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VOTE: elements[
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I'd you're excited to play with furtive, can I persuade you to vote Tweet?
As furtive is already predisposed to do so
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I am.disposed to vote for you-
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Am I scum every game?In post 93, Elements wrote: When I'm scum I really enjoy day 1
Geraintm isn't enjoying day 1
Therefore geraintm is scum-
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I'm a delight Day 2In post 98, humaneatingmonkey wrote: gerain is a known and identified grouch-
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Shooting their load way too earlyIn post 127, Elements wrote: I get excited on day 1-
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I am literally the worst player to ever wagonIn post 153, Elements wrote: Given what you've previously said about Gera, why do you think a wagon there would accomplish anything?-
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I have noneIn post 161, clidd wrote: For others, I still need more time/content to form reads.
To be honest, the slot worth of pressing as it is notorious from his scumgame to vanishing is Gera.
That said,
VOTE: geraintm
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I am 100% scum this game thenIn post 169, clidd wrote:
Yes, I did. My previous game was with him on Mini 2273 (viewtopic.php?t=89555).In post 163, Klick wrote: Have you played with gera before clidd? Do you know much about him as a player?
He was scum there and did basically nothing significant on D1.-
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No thoughts on themIn post 237, clidd wrote:
Right, that's a start.In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
And what about Tweet/Klick/HEM?
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I'm reading a half decent murder mysteryIn post 254, furtiveglance wrote:
Where does your elusive interest lie?In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today-
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You are the naughtiest person here so farIn post 280, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Thanks for noticing me.
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I believe I am easily solvable as scum as thr game progressesIn post 289, Roden wrote: I wish I could read Geraintm, but figuring out his alignment is like playing a slot machine and the house always wins-
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I mean I think I am really obvious when I am scum as the game grows longer.In post 294, Roden wrote:
Would that mean that it's difficult to solve you when you're town?In post 293, geraintm wrote:
I believe I am easily solvable as scum as thr game progressesIn post 289, Roden wrote: I wish I could read Geraintm, but figuring out his alignment is like playing a slot machine and the house always wins
And enough people are confused by me that no one should ever leave me to drift into an end game.
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They talk so much.In post 309, Greeting wrote:
Why?In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
If scum they'll give themselves away at some point.
If town, then I want them posting.
Like a reverse Not Mafia
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I'm townie? Then I must be getting better at this game.In post 358, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Gera = what’s his name
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In post 410, clidd wrote: I have OopsieDaisy, Tweet and Klick as likely town.
Greeting and Roden are fine.
Null is pretty much most of: Elements, Emperor, Takutai, Furtive and HEM.
Scumlean is Karma.-
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I cannot parse this postIn post 592, Takutai wrote: VOTE: geraintm
On a re-read geraintm seemed townier than Emperor. That's like deciding which of a durian or a marula is more of a fruit.-
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My god this isn't pure, but it is Still likely only 1 out of 4 and still no better than random-
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I got nothing.
There aren't even any wagons for me to.object to.
Can we draw straws now for who goes?-
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I said previous OopsieDaisy I have no jntention of voting forIn post 706, humaneatingmonkey wrote: you have no one you want to keep, gerain?-
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Is this a reads list? Am I most townie or least townie?In post 754, humaneatingmonkey wrote: oh shit the hype is fucking real
Monkey
Oopsie
Emperor
Klick
Elements
Takutai
geraintm
Fucking yes let's flip the burger-
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I'm.glsd.you.think so.In post 841, Klick wrote: What an interesting couple of pages
Just want the flip-
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Because there is no one I think has better than random odds of being scumIn post 844, Klick wrote: Then why aren't you voting?-
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Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last gameIn post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers-
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what, we outed two power roles, had another townie lying? it was awful, we just got really lucky with the Vig and Scum not shooting right. That was a bad day 1 for townIn post 970, Elements wrote:
Interesting comparison seeing how last game went downIn post 968, geraintm wrote:
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last gameIn post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers-
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I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
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You 100% miss the point of my post if you think I don't want people voting Karma.In post 1014, Takutai wrote:
Fragment of my pet team strike again, this time elements decides tk vote town Roden after monke's 'everyone just do what I say' post and geraintm, like oopsiedaisy, really doesn't want us voting Karma.In post 998, geraintm wrote:I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
Going off of what oopsie and elements have been pushing for, if monke is town, this roden momentum is to make monke look very bad, as monke said. For instance, look at earlier elements wanting to lock the vote between Roden and monke.
