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[manho]

just posting to tell you i'm here. haven't read anything yet. will read after lunch.

[manho]

Isa is scum. Vifam is VI. will post more when i have time.

vote: Isa

[manho]

I don't think it's that anymore.. to me it's more the deflection and the fact she's apparently loathe to give any detail.. :/

I'll gladly give you details whenever you need them.

Nah, I'm not. I don't see the scumminess in my actions just because you've done so as scum.

This is such a Scum response.

Vote: Isa

You guys are lame.
VOTE: Sunset

This was a stupid random vote.

hnng
UNVOTE:
VOTE: VanillaCupcake
Ignoring a thread four pages into the day? Not cool, man.

This is an even more terrible reason to vote someone.

Isa's scum. Don't see DemonHybrid scum at all. Also don't get why Hoppster is the god of towniness for everyone. Vifam from past experiences is a massive VI but he's been pretty scummy so far.

That's your case on me? I am not impressed.
Very little has been said about Hoppster and what everyone has for a read on him. What makes you say that everyone believes he's that? Him also believing I am scum?
You giving Vifam flak for those RVS votes also sits odd with me, again, your case is weak.

I don't understand how the guy who started a wagon on your biggest scumread 5 pages in would become a null-read.

Seeing how most of his posting has been reasoning on Isascum, I can't see anyway you would have a null-read on him. If it were me I couldn't have helped but put Hoppster down on the town list.

What are your other reads, Diddin?

I said null-leaning town, nice misrep bro. The game's only been going for a few pages, it takes me longer than that to develop solid townreads.

DemonHybrid is leaning town, Isa is scum, you're leaning scum.

If you develop a solid scum read on the reasoning you gave earlier, then I can't believe developing town reads is that much harder...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: diddin

this one is bad. really bad.

this post came after vifam calling diddin scum for not thinking hoppster town. isa came in, repeating what vifam had said, and put a vote on diddin. it is scum trying to move his attention to someone else. he didn't defend himself at all. so isa is scum.

also, to the newbies, there is a tactic call bussing. wiki it if you want to know more.

[manho]

talk in your QT, don't spam the thread.

and it's right, the David-is-scum vote is prob joke.

[manho]

i can't find another scum other than isa. they are probably lurking.

[manho]

Woah, missed the thread opening and most of the RVS. I'll be reading up.

same

this reminds me of a good point however, that I find it a weak scumtell though that vifam posted only 4 minutes after the mod declared the game open. Scum would surely know in their QT that the game had begun

this is something to consider

that's not always the case. and it depends on the game setup. so it's weak, really weak.

[manho]

project is town. kcd is nulltown. so stop the town v town.

i will let rbt explain before deciding his alignment.

[manho]

unvote, vote: RBT

[manho]

RBT is confirmed scum now.

[manho]

I wanna join the RBT wagon. I'm a bit reluctant to putting my vote on her now though because she's at L-2, and should I put her at L-1, I'm afraid someone will quicklynch by accident (or willingly). It has happened way too many times for me recently.

So with that said,

HoS: RBT

that's too paranoid, too many (unnecessary) explain, for not voting. Isa is still scum.

[manho]

I wanna join the RBT wagon. I'm a bit reluctant to putting my vote on her now though because she's at L-2, and should I put her at L-1, I'm afraid someone will quicklynch by accident (or willingly). It has happened way too many times for me recently.

So with that said,

HoS: RBT

that's too paranoid, too many (unnecessary) explain, for not voting. Isa is still scum.

See, manho, that's why I didn't want to vote. Putting her at L-1 would result in either a hammer (do you think stormer checked the votes before he put his vote down? I doubt it) or as in this case, an immediate unvote, resulting in nothing.

I support the claim request.

i'm not saying you are scum for not voting, but you are too defensive explaining your not-voting, which is obviously the correct action. you can simply say "RBT is scum. Claim now or I will hammer."

[manho]

RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

[manho]

@Lord Bowser, can we have vote count?

