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You shouldn't hide your identity behind an Alt!ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Vampire?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Adel, dear, you're not making it easier on yourself.discordian algorithm wrote:vote: Zindarasfor lies and lies spat from behind a mask she call 'truth'.
You've vote-hopped out and about. For very few reasons. I don't see why you would do that as town.SPAG wrote:lol and you really think if i was mafia i'd be that thick?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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As an aside, since we're now in the random phase, I think this is the perfect time to discuss Formula One. So what's everyone's story? Did you just sign up for this game because it was Mafia, or do you all actually follow F1?
Personally, I'm a huge fan. The first race I watched was Monaco '96 (probably also the best race I've ever watched, too, ironically). I was immediately a fan of David Coulthard and I've been so ever since. I haven't missed a race since '97, except those races where there simply was no tv nearby. The standard of races has unfortunately deteriorated somewhat over the years, for which I mostly blame the rules changes that were made to make the sport safer. The impossibility of slipstreaming is annoying to say the least. Luckily, we have had two nice races this year. I thoroughly enjoyed Bahrein and the rain spectacle we had on the Nürburgring. I laughed a lot when the rain came (especially as six cars exited the track in the same turn, one after another).ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You know, if you haven't noticed before, in the random phase, people usually don't really care where their vote is. You did. I don't like that.SPAG wrote:i've vote hopped around because it was in the random phase
My avatar isdeadscilent wrote:LOOK AT THE PINK!!sopinker than yours.
>.>
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Woah. That's the fourth vote on SPAG. I don't really like the speed there.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Deadscilent is at 3 votes, with 7 to lynch. A vote now wouldn't bring her even close to lynch.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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EBWOP: As far as the "who's to know she wasn't lurking" thing, that's crap. Who's to know she was? Being gone is a null tell, it happens to everyone.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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discordian, what the hell was the use of referring to ongoing games? He's alive in every single one of them.Noneof those games are in any way relevant to this game or give any indication of SPAG being scum.
Huge FoS: discordian algorithmShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Yes. Yes, you should. That's how I do it.discordian algorithm wrote:^- an example of why newbies should be careful when using alts. I think I should start using a different browser for my alt. Sorry about that.
This isn't the way to fix it, Adel. In fact, if people see you as a different person from your original account, it will only make you more likely to be lynched, as this account does not have the metagame your main account has.SPAG wrote:Yes my bandwagon certainly grew very quicky. Ah well people can do what they want, however, at some point i'm gonna go through and take notes on everyone, try and work out who i think is mafia.
I seem to get this in all the games i'm in, people don't like my style because it's different.
Once I've finished a couple of games with you, I think I'll be able to better explain what you're doing wrong.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Adel, you're being silly. If you're not going to play with your main account, why bother using another account to play games? In fact, why use an alt at all? Everyone who has a metagame read on you (and would therefore matter) already knows it's you.
You have your style. People will get used to it at a point. I wouldn't rush into changing your style too quickly, and if you have to, you shouldn't do it in a forced way. If you want to change your playtsyle, look at great players, read their games. You'll see the point of their playstyles in the end.
I'd say your current playstyle resembles that of Glork the most, so if I were you, I'd take a look at a couple of his games.
SPAG's not an alt. People do play on other places than this forum, y'know.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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As an aside, happy scumday IH! <3ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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ojpower has a lot to explain.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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This is not the time to quickly wagon another guy into death.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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This isn't just a vote, though. This was a hammer. I really don't like that.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Oh, yes, of course. You're right.
As an aside, you made the 6th vote on SPAG yesterday. Don't you think you were being a little bit hasty there?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Dissy is clearly King Rabies, partnered to Feminine Maple-Leafs.
This was not a smart move. You might as well have claimed your entire role name and role.
And, personally, it appears you have claimed Masons. Mason Traitors are more likely to push for a Mason claim than regular Masons, soFoS: discordian algorithm.
You are one hundred percent correct in your train of thought.SirWario wrote:By asking for a replacement, we're letting ojpower get off the hook with the hammer. His replacement won't be able to explain the reason for it, so everyone will either lynch him for it anyway or just let it go. We seriously need oj, himself, to give his reasons for placing the final vote on SPAG. If he doesn't then he's getting my vote too.
Just wanted to point that out. Asking for ojpower to explain and asking for him to be replaced are contradictory statements.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I see nothing in SPAG's posting that says "I have a teammate".discordian algorithm wrote:I'm not a mason. I have no way of contacting my teammate othre than through this thread, and I don't even know if he is also town-aligned. SPAG claimed to have a teammate
Doesn't work. For one, it would break the game for the town. For two, it's impossible to prove without all of them dying (or being confirmed by other means, but that tends to be limited anyway), which invalidates the process. What is the point of confirming someone who's already confirmed? For three, everyone has a teammate. By definition. Because that's how Formula One works.so I figured I would put out only the first two letter so that if we are able to prove later in the game that townies are always teammates with townies my partner and I would be able to confirm each other, me by presenting the first two letter, and him by providing the rest of the letters.
