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Pine is third party and I want to get it out of the game I doubt the game ends with a jester lynch so just kill it now.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Because that's how a jester works so that's the base I was going off of. I don't think we should go into the mindset of 'just because it's bastard it can happen' if we used that to cloud our judgment on scumhunting or lynching players itself then it'll be hella annoying. What makes you think that calling someone a jester is more likely to come from scum? I don't know why you're trying to box in that I called Pine a Jester when I was simply responding to what Sky said. Seems like a reach/manipulation tactic.In post 225, kuribo wrote:I feel like accusations of jester are more likely to come from scum, least of all "I don't care if we give him a win, just kill it"
It's like, suppose you were a jester, or some other "I must get myself lynched" mechanic. It's a bastard game, designed by LLD. Who's to say you'd win by getting lynched, or even removed from the game?
I was going to scumhunt you for whiteknighting Pine but then I forgot that this game is flipless so white knighting isn't really a good strat since you get 0 credit for it.
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Taking the flapless thing into account I still don't mind Pine getting voted but I value him as a player enough to let him play the game a bit more.
This is just really bad logic to apply to mostly any game considering the fact that no game is the same so trying to use this as a groundrules type scumhunting strat is bad.In post 233, kuribo wrote:The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.
I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.
235 is a pretty bad post. It's basically a giant fence sit saying a lot of nothing. The tone of the post is basically something along the lines of 'here are a few reads but I'm super shaky on all of them.' Then shade on lurkers (for no reason) just to top it all off
VOTE: TemporalLich
Gamma is town btw. Don't ask why at the moment it's in no ones best interest to know why.
If any you need anymore verifcation that Pine is 3p ^^^In post 268, Katsuki wrote:OH I LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL IN THAT WHOEVER HAS THE BLACK KEY LOSES THE GAME
SO UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO BE THAT PERSON WHO LOSES, YOU GUYS CAN JUST CUT DOWN PINE THE HOLDER OF THE BLACK KEY
HEBI/SKY CAN PROBABLY BACK ME UP ON THISI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I suppose the best way to put it is I wished I picked scum because this set up is sadly a challenge in itself. I have nothing to really comment on. It's rather boring.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I would never pick scum. Along with the fact that I called out Pine as well in my first post so why would I be sad? I just want this game to go onto lynch phase so I can go for my next scumread. The filler/not very useful posts aren't doing it for me.In post 458, Katsuki wrote:I guess maria could be sadscum that her scumbuddy pine got powerlynched and that they didn't get a NK inI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'm not one who enjoys talk on mech. I like mechs itself but talking about it is pretty bland on my end. When I saw what the town wincon was I knew I'd have to change my style of play or I wouldn't get a key. So, I figured the best way to do that would be to lynch scumreads until I find enough town to hand the keys off too. I've been reading the whole thread but I have not much I want to say. If you have questions feel free to toss them my way.In post 466, hebichan wrote:If you think it's filler to discuss set up when lynching isn't even our wincon, why are you here?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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TL and Kuriibo in that order.In post 473, hebichan wrote:
Sure, where are your scumreads past pine?In post 471, MariaR wrote:
I'm not one who enjoys talk on mech. I like mechs itself but talking about it is pretty bland on my end. When I saw what the town wincon was I knew I'd have to change my style of play or I wouldn't get a key. So, I figured the best way to do that would be to lynch scumreads until I find enough town to hand the keys off too. I've been reading the whole thread but I have not much I want to say. If you have questions feel free to toss them my way.In post 466, hebichan wrote:If you think it's filler to discuss set up when lynching isn't even our wincon, why are you here?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Good for you?In post 475, kuribo wrote:
You're lucky I try not to argue with scum anymoreIn post 474, MariaR wrote:
TL and Kuriibo in that order.In post 473, hebichan wrote:
Sure, where are your scumreads past pine?In post 471, MariaR wrote:
I'm not one who enjoys talk on mech. I like mechs itself but talking about it is pretty bland on my end. When I saw what the town wincon was I knew I'd have to change my style of play or I wouldn't get a key. So, I figured the best way to do that would be to lynch scumreads until I find enough town to hand the keys off too. I've been reading the whole thread but I have not much I want to say. If you have questions feel free to toss them my way.In post 466, hebichan wrote:If you think it's filler to discuss set up when lynching isn't even our wincon, why are you here?I've seen his town game and it was blatantly obvious very quickly. This isn't it. His posting doesn't show any real hints of solving or thought progression. I see gaps. He just got to point A to point B randomly. I think he's shading slots and just playing set up. It's bad
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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So the events with Pine still has everyone at null for you? This game is flapless you know this. What's gonna make you adjust your reads?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I don't mind being sent in. It's most likely for a key and perhaps the loser dies. That'd be my logical guess. At least it'd be somewhat entertainingI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'd be interested in hearing why that makes you scum. Mostly because I think you're scum for other reasons.