[manho]

can i have a link to that game where RBT is the day 1 mislynch???

[manho]

OK then, RBT is acting similarly in those games. but i still suspect that he intentionally do that.

but whatever, i'll let him alive for now. he can be vigged tonight.

if he flips scum, then scumbuddy is in the playlist of those 2 games.

back to the Isa lynch now.

unvote, vote Isa

[manho]

RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

Show me where she is playing the VI card, please.

you don't play the VI card by a post, RBT is acting like a VI for the whole game. i doubt he didn't learn anything by those 2 games. he can't be VI for 3 straight games.

unvote, vote:RBT

. that's L-1.

[manho]

RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

Show me where she is playing the VI card, please.

you don't play the VI card by a post, RBT is acting like a VI for the whole game. i doubt he didn't learn anything by those 2 games. he can't be VI for 3 straight games.

unvote, vote:RBT

. that's L-1.

There are way too many people attempting to lynch RBT for not being scummy, but being a VI instead. See the above post? It says "I know he's town but let's lynch him anyway."

RBT is scum trying to act like a VI.

[manho]

thejakalope is not scum.

[manho]

I don't think it's an "act".

but i think it is.

[manho]

Prod Response.

I haven't posted because this day should be OVER.

RBT is today's lynch.

this is a good post.

[manho]

SOMEONE HAMMER THAT SCUM NOW.

[manho]

vote: Isa

[manho]

bunnylover feels like knowing RBT will flip town. good chance he's scum.

will read the thread again when i'm back home to decide where my vote is going, or staying.

[manho]

ok, bunnylover is scum. he knows RBT will flip town, which is something only scum knows. and that hammer is just bad. you shouldn't hammer someone you think is town. maybe he will eventually be lynched, but you shouldn't be the one to hammer.

vote: bunnylover

[manho]

i don't think the Jakalope is scum.

@hoppster, bunnylover is not that scummy until his hammer and the RBT flip. that's why no one cared about your case.

[manho]

diddin is still not scum.

[manho]

diddin is still not scum.

Reason being?

his actions are not that scummy. at least i've done that before as town. BL is much more scummy than diddin.

[manho]

diddin is still not scum.

Reason being?

his actions are not that scummy. at least i've done that before as town. BL is much more scummy than diddin.

Hey, this seems familiar...remember when Hoppster and Ranmaru said the same thing about my actions? "I've done that as scum so it's a scumtell." "I've done it as town so it's a null tell!" It's still a worthless argument.

But then tell me, what's not scummy about first dismissing the Bunny wagon and then jumping on it without acknowledging your previous read? Or sheeping ALL the cases you believe have merit without any fresh input? And what about his misreps? Are they pro-town behavior?

k, i saw what you mean. missed that vote by diddin on BL. diddin is scum.

i'll consider changing my vote to diddin.

[manho]

V/LA until Tuesday

Were in a state of emergency and have no water, electricity or any food but salad until Tuesday. Sorry.

take care...

[manho]

I hope you solve everything, DH. Best of luck.

manho, that's one major turnaround. What did you base your townread on?

i wasn't saying diddin is town. he was a null tell by that time. then i realized why you all think he is scum, agree with that, and thinking about the vote now.

[manho]

diddin is still not scum.

Sounds like you were defending me pretty hard.

no, you are scum now. read my last 2 posts.

i've a gut feeling that jakalope will flip town. there are better lynch today, for example BL and diddin. i'll read WLC later.

[manho]

I support the wagon on Jakalope (though I'm doubtful if it'll result in something) but come on folks, DIDDIN NEEDS VOTES.

manho, show me your support for lynching this scum. The rest of you as well.

i wasn't voting diddin? [checking my ISO...] thought that i've done it.

unvote, vote diddin

this is better than the jakalope-lynch.

[manho]

so, why is diddin not getting more vote?

[manho]

i'll read chk and wlc later. still think diddin and BL are scum.

[manho]

chk and wlc is null tell. diddin needs to die.

more votes on diddin please.

