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i wonder if his predisposition toward the color red indicates the coloration of his role pm.In post 20, Hectic wrote:Awarmredwithmaybeatingeofdeepblue.
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frighteningly accurate. are you my housemate?In post 152, Uncrowned wrote:sneasel is lying he was busy with very unimportant things like building houses out of wax and watching videos of people falling over-
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why are you healing these two here akarin?
i'm feeling tipsy already
as in a "i have literally no opinion on anything they've posted" null or a "i am very intentionally null on them" kind of null?In post 80, Uncrowned wrote:
I'd put them null for now.In post 73, Akarin wrote:
You scumread Jake?In post 71, Uncrowned wrote:Hey. I said tie me within a townie player.
update this read if you can.
shelly is always scum, be waryIn post 82, Uncrowned wrote:I like Shelly!
this is low key how i feel about every person in the game atpIn post 127, shellyc wrote:hectic is sneaky
HURT: hectic
this is a bit serious i don't get the Hectic Townvibes yet and the iso has a fluff to seriousposting ratio that i dislike
i assume equi/me is some kind of vip tier.In post 146, Rainbow Reads wrote:RAINBOWREADSLIST!!!
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{Rainbow Reads}
{Akarin}
{Jake The Wolfie, shellyc}
{Fidget}
{Equinox, Necessary Sneasel}
{Hectic, Rockhopper}
{Uncrowned, PookyTheMagicalBear}
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why are jake and shelly equal to you? otherwise i'm kind of fine with your reads.-
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what made you like the other person's opener? not jake. i forgot the username of the one i'm asking about.In post 163, Akarin wrote:
Because I had liked both of their opening posts.In post 155, Necessary Sneasel wrote:why are you healing these two here akarin?
Later I decided I did like Jake because of his discomfort with being townread, but since then I've flipped on him because I feel like he's playing it up a lot.-
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cool, why uncrowned?In post 164, shellyc wrote:
scum is superiorIn post 155, Necessary Sneasel wrote:shelly is always scum, be wary
I'm townreading akarin, unc
i scumread this post in an out of game way >___>In post 165, Akarin wrote:Welcome to your first game on site, Necessary Sneasel!
This is sure to be a good introduction for a new player like you.
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correct, i'm still right though
equinox folds his arms, narrows his eyebrows, and shakes his head at usIn post 176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what happens at the deadline?-
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fidgetIn post 184, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
what made you like the other person's opener? not jake. i forgot the username of the one i'm asking about.In post 163, Akarin wrote:
Because I had liked both of their opening posts.In post 155, Necessary Sneasel wrote:why are you healing these two here akarin?
Later I decided I did like Jake because of his discomfort with being townread, but since then I've flipped on him because I feel like he's playing it up a lot.-
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moodIn post 190, Hectic wrote:Sneasel Sneasel Sneasel SNEASEL Sneasel
i hate that you've become aware of this tellIn post 192, shellyc wrote:
im pretty sure buzzwording is one of my alignment tells which nobody has found out yetIn post 189, Hectic wrote:This is a good point lol
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you seem like the kind of rainbow with an accurate gut but it's not helping me work out whether you're scumIn post 199, Rainbow Reads wrote:In post 155, Necessary Sneasel wrote:why are jake and shelly equal to you? otherwise i'm kind of fine with your reads.Necessary Sneasel!
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ahaIn post 201, Akarin wrote:
She obviously understood about Equinox's disgusting anti-suffrage stance, but chose to RVS vote for Pooky right after me, building momentum. It's a dumb page 1 read but I feel like scum would have been more likely to either not vote or vote elsewhere.In post 184, Necessary Sneasel wrote:what made you like the other person's opener? not jake. i forgot the username of the one i'm asking about.
But post 98, post 171 progression, and post 171 also strike me as pretty towny, so I have grown more confident in my town read there.
i think nonchalance, or even silliness, is what i was looking for in fidget's opening
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i hope that this is ironic so you can be my fav userIn post 214, Uncrowned wrote:I can't believe I put on my favorite Lynx Africa body spray just to get snubbed from being the first selection.-
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the people i want to do things (pooky, hectic, rock first and then jake & rr) aren't really doing anything so this is a pretty correct take on my play yeahIn post 217, Fidget wrote:Necessary Sneasel - I feel like this player has been poking and prodding, sure, but I'm not convinced they are solving as of yet. He really has just been asking Akarin why she has townreads.
