Open 878: Scarfolk Council | The End

[Ydrasse]

o/

tldr me

[Ydrasse]

jesus christ

[Ydrasse]

i’m gathering that the game is cooked

[Ydrasse]

did merlyn slot crumb at all to be nightkilled or were they townread or what’s going on there

i’m staring at the vcs and you have skitter pushed over fire after fires wagon was tepid for ages and town flip but then a town person on that wagon was killed which feels ??

[Ydrasse]

UNVOTE:

[Ydrasse]

i’m gathering that the game is cooked

Eh, if the consensus townreads are actually town I think there's still a good shot to pull through. We need to stop wavering about fire though. The fact that pressure on him seems to once again be getting diffused is just further convincing me he's scum.

can you 1) explain the read succinctly for me and 2) who do you think is diffusing the pressure?

[Ydrasse]

i’m reading this game in pieces but i’m gonna have to leave for a few hrs soon

[Ydrasse]

did merlyn slot crumb at all to be nightkilled or were they townread or what’s going on there

i’m staring at the vcs and you have skitter pushed over fire after fires wagon was tepid for ages and town flip but then a town person on that wagon was killed which feels ??

andante had already hardclaimed PR for the slot mid-d1

didnt die n1 for ???

andante moment

[Ydrasse]

i’m going to tap into the knowledge i got playing against you on mu now

[Ydrasse]

side note is it possible for role claims in this setup to be pseudoclears
i don’t get entirely how it generates roles but if there’s like specific strings that setups can be (?) is it better to do that now to squeeze out where people can hide later
i feel like there’s a towncore atm and if it’s mostly pure AND we can get like further people to trust that we can’t inherently from play it’s probably for the best

[Ydrasse]

@Ydrasse: the game state is heavily tainted by the history of how we got here. Right now I think me, Aisa, and Menalque are somewhat consensus townreads; I'm happy to justify the ones on Aisa and Menalque (no one has really questioned me being town meaningfully all game so I haven't had to argue why I'm town at any point lol but I think most people's reasoning goes back to how I pushed Enchant on d1). If (maybe a big if but whatever) all those names are town then that leaves a pool of 6.

Yesterday had competing fire/skitter wagons; fire was being suspected partially because of their predecessors' play but also Menalque heavily suspected their play as well. This is why fire is the vaguely-default lim for today (also bc skitter flipped town and was suspicious of fire).

There hasn't really been a whole lot of consensus on anything whatsoever today, be it who to lim or whether to massclaim or etc.

i would appreciate justification jumping off my last post

[Ydrasse]

i want my feelers out before i poof

philosophically i think claiming sooner > later works better but that might that i’m obsessed with a dumb em setup where masons claimed and people solved before they burned through cleats in a smaller pool

[Ydrasse]

ok i’ll read those in a bit because i’m heading off here now, but wrt mass claim i thought about doing the latter part where they don’t claim but then it ends up with bad potentials where we just outline the towncore has the prs actually oops or something silly

also the mu game just ended and sheep was mafia there and my reasoning for finding them on like day three (after i vited town over them teehee) was basically they make reads that they think other town should have even when town doesn’t with confidence

[Ydrasse]

i ended up trying to read the vcs instead of diving into that though and annoyingly i think that i have to read this game in full to understand why fire was a wagon and then why it didn’t go through and why it’s lingering today ~_~

[Ydrasse]

okay i rlly need to go now to ghost hunt goodbye

[Ydrasse]

img oing to very slowly start picking through the pages with like a scrap of context of what happens later

[Ydrasse]

me when i instantly open page one, scream in agony, come back to read recent posts

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: Alianna

Clearly

VOTE: Doctor Drew

I can't allow this. Getting executed D1 as SK would be pathetic.

this radiates foreshadowing

[Ydrasse]

in the midst of sheep iso and yeah +1

[Ydrasse]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... 6142&pp=50

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.10 (Final)

Here’s a BBC Scarfolk TV testcard from 1970.

The SHS (Scarfolk Health Service) suggested these particular photographs in an attempt to subliminally accustom citizens to the plummeting success rate of state healthcare and to lower their expectations.

But they got more than they bargained for. Throughout the 70s a very faint, ghostly image of a woman’s face began inexplicably appearing on Scarfolk’s local TV broadcasts. Because she was first seen on this early ‘SHS’ testcard, she became known as “The Scarfolk Nurse.”

