Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Naerys]

VOTE: dann

[Naerys]

Okey no lets
VOTE: Hu tao

[Naerys]

Help me yeet Hu and you will become solid town, nurse

[Naerys]

Random what do u think about Hu joining your wagon? I kinda feel sus about that

[Naerys]

I am at work so elaborating will have to wait

[Naerys]

While in work i only comment happenings

[Naerys]

You can trust me, thats why i vote Hu tao

[Naerys]

Actually i wouldnt be surprised if 2 scum were on Nurse

[Naerys]

I also think I'm more weary of scum being off that wagon. Scum knew RN was town so they probably soft defended to gain townie points

No, scum wants as many town PRs to oust as possible. Thats why i am pretty sure atleast 1 scum, maybe 2 scums were on Nurse.

[Naerys]

My Hutector tells me we are dealing with ScumTao

[Naerys]

announcement

ding ding ding! as you were going about minding your own business, you see Datisi pull out a megaphone:

Random Nurse

is mod-confirmed to be aligned with the

town

!"

Awkward...

Dislike this reaction
feels like "oops how do i get from this situation without looking scummy"

[Naerys]

It was a good vote imo. No regrets there and would do it again

ofc you would

[Naerys]

Help me yeet Hu and you will become solid town, nurse

Sell me on Hu-Hu first thanks.

Ask yourself, what motivation would townie have in helping with creating a speedwagon so early? They way the votes on you grew, wasnt townie at all IMO.

[Naerys]

How would scum know RN was a pr? This makes no sense.

I wrote that scum wants to oust town PRs. They didnt know that RN is PR, but they ganged up on a townie to force him to claim.

[Naerys]

Reminder that last game you did this AS TOWN. Creating a quick wagon.

That was then, this is now. And current speedwagon reeks rather badly.

[Naerys]

VOTE: naerys

What? you actually believe that horseshit Hu is spewing?

[Naerys]

Your defense is that it's bad yet it's literally facts that have links proving this.

LALALALA
YOU ARE SO WRONG IT HURTS
OR YOU ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE

[Naerys]

Naerys, why Hu Tao over anyone else on RN wagon besides Dann?

i dont like the way she hopped on RN wagon

[Naerys]

vote count 1.02

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-04 01:00:00).

yeet

Random Nurse

[5]:

Dannflor, Political Clout, Psyche, Hu Tao, geraintm

Psyche [1]:

Doctor Drew

Klick [1]:

davesaz

Hu Tao [1]:

Naerys

not voting [5]:

Random Nurse

, NotAScum, Aristeia, Klick, KayJayQueue

mod notes

everyone has confirmed.

flavour

for me its Psyche or Hu today, they dont look good here at all

[Naerys]

I'm so confident Naerys flips scum this game. Eliminate me and vote her out tomorrow. I agree with this.

VOTE: hu tao

She's contradicting herself. She does this as scum. She literally I'd saying the thing she did as town last game is now scummy when I do it.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Self-voting

VOTE: Hu Tao

Seen plenty of dramatic townies to self vote, including myself

[Naerys]

Kinda tempted to troll hammer tbh

My fingers are itching

This is Naerys reaction as town when it was E-1 on page 3 in last game. Drastically different this game. I wonder why?

I can asure you scum!me would just sit with a bag of popcorn and watch that speedwagon forming from distance without commenting on it at all

[Naerys]

Kinda tempted to troll hammer tbh

My fingers are itching

This is Naerys reaction as town when it was E-1 on page 3 in last game. Drastically different this game. I wonder why?

Besides, i was trolling and indulging myself in a bit of fun.

[Naerys]

This is a separate game. One where she was town. Last few quotes was when she was scum. Just showing this is how she reacted last game as town. She wanted to hammer. But this game she was very suspicious of people on the wagon. Which shows a clear difference

There is plenty of games where i was wary of wagons and commented on it as town. Your argument is invalid. You are just picking what suits you.

[Naerys]

This is a separate game. One where she was town. Last few quotes was when she was scum. Just showing this is how she reacted last game as town. She wanted to hammer. But this game she was very suspicious of people on the wagon. Which shows a clear difference

There is plenty of games where i was wary of wagons and commented on it as town. Your argument is invalid. You are just picking what suits you.

Not true. Show me another game where it was e-2 or e-1 on page 3 and how you reacted

viewtopic.php?t=92221
cook was e-3 here and i said something was fishy there, eventually i settled on python who were scum
granted, town lost anyway but my D1 instinct was decent there if i may say so

[Naerys]

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

Afrayed Knott

Random Nurse

,

Mafia Goon

, executed Day 3

VOTE: Random Nurse

VOTE: random nurse

Dann cooking cookin

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

Afrayed Knott

Random Nurse

,

Mafia Goon

, executed Day 3

VOTE: Random Nurse

Cook him, bestie!