Also yes, I probably should be a lurkaderp if I was V/LA for 3 daysI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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That was a lot of words of mostly GI ranting from the looks of it but I get the bases of what he's trying to say. Although I wish he brought up more examples on what he means with 249I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I haven't half assed the game. The first time I went afk was recently but that was site wide. Besides that I don't really care what you have to say because I haven't been 'half assing' anything.
I get that you're scum and need to try and throw shade but please try and do it in a logical way.
pedit: I don't really care what you have to say I don't find it mean it's a game of mafia who cares.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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1) I was scumreading you before you 'called me out' (if you want to call it that) so that point is mute
2) I don't know or care about your scum meta and how you play the game. I'm not lynching you first so you can relax for a bit. if you want to keep throwing insults because that'll help make you feel better by all means.
Are you gonna ask relevant questions now or waste more of time?
pedit: That answers my question.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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He's trying to pretend to be delusional 'not reading' but that's just a really weak defense. If this is the line of logic he's gonna try to apply it's worthless for me to try and argue it. He wouldn't have this outlook as town because it wouldn't exist if he was really reading.
Now that we have that out of the way. Why are people townreading Hebi? I know people gave her the key but I still don't see much that makes me call her town. It's one of the other 3 slots I don't have a read on.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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In post 841, MariaR wrote:Merci Madame!
I don't think my opinion on the event matters much so go at it.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'm fine with this outcome.In post 853, Alisae wrote:
Pretty much also i think banishing TL is the best play since he's in the lynchpool. And given that we have to banish someone it should be him and not implo or greyiceIn post 849, hebichan wrote:
So why did you default to TL if you didn't scumread him? I agree with the logic of course, just is your read on Implosion and GI that strong?In post 847, Alisae wrote:
I didn't come up with this plan because I SR TL but rather he's the person I would banish out of us 4 and I don't really care about who gets the key as long as TL doesn't get it. Because one of us has to get banished and its a matter of deciding who gets banishedIn post 846, hebichan wrote:Pretty sure implosion townreads TL so you might habe a hard time time with your plan Alisae.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Pretty sure we get rid of TL and move on from there. The people who have the keys seem...mostly fine to me. I can't say it'd be my first choice, but no strong objectionsI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Good for you. Did making this post make you feel better when you knew it wouldn't accomplish anything? I sure hope so.In post 1060, GreyICE wrote:
You're going to get lynched due to not giving a shit, and when you ask me post game if I give a shit, I really, really won't.In post 1057, MariaR wrote:Finally I can start caring now that we're done with thatI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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GreyICE: Probably town, don’t feel like banishing at the moment. I’ve mind-meld with some of his posts and I think he’s pretty townie overall. Wouldn’t be interested in touching.
Hebi-chan Null. A lot of people from what I can recall townread Hebi and I have no reason why that is. I don’t really think her posts have been that impactful as either side. She has a key so I’m not gonna touch them right now, but still, I’m quite ???