She appeared on all kinds of programmes, but was most often seen during children’s television broadcasts at times of social unrest. Engineers at the TV station never found a technical explanation for the phenomenon, nor could they for the examples of distant, eerie voices on the radio, which were also attributed to the “Nurse”.

Can you see her? She’s there if you look hard enough....

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Enchant (7):

Cephrir, sheepsaysmeep, implosion, Alianna, skitter30, Invisibility, Enchant

Dunnstral (3):

Andante, Menalque, Cat Scratch Fever

GuerillaWoo (1):

Aisa

Alianna (1):

Dunnstral

Not voting (1):

GuerillaWoo

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Vote Count 2.8 (final)

This public information poster was ubiquitous during the mid-1970s when there was a spate of cases involving adults being abducted from leisure centres, building sites and nudist beaches.

The police launched a public manhunt hoping that the perpetrator would be swiftly apprehended, but the crimes went unsolved for nearly two years. Terrified grownups would only go outside in groups of four or five and many pubs refused to open.

It was only when a police medium read the entrails of a recently sacrificed tramp that clues were finally unearthed, leading to the arrest of eight year old Steven Benson who had fed his victims to his tortoise, Admiral Twinkles.

When Steven was taken into state care and Admiral Twinkles escaped, it was suggested that the tortoise, which was an illegal immigrant, had used ‘Manchurian Candidate’ style psychological techniques to manipulate young Steven into subconsciously carrying out his instructions.

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skitter30 (6):

Egix96, fireisredsir, sheepsaysmeep, Aisa, Merlyn, Cephrir

fireisredsir (3):

Dunnstral, skitter30, Menalque

Dunnstral (1):

Aureal

Not voting (1):

implosion

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to launch.

fireisredsir, sheepsaysmeep, and Cephrir are the three slots that are on both miseliminations. I think it is likely that there is mafia within this pool.

I feel that Egix is getting strangely little attention for what they have in terms of content. And that leans towards them being mafia with a team that isn't pushing them.

I did not like CSF's stances, personally.

I think that we should eliminate Egix, and then we should eliminate between Aureal and fireisredsir, and then we should eliminate between cephrir and sheepsaysmeep

VOTE: Egix96

lol

[Ydrasse]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ur-Power-1

does this work

[Ydrasse]

i thnk aureal is p towny on the past few pages

[Ydrasse]

?

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.10 (Final)

Here’s a BBC Scarfolk TV testcard from 1970.

The SHS (Scarfolk Health Service) suggested these particular photographs in an attempt to subliminally accustom citizens to the plummeting success rate of state healthcare and to lower their expectations.

But they got more than they bargained for. Throughout the 70s a very faint, ghostly image of a woman’s face began inexplicably appearing on Scarfolk’s local TV broadcasts. Because she was first seen on this early ‘SHS’ testcard, she became known as “The Scarfolk Nurse.”

She appeared on all kinds of programmes, but was most often seen during children’s television broadcasts at times of social unrest. Engineers at the TV station never found a technical explanation for the phenomenon, nor could they for the examples of distant, eerie voices on the radio, which were also attributed to the “Nurse”.

Can you see her? She’s there if you look hard enough....

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Enchant (7):

Cephrir, sheepsaysmeep, implosion, Alianna, skitter30, Invisibility, Enchant

Dunnstral (3):

Andante, Menalque, Cat Scratch Fever

GuerillaWoo (1):

Aisa

Alianna (1):

Dunnstral

Not voting (1):

GuerillaWoo

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Vote Count 2.8 (final)

This public information poster was ubiquitous during the mid-1970s when there was a spate of cases involving adults being abducted from leisure centres, building sites and nudist beaches.

The police launched a public manhunt hoping that the perpetrator would be swiftly apprehended, but the crimes went unsolved for nearly two years. Terrified grownups would only go outside in groups of four or five and many pubs refused to open.

It was only when a police medium read the entrails of a recently sacrificed tramp that clues were finally unearthed, leading to the arrest of eight year old Steven Benson who had fed his victims to his tortoise, Admiral Twinkles.

When Steven was taken into state care and Admiral Twinkles escaped, it was suggested that the tortoise, which was an illegal immigrant, had used ‘Manchurian Candidate’ style psychological techniques to manipulate young Steven into subconsciously carrying out his instructions.