[manho]

Orange Yoshi.

No night ability that I can see.

Come at me, bro.

any day ability? passive ability? hidden ability?

just want to make sure of that.

[manho]

chk is town.

[manho]

maybe i'm yoshi, maybe i'm not. don't talk about it if you already know what i mean.

[manho]

^ is scum for fishing.

[manho]

no, chk may not be town.

i'm happy with both wlc or diddin lynch. will move my vote if it causes no-lynch.

[manho]

6 votes to lynch at deadline...

[manho]

why are brown and purple unusual yoshi?

[manho]

I'm a dayvig you stupid cunts. Specifically, Light Blue Yoshi.

[manho]

I'm a dayvig you stupid cunts. Specifically, Light Blue Yoshi.

Diddini is scum. We yoshi don't have power from the start. Die scum die.

[manho]

Eagerly awaiting stormer flip.

[manho]

vote: deadline extension, vote: xeras

[manho]

whoops, sorry I hadnt read up when I posted that :$

[manho]

whoops, sorry I hadnt read up when I posted that :$

annoy this post. i was in my phone and i probably miss clicked some buttons.

XERAS IS TOWN.

STOP.

xeras is town iff diddin is scum. so we are lynching one of them today. i'm inclined on lynching xeras. scum with day-vig is possible, but i would say the chance is not high.

[manho]

Got a few pages to read, had to fill in for work the past 3 days ":(

I know exactly what you mean. I had to work 6 days, then got one day off.... then work 9 days... with one day off... all while being shorthanded.

Manho, what exactly makes you think that chk is town? Is it his claim?
Also, did you just softclaim? Can it be that you wanted us to think you did?

this is scum fishing for information.

Unvote, Vote WLC

To be honest, I would rather lynch someone trying to claim to be a Yoshi right now... But it doesn't look like that is going to happen, so I am going to hop on the WLC wagon...

bad vote. and WLC has claimed yoshi. you are contradicting yourself.

Unvote,
Vote Diddin.

I prefer someone get lynched, other than no one. When no one gets lynched, it just helps the mafia.

this is scum wanting to ensure he won't be a lynch target.

Tch.

I am starting to think that manho is scummier more and more.

Manho

- Please state a reason for voting for me other than being 'wishy washy'. Going over your iso, you seem quite 'wishy washy' yourself... well when you wasn't pushing the RBT so hard.

And with that,

Vote: Deadline Extension
Vote: Manho

and where is me 'wishy washy'? and btw, what is 'wishy washy'?

[manho]

Oh my god.

You're in a bastard game, and you're saying the "chance is not high for a scum dayvig".

Well, I've seen a scum dayvig in the VERY FIRST GAME OF MAFIA I'VE EVER OBSERVED.

Have you even tried reading diddin's ISO?

when is this game bastard? are you in the wrong game?

[manho]

Oh my god.

You're in a bastard game, and you're saying the "chance is not high for a scum dayvig".

Well, I've seen a scum dayvig in the VERY FIRST GAME OF MAFIA I'VE EVER OBSERVED.

Have you even tried reading diddin's ISO?

when is this game bastard? are you in the wrong game?

DO YOU SEE THIS

YES, THAT'S ME FACEPALMING AT YOU, MANHO.

no, i can't see it, literally. i can't see all the images from imageshack...

[manho]

Oh my god.

You're in a bastard game, and you're saying the "chance is not high for a scum dayvig".

Well, I've seen a scum dayvig in the VERY FIRST GAME OF MAFIA I'VE EVER OBSERVED.

Have you even tried reading diddin's ISO?

chance of scum dayvig may be higher in a bastard game, but the chance is not as high as xeras being scum.

i had been hard pushing the diddin lynch, so i know the reason why diddin is scum.

[manho]

@diddin, why did you day-vig stormer instead of xeras?

[manho]

And WLC: It doesn't matter what alignment Xeras is. diddin's play has been terrible independent of that but a strive for a Xeras mislynch makes sense in the diddin is scum context.

