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Claim: Scyther
I was being rushed.
Vage hint: Most abilities won't affect me as they should.
I don't think roles have much to do with names.
Xine shouldn't have claimed, but withholded his/her claim and if unsure of him/herself, wait until a likely scum survives a Day.
But whatever, then..
I can't post b/c you people are spamming!!!!!
vote Nicol
I don't like "Where's the rest of the Town" post. Seems like it's pretending to be useful and look like one of the bunch.
I also don't like your bandwagon to the list idea.This time, I'll not care.-
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What kind of pokemon wiki do you use????gandalf5166 wrote:Oh, okay. I didn't play all the way through gold, so I guess I wouldn't know. Plus a wiki told me that he didn't come in until Ruby. Problem was, the wiki ignored any games before Ruby and Emerald. >.<
bulbapedia is the best, imo.
xite is basically confirmed town for claiming a confirmable PR.
Can we focus our attention away from the pokemon fanboy orgy here for a second? At least random vote.
I'd bet that I know the most about the pokemon games from gen 3 to 4 than all ofyou, but that's beside the point. Knowledge about pokemon here does little more than verify claims and encourage off-topic convos.This time, I'll not care.-
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It was already established that he wants to appear useful.Xite91 wrote:Although, now that I think about it, this won't really do much good since it only has to do with setup spec. and gaming the mod... Why do I not think of these things BEFORE I post???
Nicol, is what is your reasoning for asking?
@gandalf: is the reason I got no flavor because I was a quick sub-in?This time, I'll not care.-
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If you find something scummy, you point it out. Not doing so helps who?Espeonage wrote:
lol. Cases should be posted if you have finished building the case. Why post a small case when you can wait a page or two so you can catch them doing the same thing again adn again and thus have a much more compelling case.Prox wrote:Cases should be posted.
I suspect Espeonage is faking having a case.unvote; vote Espeonage
If you don't have a case, say so. Don't pretend.
PREVIEW EDIT: I spy a blatant bandwagon.This time, I'll not care.-
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Meh...fine. I was not inconsistent in any of my posts. Everyone else can just explain what they want until you use any of your points in an actual case and I care more.mikeburnfire wrote:First of all, if the mod allowed somebody to be "Watertype", then two eevee's doesn't phase me.
Secondly, I must repeat myself. If you think a player has been 'misrepped', then point out where. You can't just say that I was wrong, then not say why. If you're going to get your panties in a bunch, then ignore the summary and only pay heed to the bolded words.
Ok, this is a little unintelligent.gandalf5166 wrote:Gandalf case comingsoon, and not immediately, cause he has to go make one up real quick.
I know what you're thinking, but what kind of mod gives a person who chooses Officer Jenny a cop role?vezokpiraka wrote:Gandalf is scummy again. I believe he is scum. DIE.
Someone claimed Officer Jenny?
Intresting.
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Oops.
Before I subbed in, as the mod was in a rush, I was told I could be ANYTHING.jimfinn wrote:I'm suspicious primarily of you and of Espeo right now more on a gut basis than anything, and the two eevee thing makes me think that one of them is lying scum, not sure which. I am refusing to vote until I get another vote count however. I don't see any major scumtells, aside from the possible two eevee thing. And I do think a full nameclaim now will help us, not immediately, but after N1 actions are revealed so we can see how the mod is relating actions to the role names. I do recommend that the claim be made now, for role-based reasons I will not specify. I also am a little suspicious of xite, just due to the oddness of his role with respect to flavor.
It's just WIFOM that way.Switz wrote:Wow, total fail on my part. I was actually talking to MBF. I agree with jim that one of the Eevees might be scum, I just know it's not me.This time, I'll not care.-
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vezokpiraka wrote:LOL.this laptop is frickin stupid.
I thouched the mousepad with kmy hand and it switched words.
That should read.
If I need that person lynched cause I am sure he is scum I will put more analysis.FoS
xDNicolBolas wrote:Welcome drmy... Can i call you shotty?
Psychic Powers told me you'd be here.drmyshottyizsik wrote:Vote: Xite
for old times sake, jk
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Newbtown.switz wrote:Long version: Throughout this game, Gandalf's been playing very aggressively. He's one of the more frequent posters, but despite this, there's very little content in his posts. In fact, I think it's safe to say there's no scumhunting in any of his play so far.
Well, I've never been miller before. I'm not miller right now, but I don't want to say exactly what my role is.bv wrote:Prox is worse though. Softclaiming a scan problem, then not elaborating is a pretty basic scum tactic of claiming Miller.