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skitter30 (6):

Egix96, fireisredsir, sheepsaysmeep, Aisa, Merlyn, Cephrir

fireisredsir (3):

Dunnstral, skitter30, Menalque

Dunnstral (1):

Aureal

Not voting (1):

implosion

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to launch.

fireisredsir, sheepsaysmeep, and Cephrir are the three slots that are on both miseliminations. I think it is likely that there is mafia within this pool.

I feel that Egix is getting strangely little attention for what they have in terms of content. And that leans towards them being mafia with a team that isn't pushing them.

I did not like CSF's stances, personally.

I think that we should eliminate Egix, and then we should eliminate between Aureal and fireisredsir, and then we should eliminate between cephrir and sheepsaysmeep

VOTE: Egix96

lol

Do you have a problem with my posting?

you feel different this game than what i expect of you but from these i think it’s a ? to have a pool of people and then off-road, but i think it’s actively worse in the event one of them flips mafia which o think is likely

like deciding the pairings of eliminate x or y feels a strange approach as well

[Ydrasse]

oh, also ydra is here, hi ydra

hi i’m ydra

[Ydrasse]

And I read the post before, I mean I want you to cite the exact posts where fire is being objectively villagery

idk maybe there's nothing there if others dont see it lol. I just think his vibe is extremely villagery. villagery thought processes + very unafraid to engage with people + lots of WIM. I think he's had a pro-town effect on the game with how I had completely no motivation until fireisredsir entered and im like oh shit now we really have a game now theres good stuff. I have by far the best gut/natural reaction to his posting in this game before I process it and am like eh fine a wolf can do that. I would feel better about the wagon on him if it acknowledges those aspects of his play that I think look good (idk if it does that yet, I still havent read very in-depth and citing the specific posts u want rn feels weird cuz of that lolz. it's an eager open approach to the game thing

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

[Ydrasse]

ya idk i was reading around wagonstuff and that post with the vote here is like

sheep is just doing the same thing they did last game i think where they called someone super towny but the reasoning wasn't like, great
i think in the other game it wasn't as strong as that post which makes it weirder that they have like just abandoned that viewpoint to vote here

[Ydrasse]

i think if sheep flips mafia it's marginally clearing for fire but i can't say 100% because they're both viable wagons at this point whereas earlier i could see sheep trying to powerwolf their way into keeping a partner safe, but that would be kind of lol, i guess it makes sense if it's like "i will say a lot of buzzwords about you but not point out objective realities about the actual game we're playing"

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i think implosion and aureal are likely to be town, i have a vague reason for aureal which lol in context but i think aureal seeing me show up into a game and everyone is like, okay heres my view and aureal is like OH MY GOD LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT FIRE feels real, im unsure if someone is mafia and they decide to immediately get that excited/loud about it but it also may be a personality thing but its fine for now

[Ydrasse]

i dont think aisa is as towny as i expected her to be from skimming through her posts, i dont think that one page implosion linked impressed me a lot with the flip flopping but i didnt find it actively wolfy or anything so shrugs

[Ydrasse]

ive already expressed my feelings on dunn but he doesnt feel "Normal" to me which may be NAI but its like also hes pushing me so im being meaner about it and i think he's setting up strange dichotomies to solve and lim and i think that him positing a readpool and then going "nahhh" actually is just... idk it feels weird to be staking out what was a vanity wagon on my slot instead of doing something that would be more useful

[Ydrasse]

ermmmm i need to read more of everyone else but those are the standout thoughts to me i truly cannot be bothered to read all of this even knowing i Should do it

[Ydrasse]

cephrir is also just a shrug on most recent posts, i dont think i read back far enough to know why hes scumreading aureal but i currently dont see that as a wolf so im like ):<

[Ydrasse]

And I read the post before, I mean I want you to cite the exact posts where fire is being objectively villagery

idk maybe there's nothing there if others dont see it lol. I just think his vibe is extremely villagery. villagery thought processes + very unafraid to engage with people + lots of WIM. I think he's had a pro-town effect on the game with how I had completely no motivation until fireisredsir entered and im like oh shit now we really have a game now theres good stuff. I have by far the best gut/natural reaction to his posting in this game before I process it and am like eh fine a wolf can do that. I would feel better about the wagon on him if it acknowledges those aspects of his play that I think look good (idk if it does that yet, I still havent read very in-depth and citing the specific posts u want rn feels weird cuz of that lolz. it's an eager open approach to the game thing