You can't have the conclusion "xeras is town" when Diddin has not flipped scum. I think that DH may be scum with xeras. But we need to lynch xeras or Diddin first.

[manho]

@diddin, why did you day-vig stormer instead of xeras?

i still need diddin to answer this...

[manho]

@Lord Bowser, we need a votecount

[manho]

unvote, vote: diddin

[manho]

@mod, we need a votecount.

[manho]

@mod, we need a votecount.

[manho]

@DH, i'm not scum.

my gut say isa is scum.

will read sunset later.

[manho]

no, my gut is wrong. isa is town.

sunset was voting people not being wagoned. and they are not pushing them either. don't know what they are doing, but they are null-scum.

will vote after a vote-count.

[manho]

Vote: Manho

My gut says that you are scum. ^^

Ah, and why do you think Isa is town?

the push by isa on the diddin wagon, especially when the wagon was not even a wagon, was phenomenal. no chance they are scum together.

[manho]

I think projectmatt is town. His defence is not good, but think it does not come from scum.

I think I have just committed a scumtell in kcd's point of view.

[manho]

Pretty sure warrior is scum by those three posts.

Will decide my vote after warrior claim.

[manho]

Manho are you kidding me?

Why have you never looked at PM uptil now?

i called it town v town earlier in D1, and i still see a town v town now after re-reading you and projectmatt together.

[manho]

oh, i've forgotten that warrior will dead tonight.

@warrior, claim and tell us whatever you know/think if you are town, or wait for your death quietly if you are scum.

[manho]

So I am Paratroops, Island CounterAttacker.


Anyone who visits me with a passive ability dies the next night.

I'm informed who visits me, and it was Ranmaru.

Which is why he needs to claim right now.

How can you be visited by a passive ability?

[manho]

^WTF. I was making a post but something remove it and replace it by a quote that I'm not quoting. Just ignore the above post.

I see town everywhere, or scum that will die tonight. Maybe we can lynch WLC instead.

[manho]

Nope, we are not lynching warrior or vifam today. We will know whether vifam is lying or not tonight. And we can lynch vifam tomorrow if warrior doesn't die tonight.

[manho]

Nope, we are not lynching warrior or vifam today. We will know whether vifam is lying or not tonight. And we can lynch vifam tomorrow if warrior doesn't die tonight.

And when warrior is the mafia's NK... then what?

we lynch vifam if warrior flips town. we confirm vifam as town if warrior flips scum. that's easy.

inb4 "what if warrior got janitored?"

[manho]

Nope, we are not lynching warrior or vifam today. We will know whether vifam is lying or not tonight. And we can lynch vifam tomorrow if warrior doesn't die tonight.

And when warrior is the mafia's NK... then what?

we lynch vifam if warrior flips town. we confirm vifam as town if warrior flips scum. that's easy.

inb4 "what if warrior got janitored?"

If I get Janitored, then that should be from the mafia NK i believe.
Vifam didn't say he had the ability to Janitor someone.
Therefore, Vifam should be scum if I'm Janitored

no, in the case where you are scum, your scum team will janitor you to frame vifam.

so, let's solve this conflict tomorrow after warrior die or not die.

will probably iso WLC tomorrow when i have time.

[manho]

^read this...

Nope, we are not lynching warrior or vifam today. We will know whether vifam is lying or not tonight. And we can lynch vifam tomorrow if warrior doesn't die tonight.

And when warrior is the mafia's NK... then what?

we lynch vifam if warrior flips town. we confirm vifam as town if warrior flips scum. that's easy.

[manho]

no, that was to jakalope.

[manho]

We risk mislynching vifam if warrior flips town, though.

You have heard of a town poisoner, right? Because I have. And that's what Vifam's role sounds like, a modified poisoner.

that's why we need warrior to claim. i think warrior has claimed not targeting vifam at all, so it's a 1v1 for sure.

[manho]

I think vifam is just a standard PGO. That's not OP.

