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I don't understand this response. What are you replying to?In post 136, Tea wrote:In post 75, Luca Blight wrote:So first you called the votes on Norwegian bad, and now you’re calling the ones on Layla bad because they should be on NorwegianboyEE instead?
Thought processes can change?
Explain, please.Does it need to be?
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Why did you first call the votes on Norwegian bad, and then the ones on Layla bad?In post 164, Dunnstral wrote:
I don't understand this response. What are you replying to?In post 136, Tea wrote:In post 75, Luca Blight wrote:So first you called the votes on Norwegian bad, and now you’re calling the ones on Layla bad because they should be on NorwegianboyEE instead?
Thought processes can change?
Explain, please.Does it need to be?
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You can read positioning as posturing, for the reason that I voted him
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That was at davesaz
I don't like this thoughIn post 379, PMysterious wrote: With that said, I see the Wake wagon as being justified, and as long as there's nothing to really suggest that he's Town, then he's also a safe lynch for this first day.-
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That looking at "wagon resistance" at a scale of 1-2 votes being moved when there are 18 players alive is very misguided, at worstIn post 578, Chemist1422 wrote:
Sorry but what the heck does this post even meanIn post 576, Dunnstral wrote:Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything
To be clearer, saying that Tea's wagon has been "deflating" isn't a reason to think that tea is scum-
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He's not defend-able. And, again, it's an 18 player setupIn post 679, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The thing about Wake is that everyone seems to have no qualms about him being voted today. Which suggests mafia is ok with his wagon. And there’s no real counterwagon other than Vorkuta right now. That’s why i’m a bit reserved about voting him.-
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More like, there aren't any grounds to defend wake on right now. It would be too obviousIn post 684, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So you think mafia gave up on him assuming he's one of their mafia buddies?-
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The way I think of it:In post 685, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
The general formula is where y is the number of players in the game and x is the number of mafia:In post 680, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If there are about 4-5 mafia (which i’m asduming is the case since this is a bigger game) i think they would be quite vocally opposed if anyone actually got a wagon started on scum today.
y=x+3(x)
3(x) is the way to calculate the number of town. So in an 18 player game, with a potential 3p, you're probably looking at 4 scum
4+3(4)=16 +1 for a 3p, then maybe 1 more town for good measure. But 5 scum would probably be too many.
9 players: 2 scum
13 players: 3 scum
17 players: 4 scum
21 players: 5 scum
I'm sure other people disagree, but they tend towards more players for 4/5 scum, not less, so with this being an 18 player game, it's pretty safe to assume 4 scum, or shenanigans-
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This vote is still on me
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What?In post 753, davesaz wrote:Deadline restarted at 3 days, and trying to run up PM doesn't seem promising at all. What are we going to learn from that?
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When did I ask for claims?In post 769, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Yeah, he hasn't posted in like 3 days.
What the hell was that fish monger post. Why are you asking for claims if hes not even L-1 anymore?-
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Luca blight seems really town to me, I'm not sure why people keep voting him
I don't ever remember davesaz being so hung up on "avoiding scumhunting" being a reason to scumread people like he is right now, or being concerned about a lack of info from a lynch (which is a honestly a pretty dumb reason to be against a wagon anyway)-
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A little bit of research on my part shows that him pushing the avoiding scumhunting/scumreading that is normal for him, just that I haven't seen it or don't remember it
I think 753 is a bad post, what you quoted in 806 is valid though
I don't really like 806 overall though
Historically, I tend to scumread davesaz
Basically, I don't know, but I'm not set on him being scum, and it's probably incorrect to say that he doesn't do this as town. I don't know if he'd push the lack of info thing as town or what, but if PM is scum that does put Dave in a bad light IMO, especially if Wake is also town.
I'm pretty content to vote PM today
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Yeah, that's why we let other people speak first.In post 947, Chemist1422 wrote:Yeah so I was never actually a cop
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You're wrong, you wouldn't be informed in a normal gameIn post 961, Chemist1422 wrote:I’m pretty sure I’d be informed if I was blocked given that this is a normal
This post looks like distancingIn post 963, Almost50 wrote:@FL: Tell me something.. how many scum victories did register in 2019? :twisted:
VOTE: FL
I'm tired of seeing you escape the noose with those over the top fake claims. You know as well as I that a Miller has to claim on D1 .. ALWAYS
P-edit: You do NOT get informed of a Roleblock in a Normal-
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Day 1:
In post 433, Wake1 wrote:As said before I hate Day 1, and can't deal with all the speculation.