I like fire's skitter read, at a quick skim. I think it's vaguely similar to mild paranoia ive been wanting to articulate that her reads are too static?
like for example, she first put CSF at wolf for a minor thing. then she keeps repeating here and there that she thinks CSF is a wolf, but many many people have expressed a different opinion and she doesn't engage with it. she asked me why I townread CSF, didnt rly do anything with the response; tons of other people say "I townread CSF" and skitter disagrees but just doesn't rly interact. I think something similar happened with Andante, where first she developed a push on Andante, then a bunch of people went "I feel like this is town for andante?" sorta stuff and I dont feel skitter faced that enough and instead just kept maintaining a rigid andante!wolf

when I saw fire talking about skitter I liked fire more, it feels like we're somewhattt poking at a similar thing

I think if fire is a wolf then maybe egix is wolf, but if fire's villager I find egix's progression very villager from unvoting fire at e-1 and then progressing onto skitter

sheepsaysmeep is town

I think implosion is just town still. I didnt read the scumgame he linked suuper closely but I think theres a noticeable difference in his discomfort and like the depth/complexity of his thoughts

I think fire is toooown, it's not that there's anything he did like "that's really hard to fake", it's just like he said we are responding reallyyyy similarly to some things lol and when that happens on a large-scale it's usually just town. and I find the efforts against him just pretty underwhelming

I think ceph is town, maybe trended down a little

menal is probtown. like at the peak of his exchange with fire, at the wall, he was locktown, prob top town. but I find his recent couple pop-ins that are just "vote red" reallyyyy bothersome and bad faith. one specific example, one effort he made to push people onto red over skitter was "just look at the people on the two wagons." that one bugged me the most because it was like, almost all the fire-voters or intent to do so like implosion had basically ceased playing the game and processed nothing since fire's posting, the people who would vote skitter here are the ones who have credibility in terms of currently actively evaluating, and that was something I was gonna talk about with why red>skitter bothers me so much. and it doesnt feel like his reads are so polarized between the two wagons that he can justify/overcome that disparity


egix is like iffy-town lol, I liked csf and then I sorta like some stuff but I feel like he's being relatively unreadable to me and it means he has to trend into "iffy" territory. hopefully we are around at the same time sometime to converse

aisa is like, my gut still screams wolf, but I think maybe I should just accept she's a threadspewed villager. the really general explanation why I constantly feel like she's a wolf is almost, like, "she's being too reasonable." I find that among big posts with lots of words, it's like ultimately nothing is being said and im often like damn I was excited that there was gonna be a firm assertion at the end, like thus I conclude this person is wolf and it would be spicy, but it turns out there realllyyyyyy rarely is that firm assertion and it sorta just seems like a wolf who struggles to formulate strong wolfreads. reads rarely stick long-term. like I find aisa can be talked out of most things, and sometimes that doesnt feel like a villager with enough natural instincts. BUT a) I accept this could just be playstyle, b) what mainly sticks out to me is that after being like, strongly townread by nearly everyone, aisa keeps playing the same and having lots of motivation and feeling free. not that me doing the converse is wolf lol, but that is like the most villagery possible response and alone makes me sorta feel like it's v lol


I feel like ive outlined the mainnn thing that stood out to me about skitter. like progression on csf is "I feel like that csf post was wolfy" -> hundreds posts later, "I think csf is p wolf" -> hundreds posts later, "csf is prob wolf." between those posts, many people, most of the playerlist, say they think csf is town, the only one she acknowledges is asking me why. I think similar things happen with other wolfreads like me slowly trending down for not being here, with andante sitting at wolf despite like strong reasons some things were NAI just meta-fact-wise.
her response to the wagon is also just, a lot of different parts of just dont make enough sense to me to buy it. there was a bunch of aspects that I cant all think of right now. 1) is just what ive discussed about "push fire/sheep after I die" being performative, and pushing the idea that if people don't push her reads after she dies then theyre wolfy felt especially dirty to me. like, people almost never follow legacy reads on this website lol, let alone when you're the lim, and I really dont think skitter's reads this game seemed like she would be so confident "this must be immediately pummeled after I die." the reads have seemed relatively mellow. 2) I don't buy her reacting like semi-omgus reads, in how she's been like, "fire and sheep are wolves for their pushes on me, the others can be villa." I just do not believe that that doesnt align with her reads too conveniently, and then she's acting as if it's based on the ways we've pushed her rather than prior reads. for example, the way she responded to egix was as if she was going to omgus him, and tonally accusatory, then suddenly he's town. why is aisa hopping on the wagon town and sheep is gross and wolfy? it just feels like conclusions that aren't actually based on how we joined the wagon; if anything I explained myself more than aisa, where I described a paranoia that's been brewing throughout the whole game and aisa just described one mena-fire conversation and allowed that to move her vote. then, people pop in, are reluctant to vote fire and ok with voting sheep, and suddenly skitter thinks sheep looks worse than fire. it's just omgus to try to fire a counterwagon