Everyone who has even the tiniest bit of knowledge about F1 can fill in the letters. The amount of possible roles is extremely limited.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Games are not easily broken. In this case, not only would it have been impossible (as, as I said, it's impossible to prove that all townies have teammates, and no scumbags have), it would also entail a mass claim, which doesn't help us.discordian algorithm wrote:I think every townie has a responsibility to try to break the game for the town. Hello, that is called "winning".
Mein Gott.Unfortunately I don't even have the tiniest bit of knowledge about F1, I thought the names were fictional.
You read the opening post. You read the flavour. You read the thread, supposedly, which means you had to have read this post. You mean you have joined a game which was clearly themed, you read the posts, which made it even clearer that it was themed, and yet you didn't realize it was themed and you didn't bother doing even the slightest bit of research about the theme? You claimed your role name while you had absolutely no idea who you were talking about? You thought you could break the game with flavour you didn't knowanythingabout?
*puts his head in his hands*ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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If pulsewidth is wrong to assume it was random, then SPAG is equally wrong to assume it wasn't.Polter wrote:One, it's nice how you don't bother reading up on SPAG's side of the argument, instead claiming that a statement was in random voting stage, which obvoiusly makes it a random vote. Who the hell knows what is a random vote or not? I could make a random vote right now if I wanted to, just roll a die and stick with it. Or, I could make a deadset vote in the random stage, just based on one post from someone else.
Because she did something which is bad for the town. Her claim was badly timed and didn't help the town at all. As I pointed out, Mason Traitors (and I would compare what she seems to have to Masons) are more likely to claim out of the blue than town Masons.I believe DA to be innocent, though the fact that blatantly denying having an alt on the first page WAS a little rude.
Why are you all FoSing on DA? Because she was busy trying to figure out how many games SPAG has played. She said she was dead set on getting SPAG to -1, and he didn't even bother giving her any answers.
This does not clear Dissy from anything. This can be said aboutGuess what? You all brought SPAG to -1. In fact, you all LYNCHED him. Well, now that DA has gotten what she wanted and then some, you have all accomplished the whim of what was called an "artifical reasoning."
I'm not really sure why you would all suspect DA of being scum when 6 other people joined in the grand lynching of her target. It was YOUR ACTIONS, not hers, that killed SPAG. Great to know, eh?anyoneon the SPAGon.
To be honest, Polter, your eagerness to clear Dissy is somewhat...unsettling.
Votes without addressing anything, without explanation. Seems like OMGUS. I do not like this post.discordian algorithm wrote:unvote vote:pulsewidthIs Polter buddying up to me? Possibly, but my magic 8-ball says "NOT LIKELY"
I assumed that the Formula 1 theme had something to do with a crazy mechanic. If the theme was a tv show or movie I was not familiar with, I wouldn't have signed up. Now I feel like a liability to the town. Damn.
Dissy switches to ojpower in 169. Another one I don't like.
I do not understand this paragraph.Polter wrote:@DA's first post: No shit. But there ARE ten other people, you realize? If I voted the same as you, it would get both of us lynched.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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We were waiting for your explanation. We asked for it at the start of Day 2, but only now we got it.
And, personally, it doesn't convince me in the least. You don't hammer people for being a distraction.Vote: ojpower
I'd also like toFoS: deadscilent. I think she's wagoning a bit too much, first with a fourth vote on SPAG Day One, then with a fourth vote on Polter Day Two.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Mod, what are the deadline rules?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Dude, you have 20 hours or something to get a post in, that's more than enough.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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/agree wholeheartedly.SirWario wrote:Right now we need imput from you, not worthless votesShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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No, you don't. This is a 10 page thread. It shouldn't take you too long to read it.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Time to do some analysis.
Polter:
Post 1:
Random vote.
Post 2:
At this time, SPAG was already lynched, so nothing useful here.
Post 3:
Polter starts the day by voting pulsewidth.
Post 4:
This is Polter's first serious post, following up on his vote. I've already responded to this. I think Polter's too eager to clear Dissy. I think his argument against pulsewidth isn't very strong either.
Post 5&Post 6&Post 7:
Proving a point to pulse.
Post 8:
I do not really see the point of this post.
Post 9:
Continuation of Post 9.
Post 10:
Continuation of the bantering.
Post 11:
Eh, slight pro-town vibes from this post.
Post 12&Post 13&Post 14:
Some discussion about inactivity. Asks Wario why he wasn't around and answers the same question thrown back at him.
Post 15:
I don't really get this post. I think Dissy's point here is fairly strong. The stuff about pulse asking for a replacement for ojpower has nothing to do with the quote. Polter also unvotes.