Your attack is WIFOM and seems disingenuous (I love this new word of mine).
unvote; vote bv
Because seriously, if your best read is on the WIFOM of not believing someone's softclaim, there is an issue.This time, I'll not care.-
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In. Gimme a while to get my wits together. It will happen, though.Prox: So are you in or out? If it's in, let's have some content; make yourself useful.
magikarp doesn't prove Espeonage's alliance in the least. I say we ignore the claim and [only] lynch him if he's scummy.This time, I'll not care.-
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Why did Esp answer my question with a Day 2 event..?
I really need to focus more. Still don't have that desktop I need to analyze, but the things I plan to focus on:
-Switz iso. Period. Something just doesn't sit right with his posts for me
-Shotty wagon. This has happened in all my games including shotty, but gandalf being here should've made things different. The recurrent shotty wagon usually seems to do well to help search out opportunism, but can also mislead the Town.
- each claim: just...wierd.
As for my role, I'd have claimed already if I thought I should.This time, I'll not care.-
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Hi, I'm a Nexus. I'd care more, but I just realized doing this will basically make scum avoid me- or not, at their own risk.
For/@ Esp:
Why a deliberate mislynch??? I mean, one really can't trust someone they believe to be town not to use his antitown power?Espeonage wrote:Ok now I may have been the one that hammered but no more deliberate mislynches.
Now I hammered because with as many power roles as likely the game is both liable to be cracked by night actions and swingy. I would rather lynch someone who is less importnant member to town that a potentially more important member which could swing the game towards scum. Sadly that didn't work out seeing as we lost a cop. Now I would like to hear from gandalf.
Thing about this is that you overrated your role.Espeonage wrote:
If you are town you sir are an idiot. I actually have a role that can clear myself at night hence why I can do scummy things in the name of town progress. If you are scum it wouldn't matter anyway because you wouldn't have helped me out. Where is bv and did anyone do anything to him night 0.gandalf5166 wrote:I roleblocked Espeonage. I suspect that I may have blocked the mafia kill, and that Xite shot vezok. I'll have to look back at Xite's posts first though.
This is not what I expected. I thought you were testing gandalf to see if he'd clear you, as suggested in the above quote I commented as overrated.Espeonage wrote:Ah sorry I thought you were asking about tonight because it is a different reason as last night.
As for last night not sure. Snap decision mostly.
Of all people, you sent the magikarp to Gandalf, your biggest suspect to clear yourself. I just don't get it.
Why?Espeonage wrote:I highly doubt there is a scumdoctor.
If you had no plan, why did you change your mind?Espeonage wrote:I was going to give one to mbf just coz but i changed at the last minute because I had no particular plan.
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Sigh.Espeonage wrote:1. It's drmyshotty. I have seen him do some strange things.
2. Not really look at the balance. The fact that this wasn't advertised as bastard means should I prove my role it would also prove innocence.
3. Can't really make a comment on that. I made a choice and ran with it.
4. Stupid role.
5. The fact that I am now under scrutiny and have a purpose for the use of my role now.
1. Whatever. At least you're outright about it.
2. We'll agree to disagree.
3. But why? What did you do? Pick gandalf's name from a hat?
4. So?
5. I don't understand. Are you explaining a question about D/N1 with an example from D2 again?
I just can't put my finger on it. Something isn't right about you.
Why?Jarti wrote:It's pretty much pseudo-claiming armour. Which is easy for scum to do and explain why they live to endgame.
Regardless, it compliments Lightning Rod from my perspective so I could the mod putting both in. I'm fine with the claim because of that.
Let's kill jimfinn.
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Why do you feel this way?gandalf5166 wrote:
No. It's bullshit, that's why.Espeonage wrote:@Gandalf: If I successfully send you a magikarp will you accept that I am town? If not why? If that reason is because there is no indication of alignment put yourself in the mods shoes and go back to the first question.
No.gandalf5166 wrote:
But I'm kind of confirmed town >.>Xite91 wrote:I think he should target someone else, like Jarti or someone that's not under a ton of speculation. Maybe espy should give a list like i did? Then the person can claim it.
Really?gandalf5166 wrote:OOh, that last post sounds desperate. Like there's some reason he needs to be kept alive until D2. Also, even if we believe DMSIS's claim, it really seems like it's more likely to be a scum role.
Roleblocks don't work that way, sir.gandalf5166 wrote:Yes, but if scum chose NOT to night kill, then it could be useful to scum, by confusing cops and such. And I'm going to claim, simply because it rather invalidates DMSIS's claim. I'm a roleblocker. So paradox would in fact result. Lynch lynch lynch lynch lynch.
And you lynched him anyways?gandalf5166 wrote:I'm sorry, I figured that DMSIS had answered that question for me. The thing is, DMSIS has these little catch words he uses as scum. Misrep, OMGUS, active lurking, etc. Also, he votehops like a three year old on crack cocaine. If you look at his town games, he mostly just bandwagons and setup speculates. And then there's the line: "Trying to keep suspicion away from himself", which he hasn't used so far this game, but I'm sure it will come soon. In other words, if he's town, you'll be almost certain he's scum. When he's scum, you'll think he's scum, but then you'll decide that he's probably newb town.
wtf?gandalf5166 wrote:Trust me, vezo is town.