then you get to like, merlyn/aureal (im just going to bunch them together cuz im short on time)
Merlyn - I was feeling not good previously about the andante slot, Merlyn has been ok
aureal - purest tone ive played with in a long time which is +town

but I keep coming to that push on me as a little bad faith. I think "sheep hasn't been explaining things and his contributions have started lacking" feels weird to assert like that because it ignores context. at first, I was definitely not what theyre describing, I started the game pretty thorough. then, I was like we just need to kill enchant here lol--which could be wolfy, but it completely explains what theyre describing. then, I outright say, im lacking motivation for this game and not going to do much, which could be wolfy, but it explains what theyre describing. to the point where it's wolfy to just be like "sheep is doing these things, these are wolfy things so obv sheep is a wolf"

I think generally, in an omgus-y way, the push onto me feels very wolf-driven. skitter's explanation boils down to "sheep is lacking wim" and that slowly devolved into sheep is definitely wolf here. as implosion described, this feels just, outright shit reasoning when it applies to the vast majority of the game. dunn is playing the game less than he did eod1. ceph is playing the game even less. menal has been playing the game less. implosion is playing the game less. etc.
then a wave of people joins on and I just think there's got to be a wolf trying to take advantage of the momentum
skitter: d1 sheep townread -> sheep wolf -- for which I feel there is basically no justification out there
menal: d1 sheep townread -> I'll yeet sheep today, no explanations
ceph: d1 sheep townread -> I'll yeet sheep today, no explanations
implosion: sheep just trends way down
fire: sheep from top town to light scumlean
Merlyn: from top townread to see's aureal post about me that I don't feel is a very accurate overall portrayal and goes assertively you know what she's right

like obviously there are some villagers / very strong townreads in this bunch but my instinct thinks this push feels gravelyyyy wrong and very on-the-whole wolf-driven, like 2 wolves present. maybe my instinct is wrong because it's inherently omgus-y and omgus is illogical, idk. I see in p-edit that egix has quashed counterwagons away onto me so I am slightly pocketed.

my main problem is that the one big justification I see that makes some people have hope they can actually lim me today: "sheep dropped off!" just starts to ignore stuff at this point like the past 24 hours. I have un-dropped-off while others have more-dropped-off. implosion is someone who townread me, then was skeptical, then read my new content thoroughly, found some of it villagery. fire townread me, then was skeptical, then read my new content thoroughly, found some of it villagery. people who are not engaging closely and then like ok I'll yeet sheep lol just feels like bad play to a point where it's somewhat wolfy

I personally do not think I feel good about a fire lim lol idk

like I get if it just has to be resolved the way this game is

but my own preference is to play like a normal day of mafia

implosion being softly down to "Just Lim fire" is like 0.01% weird to me meh

like I get it but switched sides a bit easily

going to sleep in a sec but +1 that I want massclaim today

fire could be wolf like I am whelmed by him but I think I am not happy to just consensus-pummel him so claims seem right today

[Ydrasse]

ya idk i was reading around wagonstuff and that post with the vote here is like

sheep is just doing the same thing they did last game i think where they called someone super towny but the reasoning wasn't like, great
i think in the other game it wasn't as strong as that post which makes it weirder that they have like just abandoned that viewpoint to vote here

I think this just makes no sense as a read on me, out of all the posts I have

in that game, I never really attempted to explain the townread on the person (litten?). the person was a consensus obvious town and was literally never doubted from day 2 until endgame, so there was no reason to explain anything.

fire is just a not even remotely comparable scenario?


feels like forcing a meta read after she hyped up "im so excited to sort sheep using the meta I have!" and just mildly opportunistic lol.

also this isn't the point of the meta read it's that you made a read that was very poorly-fleshed out in that you rely not on in game content but like, the "vibes" of someone and how they feel and how you think other people should be perceiving them

and then you like just kind of make that and there's some posting between here and now but i dont get how the posts you made lead you to voting fire for the strength of that read you started with

it's the kind of read that you can make but step away imo because you dont have logical reasons, i know that not every read is going to be a logical one and i solve a lot with vibes but given the past game and this one it feels like youre doing the same thing and then i happened to join and go "hm!" lol