Post 16:
I don't really understand the Polter-Dissy interaction here.
I don't really know what to think of Polter. He's done some fairly controversial things. His push on Pulsewidth is mainly due to Pulsewidth's push on Dissy.
One of the things which makes me feel he is town is the speedy wagon which seems to be developing on him now. Overall, I have to say I'm leaning to town.
ojpower/DeathSauce:
Post 1:
Random vote.
Post 2:
And here we have the unexplained hammer. I think this is a huge scumtell, personally.
Post 3:
Note how oj completely ignores the SPAG-situation from Day One and the questions asked of him. Note also how his reasons for voting Dissy here are plain horrible and just flat-out not true.
Post 4:
And here we get the elusive explanation for the hammer. Apparently, SPAG was a distraction. Do I even have to explain why this is bad?
Post 5:
Calls Dissy scum for not attacking pulsewidth. Bad logic here. There is a huge addition of information between that statement from Dissy and her behaviour regarding you.
Post 6:
Note how he doesn't actually answer the question asked of him.
Post 7:
OMGUS.
Post 8:
Irrelevant.
Post 9:
DeathSauce's entry. A good post, though he limits himself to attacking Dissy, rather than defending himself.
Post 10:
Further arguments against Dissy. Though I agree about the buddying thing, I'm not sure I agree with the teammate stuff. I don't really see it as a scum thing to do.
Post 11:
Read on.
Post 12:
Ireallydislike people posting "Either is good".
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I don't really see why this would be the only reaction to IH's post.
Post 14:
Switches to Polter...why?
Overall, my read on DeathSauce/ojpower is worse than the read I have on Polter. I thought DeathSauce's entry (Posts 9 and 10) were pretty good, but his subsequent posting has been somewhat lacking. Ojpower's posts are just plain horrible. Very scummy.
I will take a closer look at Dissy in the morning and decide on my vote (for now, it'll stay on DeathSauce). I would also advise Polter to claim, since it looks like he's going to die.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I think ChaosOmega's vote here is far scummier than DeathSauce's. I can live with DeathSauce's argument. Self-preservation is natural.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Well, we need one more vote to even secure a lynch, so Polter's not in trouble right now...ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'm going to think long and hard if I like No Lynch or a Polter lynch less, then come back to vote (or keep the one I have now).ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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EBWOP: A DeathSauce lynch would still be preferred, so I'm keeping my vote on him for now.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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No, we need at least 4 votes to get a lynch at all (see the deadline rules JDodge posted last page).pulsewidth wrote:Actually Zindaras,
JDodge wrote: In case of a tie the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched.
So, even though there is a tie, Polter will still get lynched at the deadline.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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The tie would have to be at 4 votes, as far as I understand.
I think the unclear deadline rules warrant an extension.
*is good at wheedling extensions out of mods* >.>ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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We have more than 2 days left to do some scumhunting. This is not an acceptable vote, IH.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Comments on scumminess would be much preferred over this, Roach. You're not a spectator. Please don't act like one.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Unvote.
There will be no hammering until Polter is back.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Mod, please prod Dissy.
How many hours until deadline?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Post or die, scum.
Vote: discordian algorithm
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That one quote and reply is all you got from the last few pages? I find that to be highly disturbing. Also, good jorb insulting the scum, that was a good move. They're gonna love you now. Anyway, onto the next.
Unvote, Vote: Roach
Post or die, scum!ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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So, what was this all about?discordian algorithm wrote:
That was all I felt like sharing. I'll connect a couple of dots for you tomorrow. I'm sure you will make it as wellZindaras wrote:That one quote and reply is all you got from the last few pages?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Great. Let's do nothing and wait for the scum to come to us!Roach wrote:Since I haven't been caught up and I'm against all forms of metagaming (whatever that is), I'll just bide my time and watch for developments for D3, meaning:
FoS: RoachShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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IJDodge wrote:Xdaamno replaces Polter.reallywant Roach to post analysis.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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This thread is 15 pages. Do you need months to read 15 pages? We could be at LyLo right now.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Please hold off with replacing Dissy. We need her to explain her actions of late yesterday.
Wario, as far as the lurkervoting thing goes, I think I made it quite clear that I wanted DeathSauce lynched. I only switched votes because his lynch was already pretty much assured and I wanted more people to post.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I do not understand this post.Xdaamno wrote:Vote: Roach. 3's good at deadline, I've been wanting to do this for a while.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Everything past the vote. What does 3 being good at deadline have to do with anything? Why have you been wanting to do it for a while, and if so, why didn't you do it earlier?Xdaamno wrote:
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I do not understand this post.Xdaamno wrote:Vote: Roach. 3's good at deadline, I've been wanting to do this for a while.