VOTE: Random Nurse

Also Naerys tell me why you think my vote is worse than PCs. When we say similar things.

I'd want Klick and Ari's reasoning too.

PC vote was rvs imo, but psyche´s yours and geraintm´s? All those votes are sus. I just feel the worst about yours but the other 2 will certainly get their due aswell.
The thing is, me as townie would never put my RVS vote on person that already has 2 votes or more.It feels like a tree trying to hide itselrf in a forest

[Naerys]

I have no reason to think a baddie would ask to be voted out immediately to prove a point. This makes me believe Hu Tao is part of our town

It could be manipulative gambit. I dont really consider self voting AI tbh

[Naerys]

I have no reason to think a baddie would ask to be voted out immediately to prove a point. This makes me believe Hu Tao is part of our town

It could be manipulative gambit. I dont really consider self voting AI tbh

I hate to be this ignorant of the game lingo but what does AI stand for? Thanks in advance.

alignment indicative

[Naerys]

So you do recognize the other votes? The question still remains why you aren't examining the others with the same fervor.

Yes, i suspect Psyche and gera aswell. I just prefer doing one at time.

[Naerys]

PC vote was rvs imo, but psyche´s yours and geraintm´s? All those votes are sus. I just feel the worst about yours but the other 2 will certainly get their due aswell.
The thing is, me as townie would never put my RVS vote on person that already has 2 votes or more.It feels like a tree trying to hide itselrf in a forest

So basically because he checked the thread before I did.

If you didnt read the thread and didnt look at what vc Nurse might be, then it doesnt really look well for u.

[Naerys]

PC vote was rvs imo, but psyche´s yours and geraintm´s? All those votes are sus. I just feel the worst about yours but the other 2 will certainly get their due aswell.
The thing is, me as townie would never put my RVS vote on person that already has 2 votes or more.It feels like a tree trying to hide itselrf in a forest

- do you have reason to think that other players follow this policy?
- my vote was not RVS

I know some players dont do RVS.
Why did u vote nurse then?

[Naerys]

that didnt answer my question at all!

? then explain your question a bit please, i thought u are asking if i consider the fact ppl might not wish to rvs

[Naerys]

"me as townie would never put my RVS vote on person that already has 2 votes or more"

im trying to figure out why this disclosure about how you play mafia haa anything to do with how you interpret other players' play

Well true, everybody plays differently. This way just explanation, why the votes on RN plus Hu Tao´s jumping in without care dont look good to me

[Naerys]

I think Naerys' approach to Hu Tao feels like starting from a conclusion and finding evidence, vs the opposite.

Funnily enough you described me the way i feel about Hu - she came to conclusion and now she is looking for evidence.

[Naerys]

I should be at E-1 now I think. Remember after you see me flip town to vote Naerys tomorrow or I'll be pretty upset.

Emotional blackmail? REALLY?

[Naerys]

I think Naerys' approach to Hu Tao feels like starting from a conclusion and finding evidence, vs the opposite.

Funnily enough you described me the way i feel about Hu - she came to conclusion and now she is looking for evidence.

Interesting because I didn't vote you at first, I voted NotAScum. So why would you think this?

First you talked about how i am scum and then went to a previous game to support your statement

[Naerys]

I find this tactic really obnoxious and would appreciate if you avoided it in the future

But I think you're not that likely to have partners

This isn't a tactic or play. I'm just trying to do an equal exchange. In my mind once I flip town maybe people will see what I mean.

I showed you game when i was suspicious of a wagon happening early and i was town. So whats next in ur sleeve

[Naerys]

Well this is just false

? you said i might be scum and then started to "prove" it so i dont see anything false

[Naerys]

This is what i get for actually trying in a game? Fine whatever, i stop trying

[Naerys]

Yeet me instead of looking at RN wagon and its shenanigans, 100% logic

[Naerys]

You act like you've never tried before.

I dont act i am frustrated with people behaving like sheep

[Naerys]

Yet YOU aren't looking at the wagon itself, you're only pushing me and tunneling me. You haven't given deep thought from any other slots. Your reasoning for me over PC is because he checked the thread earlier than I did, even though we had a similar post. You haven't been trying to find scum on the wagon, you've been trying to find a reason for me to be scum

I wanted to but i lost any desire to try *shrug*

[Naerys]

No clue how people don't see the blatant contradictions from Naerys when I've been calling them out.

You have been calling out a big horseshit, thats all.

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys
i am out of here, bye

[Naerys]

I am going to watch new Avatar:The Last Airbender on netflix, bye

[Naerys]

I heard it was bad. But let me know what you think

I have seen 4 episodes so far and i like it a lot

[Naerys]

She's contradicted herself.

And i have shown you a game where i did something similiar as here and i was town. But you keep ignoring that

[Naerys]

You know, I sense Naerys hasn’t really been taking my posts seriously, for example: responding.