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is this the only reason you townread uncrowned?In post 217, Fidget wrote:HEAL: Uncrowned - Town reaction to trust.
your openign post made my third eye raise its brow and i coudln't really put my finger on why - i think akarin is probably right, it's what the kids call "pure tone"In post 218, Fidget wrote:Why's that?-
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i was going to make a snarky response about your wincon, until i realised this is true for both winconsIn post 221, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also we kinda win if we get enough pairs paired up right?-
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this will be written on my gravestoneIn post 236, Hectic wrote:seems okay-
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how, except if you say the word "slip" you're confirmed scumIn post 243, shellyc wrote:
uncIn post 219, Fidget wrote:A question to whoever wants to answer: If you could win the game by identifying one town right now, who would it be?-
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are you ready to change your life forever?In post 249, Hectic wrote:
she has a good range, and all of her posts could in-theory be faked so far. mindmelding on reads is +town thoughIn post 247, shellyc wrote:
why are you undecided on someone whose reads you agree with?In post 244, Hectic wrote:Fidget I'm actually kinda undecided on, but I agree with her reads which is probably good
look within - which of those reads do you think you could fake or would be motivated to fake?
now, flip it back. do you see a reason for scum fidget to fake any of these fakeable reads?
this will be covered in greater detail in my next book-
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would counter that hectic providing selfmeta to support town!hectic is not an alignment tell, shellyc.
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nice work i was actually tempted to follow thru on this one
why in 1000000 years would you bother untrusting someone who you've confurmed town pookyIn post 295, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it's ok, what's not meant to be,
is not meant to be.
Untrust : Uncrowned
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alright this is cuteIn post 299, Uncrowned wrote:whatever jack-
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we have one clear and I have a scumreadIn post 303, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Good to know that we're basically still in RVS 13 pages in.
if you feel like we're still in rvs try making some more noise and blast us out of it.-
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never mind i forgot about thisIn post 295, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it's ok, what's not meant to be,
is not meant to be.
Untrust : Uncrowned
I think you should dance with Akarin, her eyes glow like a thousand stars when she looks at you.
pooky i am outrightflusteredthat you bothered untrusting someone who is now confirmed town to you but you are townsiding by play but the correct strat for scum in this setup is to just make explosively towny noises early and hope that someone has a whimsical lapse in judgement so strictly speaking you should have something like top-3 scum equity but you're not really trying to look towny you're just posting a shitload-
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reminder we need pooky to re-trust uncrowned for an actual mod clear
good idea do marathonsIn post 322, Hectic wrote:I'm basically V/LA until the marathon is over btw-
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no this is my first game, I haven't read either of thoseIn post 342, Gloria Cleary wrote:Have you played with Shelley before, because she sounds more like she did in Death Curse here than in Hideyoshi. Scum!Shelley is more aggressive where as town!Shelley tends to be somewhat indecisive. Why is he scum for not re-trusting Uncrowned?
shelly does not seem aggressive here. actually she feels a bit lost and maybe perplexed more than aggressive which I associate with town in this setup. her strongest read is that I'm an alt lol.
he reads town in isolation but he's mechanically solvable by Pooky re-trusting himIn post 342, Gloria Cleary wrote:If you lean town on him then why would that make Poooky scum? Wouldn’t it be in scum!Pooky’s interest to want to re-trust “lean town” Uncrowned or am I missing something?
pooky not doing so is either coming from pooky who is scum with him therefore can't re-trust him, or Pooky who is scum with someone else and wants to cast a shadow on uncrowned's alignment - not re-trusting is a scum move-
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to make it look like they're aligned so uncrowned isn't removed from the gameIn post 348, Gloria Cleary wrote:The first part I get but isn’t it in “scum”!Pooky’s interest to re-trust “town”!Uncrowned”?-
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In post 351, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
???In post 343, Necessary Sneasel wrote:re-trust uncrowned until the next vc or he's not mod confirmed and you may as well be the scumteam gambiting lol
why wouldnt scum be able to trust each other?
now you've faked the townslip
if your next post doesn't trust uncrowned, then your next post is a scumclaim
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actually good question idkIn post 353, Uncrowned wrote:I am confusion right now
what is mod-confirm?
isn't it only when both mafia trust each other that nothing happens or something along those lines? are you suggesting i trust pooky?