I was merely noting the vote, how it was trying to change the direction of the game and how itnwill look post flips and I thought it needed looking at-
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Would have required me to have paid enough attention to realise they were 1 vote offIn post 1189, curiouskarmadog wrote: okay no one asked yet...but here we go, general thoughts on everyone.
Gera, its null, they havent done anything, the only thing that is different this game (I meta-ed them the last game) is that they havent complained as much about Day 1 sucking this game. the only thing to note is that for someone who doesnt like Day 1, they had a chance to end it by hammer Roden. IF Roden flips scum, Gera is suspect. if Roden flips town, Gera looks townish.
OD, it hurts me to say you are in my top 3 scum suspects. maybe it is play style, but I find myself making excuses FOR you. I dont like your interaction with Tweet. Leaning tweet/OD scum team. The only thing that is stopping my vote, is I DID suspect you last game and you were town. you are killing me with the "to be honest" posts. if you flip scum, I will never let a "to be honest" post slide again. you seem opportunistic. I want you to scum hunt, you seem like you are coasting on others.
Elements, it could be residue effects from the last game, but have been back and forth on you in the read. most of your jumps on wagons look bad, but you have had a couple where I thought "hmm, would scum do that?". going to put a pin in this for now. need to see some flips.
Greeting, ugh...null too. hops in, does a little dance party full of questions and light-thoughts...jumps out again. didnt hammer Roden (follow back up if there is a Roden flip). I need to see more from this slot.
EFN/nips, normally I would say cut this slot. BUT that was what we did last game, and he was a VIG, and basically won the game. so at a loss. he seems to be my hype man which I like. but I also like my ego stroked. given his current content in the game, I dont think he should see endgame. Do better EFN.
clidd, also part of the "to be honest" club (man I will be horrible to live with if both you AND OD are scum together). I am leaning scum/null here. Hasnt done much. Hasnt made waves. also coasting. Also have trouble understanding they "why" behind his reads.
Roden, ugh..I think a lot of info COULD come from this slip. But I think he is town...if he flips scum, I look bad, but....it is what it is. I wont be voting him today, will see if that end up killing me today. I hate the self vote. if I found a game where are scum he self voted, I would jump on this wagon, HEM homework?
Tweet, in my top scum picks. one part OMGUS one part he just seems scummy. I will have to go back and reread the WHY behind that. but just kept thinking during the read, "wow he is scummy" and mentally put him in my scum pile. I dont like his interaction with OD.
Tak, HATED THAT SLOT early game, liked MUCH more in the later game. I feel like at one point you have tweet on a "townlock" which I dont understand or like. (need to reread that). leaning town.
Fur, also top scum pick. HEM nailed it, no soul in this game. Votes a lame, stances are phoned in. I want to see him push a case. coasting. says he doesnt like a thing, then does that thing. hiding in plan sight scum.
HEM, closest thing to a town read I have. too much power though, if he IS town, scum is no doubt scared of him...or maybe not, if Roden is town, they might love him. I think I need to read a HEM scum game. at any rate, not going any where Day 1
Klick, null pile with EFN (Nips), more like Greeting, comes in...does the hokey pokey, jumps out. who knows.
I would be down with a Fur, tweet, OD (sniff) wagon in that order. if a vote was needed, clidd as well.
