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[Psyche]

think Gera's vote was p bad too

I think it's explainable by gera actively inviting the end of D1 in every game and RN being the largest wagon

wow you are like a meta encyclopedia

[Psyche]

i could have told a more entertaining simile there

[davesaz]

It would be funny if Naerys and Hu Tao are both scum trying to forcefully distance and set up the other as town after a flip of either.

Random Nurse already put on that tinfoil hat

I'm west of almost everyone in the game, so get to almost everything last.

[Aristeia]

Why would my confidence crumble if I'm scum and I successfully miseliminate you

bcz scum has to keep up some appearances, if you´d remain confident after being so obviously "wrong" it´d be suspicious
so obviously your confidence will have to crumble even if for the spectators

this seems really contrived

VOTE: Naerys

[Hu Tao]

Re: NotAScum, I don't know how to separate new scum and new town with such a short iso. Sure, pulling out the wiki on self voting is sketchy but I don't see why scum (with possible mentors as partners) would do that more than town without.

That said, Hu Tao + NotAScum could be distancing. I think HT called NAS scum off a single post and failed to adequately explain why later, and weak mutual scumreads is a common distancing mode.

I beg you. One time, try seeing a game where I am town. You did this the last 2 games. Keep trying to say I could be scum with others.

[Hu Tao]

It would be funny if Naerys and Hu Tao are both scum trying to forcefully distance and set up the other as town after a flip of either.

[Hu Tao]

Why would my confidence crumble if I'm scum and I successfully miseliminate you

bcz scum has to keep up some appearances, if you´d remain confident after being so obviously "wrong" it´d be suspicious
so obviously your confidence will have to crumble even if for the spectators

this seems really contrived

VOTE: Naerys

What are your thoughts on other people this game that don't include me or Naerys

[Psyche]

the page provides an entire system for classifying self-votes and explains in detail how each type of self vote could come from scum

or

from town.

then the only sentence from which it can be gleaned that anyone thinks self-voting is a scumtell is:
"While this practice is commonly seen as scum-indicative, no data has been compiled on the actual effectiveness of self-voting as a towntell or a scumtell."
this is arguably the most disapproving way that a writer could conceivably share that information without openly abandoning wikipedia's editorial guidelines

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

also it's not the pulling out the wiki that's scummy
it's the fiction that the slot decided to vote hu tao based on the content of that wiki

VOTE: notascum

i think this is it, the easy D1 slam dunk that even this town deserves
i will try really hard not to be too obnoxious about how shitty every other wagon is by comparison

[Random Nurse]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

I need you to answer this question, please.

"no" as "no you didnt"

…

OK, then why did you mention Scum wanting to oust as many Town PRs as possible—referring to my moronic wagon—when there was no whisper or riddle of me being one?

I’m not sure I hear those fingers typing, Naerys.

VOTE: Naerys

[Psyche]

If there is a Vigilante this game, I'd suggest vigging NotAScum. They seem like new scum.

move ur dang vote vig has better things to do with their time

[NotAScum]

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

I think I mentioned before that HT jumping on RN wagon looked opportunistic. Couple that with that self-vote, it looks really scummy.

[Psyche]

yeah i don't believe you

[Random Nurse]

Dave's doing that Dave thing where he phases in and out of existence and presence.

[Random Nurse]

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

I think I mentioned before that HT jumping on RN wagon looked opportunistic. Couple that with that self-vote, it looks really scummy.

hi

Did you see my post directed towards you?

[Psyche]

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

I think I mentioned before that HT jumping on RN wagon looked opportunistic. Couple that with that self-vote, it looks really scummy.

and still doesn't credibly explain why you think self-votes are scummy in the first place. you certainly didn't pick that belief up from the wiki you linked

[Klick]

think Gera's vote was p bad too

I think it's explainable by gera actively inviting the end of D1 in every game and RN being the largest wagon

wow you are like a meta encyclopedia

I feel like it's really tough to have decent accuracy without understanding how people play individually a lot more than most are willing to do

But also with gera he's just got a very distinguishable shtick there with the doing nothing D1

[Klick]

VOTE: NotAScum

[Klick]

I think this is a good flip and if he's scum I think there's a few sensible next steps

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

[KayJayQueue]

Why would my confidence crumble if I'm scum and I successfully miseliminate you

bcz scum has to keep up some appearances, if you´d remain confident after being so obviously "wrong" it´d be suspicious
so obviously your confidence will have to crumble even if for the spectators

this seems really contrived

VOTE: Naerys

What are your thoughts on other people this game that don't include me or Naerys

I feel like I’ve been asking this same question to a brick wall all day

[Psyche]

ill get to her ill get to her
and clout too

[davesaz]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Being IC doesn't give you a crystal ball. I'd be more suspicious of people who explicitly sheep.

[Aristeia]

What are your thoughts on other people this game that don't include me or Naerys

gera feels scummy
klick & kjq feels townie
dave feels townie but its weird cuz last time i played with him he was town but didnt feel townie at all

[davesaz]

I feel like I’ve been asking this same question to a brick wall all day

Part of what goes with expecting to get an answer is to take some clear stances yourself. What do you see in other people?
Another approach is to approach the same question from an active point of view. If you think someone's focus is too narrow, engage them directly instead of generically.

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Being IC doesn't give you a crystal ball. I'd be more suspicious of people who explicitly sheep.

I don't recall saying I had one.

Do you recall me saying I had one?