[Ydrasse]

meh ok that makes some sense

but yeah I just read a lot on vibes as a player

a lot of the playerlist there including the villagers read on vibes. like they made a towncore of 4 people and almost never bothered explaining any of it. so it feels weird to conclude from that game "sheep making vibe reads could be a wolf!sheep thing"

that isn't really the conclusion either

the people who made a towncore aren't making reads from what ive seen that they espouse strongly and then take a step back from and then another until they're comfortable enough voting those people, i dont agree with them entirely but i dont seem them contradicting the things they said

the problem is like youre making vibe reads that feel to me (when you use language like "extremely villagery" and "pro-town" and "best gut feels" etc) like they're word salad and that you can step away from because they don't have an anchor as in "fire said this thing, and voted this, and it was Good" but you can still seem like you have these sorts of feelings and thoughts

[Ydrasse]

i want to say yes ive spectated a game but i dont remember which one so lol

[Ydrasse]

ydra whats your read on me independent of sheep

eeeehhhhhhh
i don't think i know how to read your tonally or whatever but i think your posting day two isn't terrific, you make some weird like theoretical thoughts/worlds like where you wonder about wolves in the drivers seat and you were part of the reason skitter died given your casing and in general you've been a slot that's failed to resolve despite people trying to kill you which is a curiosity in of itself,

looking at today's wagon on you it looks like it's mostly people who are probably town voting you which is like, what are the wolves doing if you're town, i guess choosing not to kill you or being afraid of having to do it? yesterday's wagon on you is a little more seedy to me with dunn/ceph but it's like. you keep cropping up but no one wants to bite which is just ?

that doesn't say a lot but i'm unsure of how to word it, if you're a wolf i guess your partners want to keep you alive rather than defaulting to bussing, if you're town wolves probably don't want blood on their hands or are saving to kill you later where they'll be like, "oh look fire is still here :/ how did they wiggle out smh"

i wouldn't be upset if you were wagoned and killed tbqh, it avoids a lot of worst case scenarios and i have people who i know i would never wagon today and probably for most of the game so. a shrug and a thumbs down

[Ydrasse]

i think we should claim

imagine me hand waving wildly at everything sheep said about fire yesterday
i read closer when i have time

[Ydrasse]

vt
around later, migraine

[Ydrasse]

beetlejuice

[Ydrasse]

i haven’t thought a lot about this game anymore my job was done in bringing justice yesterday

[Ydrasse]

i just told a lie

i think that in the context of how sheep spoke about fire would be really weird if they were partners together and i view the initial strong townread that wobbles into an inevitable “fire can die” probably speaks to aureal being +wolf especially in a two mafia world

[Ydrasse]

i don’t care if i die today since i won’t have to go near endgame but i feel that it should be incredibly obvious that my move as partner yesterday was to not hellbus my partner and then do nothing with that credit

[Ydrasse]

i don’t let my partner die there if we are the only two and i have to get through the rest of this game but regardless of a pointless point

i’ll do it later

[Ydrasse]

i think it’s incredibly silly to kill my partner and lose any sort of help i could have. a vote on my side is a vote not cast against me etc

like ik this isn’t productive but i’m just ??? that people would even think i could be a wolf after yesterday

[Ydrasse]

the funniest world is the world where i get limmed by the people who didn’t vote sheep yesterday i think and then tomorrow everyone’s sitting there like huh how did that one happen who could have seen this turn of events

[Ydrasse]

i read tonight

[Ydrasse]

meh

i can't be bothered to quote 234234 things to illustrate points in excruciating detail but r.e dunn i think that that his posting is pretty bad with wolf!sheep, he has a lot of posts where sheep is in the pool but it's alongside other people and he keeps like evaluating but it never quite ends up on sheep, ended up calling aureal worse and tried to eliminate there, made posts that were weird dichotomies of "pick x or y and then lim a or b" so on, his pool/teams feel very like. ad libs sort of "put people in a poe" together to me

otoh if it is aureal he's just like, right on the other mafia that happens sometimes but he keeps trying to kill my slot and i know thats wrong so i think im less likely to give good grace/reasonable doubt there, it comes across more intentional

[Ydrasse]

id say you probably win if i die today by going aureal > dunn

i dont think its cephrir

[Ydrasse]

i mean maybe but i dont think it makes a lot of sense atp

if i were to answer why egix did anything at all i would but alas

[Ydrasse]

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