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Do it!In post 1212, Roden wrote: Surely we don't actually No Elim today...-
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i was checking in quickly was allIn post 1339, curiouskarmadog wrote:It not Day 1 anyone. the is a bucket of information.
at what point do you think your have something for the table?
i looked at the votes to see if anthing made sense, but not really. roden really didn't help themselves, and Takutai went from Curious to no vote to the hammer. there is almost nothing to go on there.
i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon-
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I like making use of actual actions, votes, I like to see if people's votes were consistent with their other ones, if they look out of place, if they are attempts to alter the flow of the game.In post 1390, Morning Tweet wrote:
The only thing you think could possibly be helpful is Rodens wagon and even that isn't useful?In post 1376, geraintm wrote:
i was checking in quickly was allIn post 1339, curiouskarmadog wrote:It not Day 1 anyone. the is a bucket of information.
at what point do you think your have something for the table?
i looked at the votes to see if anthing made sense, but not really. roden really didn't help themselves, and Takutai went from Curious to no vote to the hammer. there is almost nothing to go on there.
i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon
I don't get it, what exactly are you using to determine alignments if not that wagon
I get that a lot of ppl weren't exactly on board with it but ppls opinions are still theirs and they still make AI choices
But that wagon yesterday doesn't help at all.
I'm not clever enough to go off of feelings on how people are playing and that making them scum-
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Not really. Like....no one has stood out to me as having done anything overly bad. Just the normal stuff, no one has had to raise their heads over the parapets.In post 1411, curiouskarmadog wrote:
So you have no suspicion at all?In post 1376, geraintm wrote:
i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon
What are your stances on Daisy?
What are your stances on Greeting?
and for giggles.
where do you stand on HEM?
I've read the last two pages and there is nothing anyone has argued that is anywhere near convincing.-
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@oopps
Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.-
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Sorta yes.In post 1479, furtiveglance wrote:
This is outrageously hypocritical.In post 1477, geraintm wrote: @oopps
Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.
I hadn't been trying to make reads on people though , I was just being useless-
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Oh, everyone can vote me. I know I am offering nothing to this game, but I cannot fake reads.In post 1486, Elements wrote: I can vote Gera-
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So, im going to go through Furtive's posts now and show why i thought they were plucking reads from nothing
vague post just wanting to push at 3 random peopleIn post 963, furtiveglance wrote: I don't like that votecount at all.
Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?
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I'll vote CKD over Roden if I have toIn post 964, Elements wrote:
Clearly notIn post 963, furtiveglance wrote: I don't like that votecount at all.
Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?
Join something that's actually going to happen
now willing to vote Curious, but i don't know why. - they follow this with a vote for Curious
an opinion on Roden, but zero to explain whyIn post 999, furtiveglance wrote:
I genuinely think Roden's townier. I don't have to agree with the perceived consensus...
no explanation why Curious is townie now. Also doesnt unvoteIn post 1308, furtiveglance wrote: Ok I think ckd's recent posting has been towny. Especially interactions with Greeting.
Next Day
Saying CLidd and Greeting remain top of their scum reads, they hadnt mentioned them for a long time. ive been dropped . still unsure why on Day 2 they are top of their listIn post 1366, furtiveglance wrote:
You and Greeting remain my biggest scumreads. I'll go back and look at what Takutai was saying, I feel like they weren't really a UTR so maybe killed for their reads.In post 1359, clidd wrote: That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.
Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.
VOTE: furtiveglance
What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).
1378 - actually gives a reason on why GReeting is Scum - stiff, lifeless and push on them is calculated.
then votes Greeting
In post 1441, furtiveglance wrote: It's interesting to see how fast that Greeting wagon took off compared to my push on clidd yesterday.
I'm gonna vote clidd and see what happens.
VOTE: Clidd
wait... they unvote because they dont like the wagon?
{side note, if Greeting comes back green i will immediately vote Furtive just for this}
next post, just starts pushing more people, still with no reasoning.In post 1466, furtiveglance wrote:
Greeting, Geraint, maybe EmperorIn post 1465, Elements wrote: @furtive if you're so set on clidd, who are the other scum?
I'm not sure
So, that is why i said there is an attempt at content, but they have basically been plucking names from the air and have zero to back it up
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Any wagon on me won't go through today. Scum know that the push is just because I appear An easy elimination , but they'll have to explain themselves tomorrow when I flip green.
They won't be able to.
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I am.gicing oops the benefit of thr doubt about their scum.game till.i see otherwiseIn post 1528, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Karma I knew was gonna have giant wall post that would show how they’re town.