[manho]

^edit: not standard, but a delayed one. The not OP part is still correct though.

[manho]

scum:

warriormode/Vifam

prob-scum:

none

null-scum:

Kcdapot
David Xanatos
Parabollocks/implosion
Celebloki

null:

Sunset
Bunnylover

null-town:

hiplop
TheJakalope

prob town:

chkflip
projectmatt
WeyounsLastClone
Xeras
Isa
DemonHybrid

town:

warriormode/Vifam
manho

[manho]

kcdaspot is scum for his tunneling projectmatt hard. though i know town will tunnel, i see scum doing it more. but kcdaspot is mostly null, and a little bit scum. i won't vote him among those 4 null-scum.

and forget why i think WLC is town... will read him again to figure it out.

@warrior, that's all i need to know, thanks.

[manho]

there are moments where i think sunset and BL is town, and moments where i think they are scum, so that makes a null tell.

[manho]

yes, let's lynch Celebloki. we aren't getting replacement for him.

vote: Celebloki

[manho]

Does everyone agree that either Vifam or warriormode is scum? If so, why are not more people voting for them?

Also, manho is climbing up the radar as scum for me. To me he seems to be all over the place with different opinions.

clearly not reading...

but i see you as town, for whatever reason i've forgotten, i'll explain it again.

vifam claimed to be a delayed PGO, and warrior has targeted him last night, so warrior will die tonight. however, warrior claimed not targeting vifam, so that makes a 1v1.

Case 1, Vifam is town. then warrior is scum and will die tonight. so we can save the lynch.

Case 2, Vifam is scum. then warrior is town.
Case 2.1, scum kills warrior. warrior flips town. thus vifam is scum and lynched tomorrow.
Case 2.2, scum doesn't kill warrior. warrior survives. vifam is lying and lynched tomorrow.

Therefore, if warrior survives, we lynch vifam tomorrow. if warrior dies and flips town, we lynch vifam tomorrow. if warrior dies and flips scum, we confirm vifam as town.

that's a good plan for me.

[manho]

Hmm, that Vifam/wm scenario kinda makes sense to wait, but I'd still feel comfortable enough lynching Vifam today. But okay.

My other main suspects are manho, and either one of projectmatt/kcdaspot (of these two I think if one is scum, other is town, vice versa). At this point I feel manho's play is sometimes opportunistic.

Unvote. Vote: manho.

@manho, are you voting Celeb just because of lurking, or for another reason as well?

i'm happy to lynch one of the four below.

Kcdapot
David Xanatos
Parabollocks/implosion
Celebloki

and i don't have much preference. but celebloki has disappeared for a half month already, so it will be a better lynch than someone actively posting. i will change my vote if it can save projectmatt.

[manho]

maybe we can get a counter-wagon on David Xanatos.

unvote, vote: David Xanatos

[manho]

I love that 3/4 on manho's list are lurkers. Nice job blending in, scum.

Not.

because scums always lurk.

[manho]

@WARRIOR, STFU OR DIE. WE ARE NOT LYNCHING VIFAM TODAY.

[manho]

i still think projectmatt is town.

[manho]

I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum

because of previous games in the past

... oh hello.

i still think projectmatt is town.

see the scumclaim?

no i don't think so. but i actually think projectmatt is acting a bit strange lately. so i'll change him to null-town, and i'll probably iso him again soon.

[manho]

vote: vifam

[manho]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

scum fishing?

[manho]

^that was directed to the first question.

[manho]

no, vifam is scum for lying, not any case around sunset.

[manho]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

scum fishing?

How is it fishing to ask every person in the game for whatever background info is publicly available on a 60-page game?

i don't think it is public information. haven't read the thread?

[manho]

Since our Lord Bowser is too busy to make the votecount when pm was lynched, i'll do it myself.