Uh, OK. Which part?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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So, basically, you're leaning towards me being scum not on the basis of my behaviour (which, seeing how we're in a 16-page thread, is more than enough), but rather on the basis of a complete and utter WIFOM argument.SirWario wrote:Right now, I'm leaning towards Zindaras as scum, though it is all evidence I have is circumstantial. I have nothing in the way of supicious activity from the game. But I can't grasp how Zindaras is still alive. He's the most experienced in the game, yet the scum continue to leave him alone, despite him receiving absolutely no suspicion for basically the entire game. I would think the scum would want to take him out quickly due to his experience level and lack of any evidence against him. Though this argument boils down to wifom, it can still warrant aFOS:Zindaras
Nightkills are not even close to being a good argument. Every night, the Mafia kill someone. It doesn't necessarily matter who they kill, as long as they kill. This logic is extremely flawed. To suggest I'm scum based on complete WIFOM actions from people who are trying to mislead us is preposterous.
Also, I'll have you note that I survive 40% of my games. So it's not like my continued survival is that odd.
No, he's completely right. We're almost definitely in LyLo here, which means that a mass claim should be made.SirWario wrote:^ sarcasm,correct?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Reaching is scummy, not complimentary.SirWario wrote:Zindy, I would take it more as a compliment. I really don't have much to work with at the moment so I may be reaching.
That was probably an early-game mass claim. The farther you get in a game, the better it becomes.I wasn't sure if the massclaim was a joke or not. A few games where I saw massclaims, the person who proposed it got highly admonished.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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As far as mass claim methodology goes:
-The dice feature. Incorruptible. We simply roll a die (in-thread), and then the person with that number claims. Completely random, though.
-Scumminess. We simply take a vote for who we want to claim first, wait for the claim, then vote on the next, and so on. Not random, but the Mafia can seriously influence this one.
-Claimmaker: We let one person we have a lot of trust in decide the entire order. If we pick Town, we're fine, but picking Mafia gives them massive influence.
-Picking: We decide on the first. He claims, then picks the next one to claim, so on and so on. We'll always have some Mafia influence this way, but we'll also always have some Town influence.
I prefer scumminess.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Claimmaker is really only done if there is a confirmed innocent. I copy-pasted this from a newbie game where I posted the same thing.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I had a busy time at that point and I missed the deadline, yes.SirWario wrote:Hey Zindaras, were you away during the dealine or something? I'm suprised you didn't get a vote in.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I already said we should do picking.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Oshit, that's what happens when you post without thinking.
Scumminess, yes. Scumminess.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'd like Roach, personally.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Our lynch was pretty much decided at that point, so I decided to throw around my weight a bit and see what would come up.Oman wrote:I don’t like the “post or die scum” bits cause we’re a bit close to the deadline and you’re throwing votes on lurkers.
I also don't understand why you wanted to go first so badly.
As for my claim:
David Coulthard, Townie. (I laughed so much when I got my PM)
I believe Shanba's claim. It makes a lot of sense.
This presents us with an interesting situation:
If SirWario is telling the truth, pulse could be scum and Wario blocked the scum's kill on Night 1.
If Shanba is telling the truth, SirWario could be scum. I find two roleblockers in one game fairly unlikely, so in that case, Wario lied about his targets.
This isn't rocket science, so neither of these are very sure. I am also still suspicious of Roach, now Oman.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I don't have a teammate.
Note that most-all of our dead townies don't have a teammate either. Jenson Button, Takuma Sato, Alexander Wurz.
Wario, does your PM speak of a teammate?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'll post a reply to this after Wario answers my question.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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We know who the dead guys' potential teammates were since this game is based on the real-world sport (something which you should definitely have noticed in a reread).
Jenson Button's teammate is Rubens Barrichello.
Takuma Sato's teammate is Anthony Davidson.
Alexander Wurz's teammate is Nico Rosberg.
If you look at Shanba's and Scope's claims, we can see the issue there. Shanba's teammate is Heiki Kovalainen and Scope's teammate is Ralf Schumacher.
Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld are teammates, yes, but here's one that's even more interesting: Lewis Hamilton is Fernando Alonso's teammate.
I think this is pretty interesting. Wario could be lying about being Fernando Alonso in the first place, which would mean that he doesn't know that IH was his teammate. But pulse could also be lying about being Nick Heidfeld. Since Paradox died before anyone even m entioned the word teammate, we have no way of knowing if he had one in his PM. If pulse figured that all pure townies had teammates, then this could be an indicator of pulsescum. I'm also not sure I think pulse's behaviour regarding Dissy when she claimed to have a teammate is indicative of someone who has a teammate himself.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Goddammit, what kind of retard are you? Have you, perhaps, considered readinganythingabout the theme?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Actually, did you even read the post I made earlier about the dead people's teammates?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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