Katsuki Slight townread. Katsuki I mostly ignored for most of the game considering it was just him throwing around fake claims, but the bit of content I’ve seen reminds me of another game we played together. I don’t feel like lynching them at the moment. Don’t have much other strong reasoning.
Plum Null. I think I was scumreading Plum before for some reason, but I can’t remember for the life of me what it was. I don’t get that much of a lasting impression on what they post. Same boat as Hebi for the most part.
Kuribo Scum. I already explained this in another post that you can go back and read if you’re that interested in it.
Implosion Slight scumread. The way he’s playing is very much in his scumrange along with how he’s playing around certain slots. ‘But Maria you voted him for the key and didn’t talk about him at banishment’ Both of these are correct, I voted him for the key because I was more confident I could read Implo over Hebi if the time came down to it. The banishment mini-game I didn’t really care about. He had to banish TL or he was outted.
Skygazer Town. Pretty easily town with the way she acted around the Pine slot. I doubt Sky does that as scum. It’s just not really her personality or style to do that. I like her posting and think it’s pretty obvious how town she is
Alisae Slight townread. When Alisae was scum before I had caught onto them quite fast I’m not getting those pings here. This is the closest to a gut read I have.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I've read your stuff. Do you think it should change my opinion or why should I believe anything you're saying?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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As you can (well clearly you can't) tell. I ignore third party claims when it comes to alignment. I don't know what third party wincons LLD would put in this game. So I'm basing it on play and play alone.
It's also very easy for scum to claim third party and go 'haha I'm 3p who cares'
pedit: Perfect. Please get out of this game so I don't need to listen to you anymoreI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Something really must be wrong if you feel the need to insult people for no reason in a game meant for fun. But hey, I'm not you. I'll just help you with your wincon.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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The game is flipless. That's the main reason. Without knowing truly what people will flip the best way to go based off is on play not on if people claim third party or not. If I think a 3p has been towny I'll call em town and leave them alive for now. If I think someone is scummy I can care less what they claim.In post 1119, implosion wrote:
how is one even supposed to parse this sentence I don'tIn post 1108, MariaR wrote:I ignore third party claims when it comes to alignment.
I never said this wasn't in my scumrange so I don't know where you're getting that idea. If I was scum people would be townreading me because scum is stupidly easy to play at the moment. Of course this game isn't out of my range. But the question you need to ask isn't 'could this be in her scum range.' What you need to ask is 'would I play scum like this' and obviously this game I wouldn't. I would never put scum first just to win. It's not enjoyable right now because of how easy playing scum is and some of the...interesting reads people come up with on me.In post 1120, implosion wrote:I'm also deeply curious how my play is "very much in my scumrange" and yours isn't very much in yours, unless you think people should be justified in scumreading you here?
bc it'd be a huge insult to your scum play to say that your play here isn't within your scum range :\I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Do you see me trying to get Sky a key? No, I understand she’s third party but her play has been towny so I am fine leaving her alive. I don’t why this is such a big issue if I call her towny or not when we know she’s a third party. What, should I said ‘Towny third party’ instead of just Town?In post 1126, implosion wrote:I just.
Did you read the town win condition??? Do you think sky might be town fake claiming third party???????
leaving alive for now, sure, but why are you refusing to acknowledge that sky is useless to the town by virtue of *DEFINITELY* not being town, and therefore useless to call town??
Why are you trying to state exaggerations for no reason? See, this is where I have an issue with what you’re saying. Because I am clearly not implying half of what you’re saying yet you get to this point how?In post 1126, implosion wrote:Yep, because 100% of the town townread you the entire game in mlp....... your scum game is so magically good that people automatically townread you, and your town game is in contrast so bad that half of this game is scumreading you.