Spoiler: All vote/unvote since the last votecount from Bowser

3.1 (About a week left)

Sunset [L-8] Isa
Vifam [L-7] WLC, warriormode
>projectmatt [L-4] Kcdaspot, chkflip, TheJakalope, hiplop, DemonHybrid
WLC [L-8] projectmatt
Celebloki [L-8] manho
manho [L-8] Xeras

With 17 stirring about, it's 9 to lynch, and 5 to lynch at deadline. The ">" next to a person's name signifies the lynch if the counter below expires.

(expired on 2011-10-09 14:09:00)

Hmm, that Vifam/wm scenario kinda makes sense to wait, but I'd still feel comfortable enough lynching Vifam today. But okay.

My other main suspects are manho, and either one of projectmatt/kcdaspot (of these two I think if one is scum, other is town, vice versa). At this point I feel manho's play is sometimes opportunistic.

Unvote. Vote: manho.

@manho, are you voting Celeb just because of lurking, or for another reason as well?

Sigh...

Unvote

maybe we can get a counter-wagon on David Xanatos.

unvote, vote: David Xanatos

No WTF

Vote: Vifam

Vifam still hasn't answered all my questions.

Not switching til he's dead.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: David Xanatos

VOTE: ProjectMatt


I just want to get to D4 so I can see delicious scum death.

His voting history, his potential distancing in said history, the flip-floppy reads. There are plenty of reasons to lynch Matt.

ISO him.

Nah, right now I think you're bullshitting scum unless you can give me ONE bit of information it would give you for me to flip town, and how the hell you think flip-flopping is a scum tell. And "voting history" is just bad.

hiplop
ive got nothing

Yeah, I know. It's just pissing me off that I'm getting lynched for no reason at all.

eh this post reads as townie to me... i actually can see CHK scum here.

UNVOTE: VOTE: CHK

we really don't learn ANYTHING from pm death, and CHK is trying to push his lynch or an "information" reason.
CHK, or sunset will be the only people I vote today

Oh and xanatos too

VOTE: ProjectMatt


I just want to get to D4 so I can see delicious scum death.

Unvote. Vote: Vifam

Screw the scenario's, I think Vifam is scum.

hiplop and Matt is good lynches. David/Celebloki/whoever not posting is also OK, but I would prefer hiplop or Matt.

~J

im confirmed town though


VOTE: SUNSET

Can we please end this guy?

gr.

fine

VOTE: PM

sorryy man

VOTE: projectmatt

I wanna be cool too.

~J

VOTE: Projectmatt

Can't get a better prod-dodge than one that sends us into night really. Giggles.

Really though. He's right. There were a lot of people defending him for almost no reason.. and no matter the flip, those people should be looked at closely. If he flips Scum, they should be looked at through a scope though..

Black Yoshi? Really? And you had that much information from the mod without knowing your ability?

No way he's town. And if he is it's just sad.

~J

Yeah. I don't believe he is the black yoshi.

Ah. And if I counted right he is still at L-1.

Vote: ProjectMatt

But... not anymore. ;D

Black Yoshi? Really? And you had that much information from the mod without knowing your ability?

No way he's town. And if he is it's just sad.

~J

Yeah. I don't believe he is the black yoshi.

Ah. And if I counted right he is still at L-1.

Vote: ProjectMatt

But... not anymore. ;D

Hammer.

Votecount when projectmatt was lynch:

Vifam [L-7] warrior, WLC
projectmatt [L-0] Kcdaspot, chkflip, TheJakalope, DemonHybrid, vifam, hiplop, sunset, DX, xeras
WLC [L-8] projectmatt
DX[L-7] manho, isa

we can investigate the wagon now.

[manho]

@Lord Bowser, can we have the replacement indicated in the opening post?

[manho]

^waiting for implosion to explain it himself.

and there is scum in {hiplop, sunset, DX}.

[manho]

^waiting for implosion to explain it himself.

and there is scum in {hiplop, sunset, DX}.

I was asking if there's any info that's public about the mechanic. Not rolefishing. Infofishing, in a way, because i'm asking people to summarize any public info. I don't see how that's scummy or notable; i'm just trying to get up-to-date with whatever has been figured out by everyone about what appears to be an important mechanic.

