
What I am saying is that I disagree with this reasoning, both in general and when applied to me.In post 623, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I'm referring to, specifically, the complete lack of interest in any fluff and the overly trying hard attitude.Ohhhh okay makes sense.Even my signature is green :)-
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Question, Dunn: Why do you TR me then if you disagree with everything I said so far?Even my signature is green :)-
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Anyway I think Black asked who would be a good wagon rn since she doesn't want Naerys. My answer is one of Kawaii/Hu Tao/CSF.
VOTE: Hu TaoEven my signature is green :)-
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In post 824, Black wrote:Why Hu Tao?I don't feel she's done anything townie, and while looking at Andres' ISO (He was originally a potential vote candidate), I found this which I agree with:
In post 680, Andresvmb wrote: 213 - I am not getting the vibes expressed by Hu Tao, which is why I have negative thoughts (I don’t believe the attack).Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 825, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Taking this one because 8/25 is my birthdayYou were born in two years from now???Even my signature is green :)-
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Hmmm I think Dunn's town
In post 830, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Yes I have the Benjamin Button disease or somethingIn post 827, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 825, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Taking this one because 8/25 is my birthdayYou were born in two years from now???Kinda jelly nglIn post 829, Naerys wrote:
i kinda had lazy Sunday and today i fell asleep after i came home from work lolIn post 756, Guillotina wrote: Naerys looks a little frozen and only posts to defend themselves.
i am going to reread a bit a update my RLWHAT??? You fell asleep instead of playing mafia? How DARE you?Even my signature is green :)-
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Good morning!
In post 858, Hu Tao wrote:
Is that the only reason? Sounds susIn post 826, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 824, Black wrote:Why Hu Tao?I don't feel she's done anything townie, and while looking at Andres' ISO (He was originally a potential vote candidate), I found this which I agree with:
In post 680, Andresvmb wrote: 213 - I am not getting the vibes expressed by Hu Tao, which is why I have negative thoughts (I don’t believe the attack).Can you elaborate on why it's sus?Even my signature is green :)-
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I'll be fully honest, I think 858 is smack in Hu Tao's scum meta, BUT I want to hear first what she has to say on why it's sus.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 876, davesaz wrote: Having the two largest wagons of the entire day be almost completely disjoint is not giving me any good feelings.
I can't spend time right at bedtime to run this down, with a 7am meeting that I'm a leader for. It will be 2.5 days or less the next time I do have time.What do you mean by disjoint?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 898, Hu Tao wrote: Like what does that even accomplish? If anything that makes me slightly scum read you for that questionAre you saying you are scumreading me for asking why voting you is sus?
Because I am just going to ask why is it slightly scummy to ask why is it sus to scumread you based on something that I think shouldn't be sus to scumread you on.
Are you confused yet? Because I'm not.Even my signature is green :)-
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Naerys, hate to break it to ya, but asking politely for someone to share a read list is not exactly how you hunt scum. Can you vote Hu Tao please? Or Alternatively, give a scum case for somebody else and vote them?Even my signature is green :)-
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Fuck
This is literaly my first altslip ever
I blame my browser for being weird with cookiesEven my signature is green :)-
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well you snipped out the context for both reads so of course they look weird when juxtaposed. If you read the context, the read change isn't even weird IMO.Even my signature is green :)-
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actually no, it's not my browser's fault, I just remembered what I did wrong. Damn it.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 923, Guillotina wrote:
Can someone here other than Naerys confirm this?In post 904, Naerys wrote: Plus the fact that i tend to be used as a limbait by scum.Checking inEven my signature is green :)-
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In post 952, Naerys wrote: Gamma vs Broccoli (around pages 23-26 or so)
Broccoli being DragonEater´s alt (quite the derp, man) actually makes me think this could be tvt. I know Broccoli likes to pocket people as town. Gamma´s suspicious reaction feels genuine to me.I dunno who is that Dragoneater guy, but i think you confused me with him. I most definitely don't pocket anyone as either alignment, I just troll.Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 922, Black wrote:
The only thing I snipped out in the first quote was that kyouko looked at Naerys's ISO and scumread her, which makes it even worse. I snipped out the reasoning in the second quote because it wasn't relevant to my point. The reasons felt like an over justification for the read change. I'm not buying itIn post 919, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:well you snipped out the context for both reads so of course they look weird when juxtaposed. If you read the context, the read change isn't even weird IMO.You snipped this out:In post 849, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Naerys feels like she has a decent chance to be scum here,probably higher than Celebloki from an outside POVMaybe I'm a dummy (okay, I am a dummy but that's unrelated), but i thought this meant that Kyoko was like "I can see the scumread" rather than "oh yeah Naerys is a big scumread of mine"
Kyoko, am I getting it right?Even my signature is green :)-
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In post 930, Guillotina wrote:
Ok.In post 928, davesaz wrote:
The iso link I posted is one such example.In post 923, Guillotina wrote:
Can someone here other than Naerys confirm this?In post 904, Naerys wrote: Plus the fact that i tend to be used as a limbait by scum.
VOTE: Andres
Your time to post more content has arrivedWhy not Hu Tao?
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In post 941, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
I think you're tunneled, with peace and love.In post 911, Black wrote:In post 909, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Naerys feels like she has a decent chance to be scum here
These reads are so different that I'm having a hard time believing they are realIn post 909, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: So yeah after reading closer I don't think Naerys is scummy up to 555. She's towny even.
To me it seems like you were trying to leave room for you to support and eventually join the Naerys wagon but then couldn't justify the read when asked about it, and I think that's more likely to come from scum
VOTE: kyouko
I think my last 2 posts detail my original impression and how I recognized where it was wrong well enough that it can't be denied they are real thought processes.
Naerys was an "I'll compromise here if I need to but I would prefer one ofmyscumreads davesaz/Celebloki" - Hu Tao is now one ofmyscumreads after a detailed inspection and I'm hoping you'll rejoin me there in flipping scum.
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In post 958, Guillotina wrote: VOTE: Celebloki
We gave them time to breath and has done little with the time we gave them.Fair point, also Celeb said he wanted to post about something different than Nurse and then disappeared, but still I think Hu Tao is scummier.In post 959, Guillotina wrote: I dont want Hu tao, I don't believe they are scum.Elaborate?Even my signature is green :)-
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