Then from what I remember of daisy she feels like she felt in my last game which was very transparent with her thoughts and generally leading in the right direction. Karma thought she was scum there as well.
That being said with daisy I’m not sure what her scum game is like so I am cautious of her. If she’s pointed to green too many times I would rethink her but it’s day 2 so not quite there yet. Also with karma sring her again creates some wifom for me (it did previous game too) but I stuck with leaving her in my town pool and it worked out-
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There will be enough there it will be awkward for themIn post 1529, Emperor flippyNips wrote:In post 1526, geraintm wrote: Any wagon on me won't go through today. Scum know that the push is just because I appear An easy elimination , but they'll have to explain themselves tomorrow when I flip green.
They won't be able to.
They'll save me for later in the game and assume they can get me then and take out a stronger player now.
I mean. If you go through today it’s not gonna be just scum on you. So who would be said scum that would have to explain themselves?-
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I have given some?In post 1545, curiouskarmadog wrote: man I posted this twice by accident, but still didnt acknowledge.
This is day 2. A BUNCH of shit has gone one....still no thoughts?In post 1500, curiouskarmadog wrote:
why not replace out?In post 1493, geraintm wrote:
Sorta yes.In post 1479, furtiveglance wrote:
This is outrageously hypocritical.In post 1477, geraintm wrote: @oopps
Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.
I hadn't been trying to make reads on people though , I was just being useless-
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@ Morning Tweet
"@gera Why do you assume that scum has to vote you, and like, how are you expecting the town to explain themselves tomorrow from a gera!town lim?"
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because i just assume scum would have to vote for me, i think i've played with enough people in this game that a 100% town majority to vote me off isn't going to happen.
town would just go "dur, geraint is useless, lets vote them out" because i know i havent done anything scummy they can really point to, it would just have to be a vibe thing-
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Care to enlighten me, because it just looked a really random vote for no reason
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yeah, need more than that from you.
So far from you,
i see you were on the Day 1 wagon which eliminated a townie.
You were on the Furtive wagon day 2 at the start, but you did a really, really weird vote on EmperorFlippyNips when their wagon was getting half serious
and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.
For those paying attention, the following were on both end wagons
Klick/Save The Dragons
Elements
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gd im an idiot.In post 1699, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
broIn post 1698, geraintm wrote: and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.
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So, realising that we hit scum with the vote yesterday, just realised that Scum self voted and hammered themselves yesterday ?!
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the only alternative in day 2 was furtive? creating another wagon on someone else wasn't a goer so scum sacrificed Camel?-
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you say cute, i say mortifying.In post 1710, curiouskarmadog wrote:
LOL.....In post 1698, geraintm wrote:yeah, need more than that from you.
So far from you,
i see you were on the Day 1 wagon which eliminated a townie.
You were on the Furtive wagon day 2 at the start, but you did a really, really weird vote on EmperorFlippyNips when their wagon was getting half serious
and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.
For those paying attention, the following were on both end wagons
Klick/Save The Dragons
Elements
CuriousKarmaDog
this is cute.-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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yes, but give me time. i woke up to the game restarting and did a little post. not my fault that post was usless.
well, it was my fault....-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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if anyone can find any evidence i am that good a player to fake that as scum, please and i will see myself outIn post 1714, humaneatingmonkey wrote: gerain hallucinating a gamestate and trying to solve from that gamestate? i guess i can read it town. at least he shows being uninformed and scumhunting initiative.
can i read it scum? maybe he's engaged in some high-level play-dumb tactics. I'm not sure that's likely.
guys i think gerain is town.-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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not disinterested, but when i made that post i was sitting with very little info to go on. for once we havent had a whole slew of town sots run up and claims forced from them, so for once the town PRs are keeping their info close to their chest.In post 1721, curiouskarmadog wrote:
more likely than not he is disinterested town.
but at the very best he isnt bringing anything to the table, and the very worst, he is a distraction.
I don't mean to be a distraction, and i will be trying to post more today when i see something-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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Clidd doesn't feel exceptionally scummy to me, they could be but feels very superficial-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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