Someone care to sum up the case on Sunset?

Sorry for the misunderstanding then. But the way you ask for information will likely get informed people disclose the info.

I think one of my post contain a case regarding vifam and warrior. ISO me to find it yourself.

[manho]

@Lord Bowser, can we have the replacement indicated in the opening post?

What do you mean?

You should tell us who replaced who in the opening post. For example we cannot tell whom implosion replaced.

[manho]

i don't see any wrong in quick-lynching scum.

[manho]

vote: sunset

that's hammer.

[manho]

waiting for the flip.

and

V/LA until weekend

lots of work at school. and i'll probably be playing LOL in my limited free time.

[manho]

1. warriormode
2. hiplop
4. Kcdapot
6. David Xanatos
8. manho
9. implosion
12. WeyounsLastClone
15. Xeras
16. Bunnylover
18. Isa
21. Celebloki

Me, Xeras, hiplop, warriormode, manho are all town. I am inclined to believe WLC is town. BunnyLover needs to full claim sooner or later, I think.

Regardless, that only leaves a lynch pool of Celebloki, and the four I mentioned in my previous post.

I agree with every bit of this post.

Will post later when i have my computer.

[manho]

@mod, we need prod/replace for xanatos and celebloki

[manho]

vote: kcdaspot

[manho]

Do I need to claim yoshi again? I may or may not have an ability to use tonight.

[manho]

@implosion, what did your pm say about you absorb the red button thing? try rephrase the pm as clear as possible.

[manho]

Regarding claims, a Shy Guy being aligned with the Islanders doesn't sit well with me so I kinda suspect Xeras still as well

I'm a shy guy,

Yeah, great job covering for your scumbuddy.

Seriously?

Unvote,
Vote WLC

i think he's just stupid, not scum.

[manho]

is this a massclaim?

you can claim if you want, and we are lynching you today.

[manho]

btw, we're now sheeping every word I say as a town, and today we're killing WLC <- fact

Guys...

another guilty report?

[manho]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3433932 This is the first mentioning of a claimed Yoshi. WLC makes his post twelve posts later. There has been mumbling about potential abilities, but no details were given - WLC MUST be town.

Everyone get off the WLC wagon and get back to voting David Xanatos or Kcdaspot.

i agree. i see no way WLC can deduce that potential abilities thing by those posts. i don't think i've slipped so many information then.

[manho]

^i think one of implosion and xeras may be scum, but the above plan is fine with me.

[manho]

vote: bunny

, he's scum with david xanatos. just iso david alongside with bunny, and you will see this.


[spoiler="vote town, fos scumbuddy" #1]

Jesus christ.. I think RBT may be the most grievous case of OMGUS I've ever seen..

Not even at attempt at defense, simply a quote of Bunny calling people stupid..

IGMEOY: Matt, Bunny

Matt for reasonably obvious reasons, Bunny for possibly buddying.
UNVOTE: projectmatt
VOTE: RBT

[/spoiler]
[spoiler="vote town, fos scumbuddy" #2]

Don't like Bunnylover, probScum, but Jakalope seems worse to me.

VOTE: Jaka

Analysis when my stomach stops churning.

[/spoiler]

Spoiler: finally a vote on scumbuddy with the weakest reason.

I'm still re-reading and considering a few things, but Jaka's claim looks legit to me, so..

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bunnylover

Active lurking without any reasoning given, and majority of what is posted is fluff.

Spoiler: but in his next post, we have "vote town, fos scumbuddy" #3

VOTE: WLC

DH's points strike a chord with me.. still don't like Bunny, but this makes me want to see WLC sweat.

Spoiler: david xanators never has a case on bunny, but he's still re-reading him.

Don't like the fact Isa is trying to out information about roles.. seems far too dodgy. Re-reading Bunny atm.

Spoiler: the only post by bunny that involve david.

Chain Chomp is a scum claim lol.
But I really don't like Kcda above post.