So what does that mean? Ignoring me only makes it much, MUCH worse. If she’s Scum is she avoiding trying to get entangled by my feelers?

…

to what i didnt respond?

[Naerys]

You know, I sense Naerys hasn’t really been taking my posts seriously, for example: responding.

So what does that mean? Ignoring me only makes it much, MUCH worse. If she’s Scum is she avoiding trying to get entangled by my feelers?

…

to what i didnt respond?

Go look through my posts and show me exactly what you didn’t respond to.

No, i wont.

[Naerys]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

[Naerys]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

I need you to answer this question, please.

"no" as "no you didnt"

[Naerys]

She's just contradicting herself a lot of times this game. That = scum

and then i flip green and Hu´s confidence crumbles to dust

[Naerys]

i dont really think i was contradicting myself anyway

[Naerys]

I predict aris next post will be about hu tao. I predict psyche will never give me his read on hu tao or why he was scum reading me.

how about you predict who will flip scum?

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys
i am out of here, bye

ok i am not vibing w this playerlist at all

Love you too.

[Naerys]

She's just contradicting herself a lot of times this game. That = scum

and then i flip green and Hu´s confidence crumbles to dust

This implies you know I'm town but you're saying I'm scum

Where does that imply that? I only know that i am town

[Naerys]

Why would my confidence crumble if I'm scum and I successfully miseliminate you

bcz scum has to keep up some appearances, if you´d remain confident after being so obviously "wrong" it´d be suspicious
so obviously your confidence will have to crumble even if for the spectators

[Naerys]

"D1 is a crapshoot"

well it is, i hate D1

[Naerys]

if i learned my success rate at limming scum D1 were rand i'd keep looking for ways to get better at the game but i guess some people just self vote and wait for the smoke to clear

Thanks for the advice mr. genius

[Naerys]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

[Naerys]

Were launching Naerys today.

MY CABBAGES

[Naerys]

Oh hi you're still evading my other post.

Bye

[Naerys]

Anyone has popcorn?

[Naerys]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when

sufficiently motivated.

thats the key word

[Naerys]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when sufficiently motivated.

I feel like Nae gets frustrated easily, especially when erroneously scum read, and kinda puts up that wall.

Tbf though, I don't think I have seen her scum game

viewtopic.php?t=92020
there is scum game of mine

[Naerys]

If you're in this list and town please start town telling. Begging

"town telling"
how many times do you want me to repeat that

[Naerys]

Shame about Drew, but hi Titus

[Naerys]

7-10 days are way too long IMO. Should be reduced to 2-3 days. After few days there nothing fresh to discuss.

You´d be surprised. Some days can be rather long with a lot to discuss.

[Naerys]

The resistance to Naerys is unbelievable

Its funny though

[Naerys]

too young for engagement, sorry nurse

[Naerys]

SmarTao will show you the way

[Naerys]

i can't get over my annoyance w this playlist at this time
ill try again tomorrow

could be worse. for example Enchant could be here

[Naerys]

[Naerys]

another town game lost
warning: Hu is really good as scum

[Naerys]

no

[Naerys]

no

This is getting ridiculous.

yes

[Naerys]

no

This is getting ridiculous.

It's not acceptable.

I accepted it so your statement is invalid.

[Naerys]

My personal opinion is that Naerys thinks this is the only way she can weasel out of being the Elim is being like this. And sadly it's working.

if i wanted to weasel out i would actually start doing something

[Naerys]

She did the self-vote far before that was remotely true though

(@Hu Tao)

She saw the tides turning

now you are just warping reality to suit your needs

[Naerys]

She's playing this well enough that people are not scumreading her which is what she is doing on purpose

stop lying

[Naerys]

Datisi's mod meta for complex setups is to include scum roles that are better to yeet for the scum team than others

this kinda feels manipulative af, just saying

[Naerys]

Datisi's mod meta for complex setups is to include scum roles that are better to yeet for the scum team than others

this kinda feels manipulative af, just saying

did I hit a nerve?

I thought you wanted to get yeeted?

I don't particularly think I need to make up a story to yeet you at this point

I know i am town and from my point of view it kinda feels like trying to topple a struggling wagon

[Naerys]

*you are trying

[Naerys]

its interesting you didnt say anything about anything else that happened but this theory of mine you feel compelled to respond to

It kinda hit my nose, i dont know why.

[Naerys]

um my theory is about your motivation to save hu tao who is on your team

When was i trying to save Hu Tao, lol?

[Naerys]

when you saw her go to e-2 and IC threaten to hammer and then you immediately had a meltdown and voted yourself on page 16

i dont even know how that happened tbh

[Naerys]

UNVOTE:
i need to sleep now tho

[Naerys]

Can you stop asuming stuff about whats going in my head? Thanks, good night