I could've claimed to have scanned bv last Night if I wanted.gandalf5166 wrote:
Care to explain?Prox wrote:I don't like Nicol's claim.
Except he's so weird...NicolBolas wrote:Xite- you have to admit, he is more confirmed than most people here.
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"Okay, so you think that me and NB are on a scumteam? You're funny."
Or...just one if you is scum.
"Are you gonna be more specific than weird? This is the way I play as confirmed town, or are you referring to my play pre-scan?"
Both. You shouldn't start playing like you're confirmed town.
"Where in this post do I say that I think he's town?"
You don't. But I could c/p that into any game including drmyshottyizsik to say that he's town, too.
Just to note, I'm pretty conscious of shotty's play-style as well.This time, I'll not care.-
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Also, this post has 3 lines.gandalf5166 wrote:
I think MBF is the only one who hasn't.Prox wrote:Is this how everyone else feels, or are there those who believe this string of claims?
Could everyone list which claims they believe, find fishy, or outright don't believe?
Also, I'm not sure everyone's nameclaimed.This time, I'll not care.-
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Ok then.
Let's do an expiriment, then.
Living Players (10):
jimfinn
NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
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bv310
Jarti
Xite91
Switz
mikeburnfire
Living Players who Have Not Claimed(5/10):
jimfinn
NicolBolas
Espeonage
gandalf5166
Prox
bv310
Jarti
Xite91
Switz
mikeburnfire
Half the players ruled out.
Of the 5 remaining, who are scummiest?This time, I'll not care.-
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And that's the plan for today. We can let another Night occur and gather from that, then worry about the claimers with this new info.
Almost Each role is confirmable. However, xite's lack of a vig kill means we have a scum roleblocker. Or an unspoken-for town RBer. Or a lie of a wizard-alias-user. Or two of the former.
Esp gives a magikarp to someone WHO IS MOST LIKELY TOWN. We shouldn't discuss who this is obviously. I just hope you use better discretion this time.
Nicol targets someone with an ability, and, if ignorant of what will occur, assumes that it will kill.
Xite targets one of the scummiest persons with her ability- we should be sure that they don't target the same person.
Gandalf's role is not confirmable.This time, I'll not care.-
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*facepalm*gandalf5166 wrote:Look, Prox. Believe claim =/= believe town.
Sigh...which claimants, then?
You disagree with Esp's logic about his role?
Or do you think Nicol's scan was by scum?
Or that I'm a scum nexus?
Or do you think xite, who claimed vig [vigs are always town unless not vgs], is SK?
Or do you know that you're actually a RBer with an antitown alliance?
@xite: I can't believe you! You have Esp in all his failitude, and decide that I am more likely to be scum? There isn't even a valid attack on me. Also, answer my question.
Really, I just don't understand you guys. You just keep doin it wrong, and you can't all be scum.This time, I'll not care.-
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why would the lack of a second kill make you look scummy?gandalf5166 wrote:Why would I block Xite if I were scum? It would be incredibly obvious that I was scum, because there wouldn't be a second kill. Or at least, that would be what I would think, had I not managed to survive this long today. I'm actually incredibly surprised that I didn't get quick-lynched today.This time, I'll not care.-
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Her killgandalf5166 wrote:
Because Xite is a claimed vig, if her kill suddenly disappeared, the claimed RB would be the first suspect. Also, I have a question for you guys. If I had decided to roleblock Xite, how do you think I was going to keep myself from being lynched? Who would I have claimed to RB? I hadn't received the Magikarp message yet(not that I did, but I'm posting from that perspective), so how was I going to cover my ass?Prox wrote:
why would the lack of a second kill make you look scummy?gandalf5166 wrote:Why would I block Xite if I were scum? It would be incredibly obvious that I was scum, because there wouldn't be a second kill. Or at least, that would be what I would think, had I not managed to survive this long today. I'm actually incredibly surprised that I didn't get quick-lynched today.hasdisappeared. You're thinking in absolutes.This time, I'll not care.-
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No power. Fed by wagoners. But, good job with the whole "moving attention away" thing.gandalf5166 wrote:I've been investigated and come up innocent on a cop result that could only be insane in an incredibly bastard setup. That's about as confirmed as you can get. He COULD be my scumbuddy, but that does that really look likely to you? Bah. Why am I defending myself. Let's try pressuring someone who might by some astronomical chance actually be scum, guys. What the hell happened to the Prox wagon?
We have a claimed vig.gandalf5166 wrote:The thing is, I think nicol will probably be the NK tonight. Granted, scum will be confirming me, but they'll also be stopping him from using his other abilities, which could be very damaging.
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