When I’m town people start to scumread me period. That’s just how it works because people can’t read me. Not all of MLP was townreading me so what? A lot of people were even when I was getting bussed to hell by both of you. I haven’t lost a scumgame in ages because it’s just that simple. It’s boring. Not a challenge. You get the idea
What am I suppose to be engaging with exactly? No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum. It’s just ‘yeah I’d get rid of Maria’ Why? Because I’m not towny? What exactly should I be saying in this example. ‘No guys I’m town’ I really want to know what you think I should be doing here. I’m arguing the way I am because it’s the only way I’m allowed to when no one gives me room to work with.In post 1126, implosion wrote:It's really frustrating to hear you arguing this way. I want you to engage with the thread if you're town, Maria
When I saw the town wincon I laughed at LLD because getting people to trust me enough to have a key would be hard enough considering who I am. I didn’t expect it to be like this so I had to change my style. I don’t think I could do anything to get a key so I’m lynching my scumreads until I die. If I get a key great. But I’m not expecting it. I don’t need to step anything up. It’s not my job. I’ll let my actions speak for meIn post 1126, implosion wrote:If you're town, are you going to be part of that coalition? Because you need to step up your game if you plan to be.
You do know I made this exact statement in how I hate scum 2 games ago correct? Do you think I would pick scum for an easy win yet hate playing the game? Is that what you think I’d do? That’s a question by the way I’m really curious.In post 1126, implosion wrote:The "scum isn't fun right now" arguments are all well and good but literally everyone purporting to be town is going to be making some kind of argument like that and I honestly don't buy them from you above other people.
This isn’t even happening nor is it true. You can’t sort me because you can’t read my slot yet you’re trying to make it out like you’re trying. No, no one here has tried so please don’t give me that line. I'm willing to work with people but no one has given me that optionIn post 1127, implosion wrote:I feel like you're just being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate, and you're refusing to make yourself sortable beyond "I wouldn't pick scum".I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I think I liked it better when you were openly trying to be an asshole. It was more entertaining that wayI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I doubt this game has that many third party that we would lose the town majority in 2 or 3 lynches.In post 1224, Not Known 15 wrote:There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Considering Katsuki has faked a guilty before I don't know if I fully believe the fact he has a guilty.
If anything I wanna talk to Ali more about Implo than anything else.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I mean this in the sense of do we want to work on keys now for the well or do we have more people we want dead.In post 1445, Alisae wrote:
no we have to wait to lynch someoneIn post 1443, MariaR wrote:Do we need to keep lynching or are we almost ready here.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Yes, I can see that. I'm asking what the more important objective is.
Do we have problems with who has the keys
do we need 1 person dead really badly etc. Because we're kinda just lynching to our heart's content at the moment.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I know 4 people who are gonna have keys.
1 person who needs to die
that means 2 more death and 2 more key
just need time to sort it outI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Okay. after talking in the hood. It's best we vote Katsuki here not Alisae. I don't think Alisae has done anything outside there scum range. While I've seen classic things from Katsuki that make it hard for me to believe they're scum. Not to say I think Alisae is lock scum or something. But give the key to Kat.
VOTE: KatsukiI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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NK15 kuribo wants you to state "I am sorry for my sins against the town, all hail Kuribo the unquestioned King of darkness, long may he reign, blessed be unto the Murdercock and its most righteous keeper. I am deeply sorry for having angered him, and I prostate myself before him and beg his infinite mercy, o ye dark lord spare me that I may serve."I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Not important. The important thing is I now have a key yay me.In post 1558, Alisae wrote:Claire why do u have a keyI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Na I'm town.In post 1615, GreyICE wrote:*sigh*
So Maria, are you some third party bullshit too?
Because it would at least confirm everything Skygazer says is utter horseshit.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I have the red keyIn post 1616, hebichan wrote:VOTE: skygazer
Tbh I have gotten pretty lost the past few days,
We need a key list, a key key if you will.
Hebi: green
Maria: ?
Gi: yellow
Plum: ????I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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