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activity reads are for nerds, shelly probably had a busy weekend or somethingIn post 361, Gloria Cleary wrote:Maybe NS is right because Shelley also needed prodding in Hideyoshi. I hate activity alignment reading people though.
check her iso, a personality like hers always reads assertive but i think she clearly has no idea what's going on in this game-
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every weekend is a sucky weekend for activity readsIn post 371, Akarin wrote:Need to catch up, but this is a weird weekend to be making activity reads.-
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I did very briefly before he posted and before it occurred to me that a Pooky + uncrowned scumteam are incentivised to trust each other then untrust before any kind of mod activity confirms that the trust request was fakeIn post 375, Akarin wrote:So why isn't Uncrowned just conf!town or gamethrowing scum? I don't see what mod confirmation has to do with it, if Uncrowned accepts a trust, he's out of the game and scum is that much closer to winning, right?
Haven't 2 players trusted Uncrowned at this point?
Pooky is absolute lock scum unless he re-trusts uncrowned, removing the potential for them to be the scumteam gambiting
pooky reads scummy anyway and I don't think his cute act is going to win him enough favours so this doesn't really bother me
see it you can find itIn post 377, Akarin wrote:Necessary Sneasel, why'd you do a 180 on me?-
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akarin is scum because the four pages between this & her last post are filled with actual content and this is a really peculiar moment to pop in with a mech comment - go back and reread from her last post to this one and tell me you think an akarin who is reading and trying to solve the game makes this post without commenting on anything elseIn post 304, Akarin wrote:When we do start pairing up, instead of pairing top townreads first, I kind of think we should pair from the middle pairs until we hit scum, then reevaluate for the last few.
unconscious guilt over me saying I was going to trust her is showing
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don't slander me I have no readsIn post 415, Gloria Cleary wrote:
We shouldn’t ship anyone unless we think they’re both town. If the majority think this then great but that’s the only way that makes sense.In post 410, Akarin wrote:Because it would flip them now and the endgame would be actually readable players, and they don't seem like they're scumreading each other particularly.
Nothing about either has really pinged me either way but I want to hear from players who actually have reads on them. Like Sneasel and Fidget for example. I would be extremely shocked if either one of them flipped scum here, so I think I trust their reads the most.
rainbow reads weakly town because I don't feel like they're trying to look town (this is a setup which necessitates scum being very likeable), so much as doing things which they need to do as town. their iso is very undersold.
jake has done nothing in this game-
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granted let's put this to bedIn post 421, Akarin wrote:I actually almost proposed to Sneasel earlier today, not that I think he'd accept, but I'm having some paranoia there. I think he's probably more likely town than not but I don't know, something about the "I'm gonna pair with Akarin, somebody stop me" thing. Plus, if he is town, I wouldn't want him to actually accept anyway.
There's 4 hours after Sneasel proposed to Uncrowned where Uncrowned was admittedly not that active butdidhave a couple posts on site elsewhere and there's not enough scum for it to be Sneasel + Uncrowned + Pooky. So scum!Uncrowned should have paired with whichever was town, or either if they both were.
I don't see what the gambit does for Uncrowned here if scum, and it's possible that it's Pooky + Uncrowned and Uncrowned missed the Sneasel thing but I think that'smuchless likely than Sneasel seems to think it is.
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ok talk me through what's towny in her iso and not just mech talk kgo
you think Jake and rainbow are that similar? can you try rainbow again?In post 423, Akarin wrote:You know how when you get like halfway through a normal game and you just want to eliminate those players who have done absolutely nothing towny all game and you can't stand them making it to endgame, but then they flip VT?
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