Once Day 2 begins I can actually play the game. Day 1 is just crazed paranoia and I can't deal with it, and if you want to lynch me for that and take a gamble go ahead.
Day 1 there's no weight to any wagon, and only rarely do you actually catch someone in a lie that early. So, yeah, I do lurk and stay in the background Day 1 in general, because that's my playstyle.
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In post 1138, Wake1 wrote:In post 1145, Wake1 wrote:
That's not suspicious at all.In post 1144, Luca Blight wrote:I’m not claiming.-
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To be fair, he never said "suicidal townie"In post 1155, Hectic wrote:Wake's scummier here.
Also this feels more like scum overreacting and trying to look like an enraged townie.In post 1131, Tea wrote:I dunno this feels overreacty
As town id be like "ok wtf" and let it sit for a while and hope they go "sike"
His first though is Dolly is a suicidal townie rather than the fact she could be scum?-
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This is loaded but yes, I think he's been pretty town, and a lot of the people on wagon are worth more scrutiny than Luca himself, pretty much everyone on it except NorwegianboyEE by my reckoningIn post 1175, Dolly Parton wrote:Are you trying to stop the luca wagon for some weird reason?-
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Let's go back to my original point.
I'm saying you are scummy because you're basically coasting with a vote on Luca, and that you seem to be posting for the sake of posting rather than pushing the wagon because you're comfy with what's going on right nowIn post 1167, Dunnstral wrote:Dolly and Wake are both doing the scum thing where they care much less about what's going on when someone else is being wagoned, and start making filler/troll posts instead of pushing the wagon they apparently believe in
That's why I'm asking you to point out posts that are, in your opinion, you pushing this wagon
I'm not sure what the purpose of the questions you keep coming up with are, then. What information were you trying to get out of 1181?Dolly Parton wrote:
I'm not threatening you. I'm not delusional, I know for sure that I don't have the pull in town that you seem to think I think I do.In post 1185, Dunnstral wrote:If you want that to be a credible threat, you should show evidence of yourself pushing the current wagon you are voting, like I've asked you to do twice now
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He targeted scumIn post 1097, Dunnstral wrote:If you were neighborized by chemist last night, claim it-
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In post 1254, Dolly Parton wrote:Why can't Luca be scum here???In post 1254, Dolly Parton wrote: you would have realized that I have already town cleared 2 people today.
Wake & Luca ( Both the reaction to fake guilty and the Luca wagon dissolving).-
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I don't think lurking was a valid response at the time the question was asked/you voted meIn post 1268, Dolly Parton wrote:
Well, I think his response is indicative of lurking. He just pops in quotes my posts with no comment of his own and poof is back in the shadows. ISO Dunn and let me know any obvtown posts he has made.In post 1267, NorwegianboyEE wrote:In post 1257, Dolly Parton wrote:We make a dunnstral wagon (leaving mine alone because it's ain't good for us because we already have established I'm town) so we can sort that slot.
Ok.
We should work together and not against me.
Why is Dunnstral scum fypov?In post 1259, Dolly Parton wrote:Wow. I didn't think that scum trap would work that quick.
Scum!Dunn couldn't resist pointing that out.
I love this game.
And why is his reply to your post scummy? Isn’t it something anyone could have pointed out?-
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This kind of felt like distancing too, and a50 was distancing, and I'm looking at wake too, add him 3rd on the listIn post 1020, Wake1 wrote:The longer he's left alive the more lies he will post.-
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@Dave, Menalque
Norwegian claimed a roleblocking role - there was an additional kill at the end of night 1, but not at the end of night 2. Did you not think to wait for a vigilante claim on day 2, either targeting the JK target or being roleblocked by the JK?
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This post seems to assume that Luca is town, or am I wrong?In post 1722, Wake1 wrote:Well, this sucks.
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First of all, don't claim anything Tea, this isn't directed at you
At the end of yesterday, nobody thought to wait for Tea to come in and claim "actually, my kill was blocked" or for someone to say "I targeted Tea with the kill"
Reminder that the night 2 kill was the claimed town power role, and it's pretty safe to assume the vigilante didn't shoot there. Of course, you can assume that the vig is odd night/joat or something, but why rush the lynch to prevent that?-
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You didn't give it time to see if it to made sense mechanically, so you couldn't have known.In post 1784, Menalque wrote:if your play is to the point where you're top wagon then claiming PR shouldn't save you unless it makes A LOT of sense mechanically-
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