Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[Rosso Carne]

ok guys.

i definitely claimed cultie cop day 1.

but for all of you who missed it, im cultie cop.

[dahill1]

ok guys.

i definitely claimed cultie cop day 1.

but for all of you who missed it, im cultie cop.

i can't seem to find it..
but why did you investigate BM? wasn't it obvious you'd get a guilty on him?

[Peers]

So, wait, I'm confused. Is 'cultie cop' a cop who's a member of a cult, or a cop who determines if someone is in a cult? If the former, we need to lynch Rosso eventually, but after he helps us find the scum, right? If the latter... we need to lynch BM because there's a good chance he's the cult recruiter, not a mason, right?

It seems too simple, there must be something I'm missing.

[WhoMe?]

ok guys.

i definitely claimed cultie cop day 1.

but for all of you who missed it, im cultie cop.

Not plain out in the open you didn't. If it was some kind of breadcrumb, point it out now. Even if you're telling the truth, does your guilty on him even mean anything? If he's telling the truth he's a miller, so of course you got a guilty.

[jackalbane]

So, wait, I'm confused. Is 'cultie cop' a cop who's a member of a cult, or a cop who determines if someone is in a cult? If the former, we need to lynch Rosso eventually, but after he helps us find the scum, right? If the latter... we need to lynch BM because there's a good chance he's the cult recruiter, not a mason, right?

It seems too simple, there must be something I'm missing.

BM claimed miller. Period. Now, whether or not everyone believes him is another story. Personally, I'm not too fond of having a "miller" just slide through.

Then again, he's doing some good so maybe he is. I don't know, but until there's evidence either way, there's no good reason to persue it. Unless Rosso really is the cult cop and investigated BM last night.

Oh, boy with all the half-and-halves.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

If BM is a miller, then RC's claim corroborates his story.

If BM is a cultie, then RC's claim proves this.

This is the problem with miller claims. But the fact that a claimed miller was found guilty by investigation should make him no more or less liable to be lynched. And the fact that he was found guilty as a member of a scum faction whose

delayed

recruiter was killed yesterday speaks toward his townness.

[Battle Mage]

Vote: Rosso Carne

I'm about 99% sure of his guilt. I'll explain why later on tonight. The evidence is pretty near irrefutable.

[Battle Mage]

If BM is a miller, then RC's claim corroborates his story.

If BM is a cultie, then RC's claim proves this.

This is the problem with miller claims. But the fact that a claimed miller was found guilty by investigation should make him no more or less liable to be lynched. And the fact that he was found guilty as a member of a scum faction whose

delayed

recruiter was killed yesterday speaks toward his townness.

FoS: TSPN

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

What, you disagree?

[armlx]

I concur with BM. Probably different reason though.

Vote Rosso

[Battle Mage]

well, I think when BM claimed Miller he didnt think he would live to see end game or rather he should have known that he shouldnt see end game, but there are still 25 people around and not lynching him today is hardly letting him ride to end game.

that being said, I am interested in what Rosso has to say about the question posed to him.

QFT. If i'd been dead today, its highly unlikely you'd have been able to spot Rosso-scum based on the meta.

Armlx, your logic is poor. As far as i can tell, your claim hasnt been confirmed yet, and neither have the roles of the majority of the players. Seeing as we've lost our cop, and maybe have 1 more investigative role out there, the odds of even 1/4 of the players being confirmed are slim.

TS, is just being TS. Not alot else i can say there. Although, overnight i have spoke to Mith about installing a filter whereby you can totally remove all comments made by a particular player. He's looking into it.

I still want to hear from Nemesis. I'll explain my Rosso vote tonight.

BM

[Battle Mage]

What, you disagree?

No, i find your defense of him scummy. Not to mention your attempt to get me lynched on the basis of his claim.

I'd also like to hear Armlx's reason for voting Rosso. Just so i know you arent just tagging along, ya know? :p

BM

[Battle Mage]

actually, scratch that. Armlx probably IS seeing the same thing i am. (i had to check back to see who was in the game). lol

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Er, what? I'm arguing to not lynch you.

[WhoMe?]

Vote: Rosso Carne

I'm about 99% sure of his guilt. I'll explain why later on tonight. The evidence is pretty near irrefutable.

I had thoughts in that direction myself. I think this is an attempt to get on the confirmed townie list.

step 1 claim an investigative role of a scum faction that was wiped out night 0.

step 2 find yourself a guilty by investigating a miller (oh wait you totally missed his miller claim and all the discussion around it in day 1 - hard to believe)

step 3 profit!

vote Rosso

[armlx]

actually, scratch that. Armlx probably IS seeing the same thing i am. (i had to check back to see who was in the game). lol

I forgot you were in the game as well. Hence the reason I thought it was a different reason.

[Toaster Strudel]

If BM is a miller, then RC's claim corroborates his story.

This is complete and utter insanity.

Why on Earth would a player investigate a claimed miller? In case he gets an innocent result?

There is zero game logic in investigating a Miller.

I buy neither the claim, nor the night choice.

Also, a cult cop would announce all his innocents, not just the latest one. Being cleared of being cult doesn't mean confirmed town. Clearing them from being cult doesn't make them a NK target in any way, shape or form.

vote: Rosso Carne

[JordanA24]

killa seven rejoins the game to replace Antithesis, thanks again for offering killa.

Happy Birthday dahill1!

[Andycyca]

So, wait, I'm confused. Is 'cultie cop' a cop who's a member of a cult, or a cop who determines if someone is in a cult? If the former, we need to lynch Rosso eventually, but after he helps us find the scum, right? If the latter... we need to lynch BM because there's a good chance he's the cult recruiter, not a mason, right?

It seems too simple, there must be something I'm missing.

2nd

[curiouskarmadog]

ok guys.

i definitely claimed cultie cop day 1.

but for all of you who missed it, im cultie cop.

OK, you didnt answer all my questions.

Rosso, what exactly have you claimed? if you are claiming cult cop on BM, you might want to figure out if a miller result is guilty for cult too (ask mod?).

Did you know that BM claimed Miller before you investigated him? Why did you target BM?

Also, did you ask the Mod if a Miller would affect the result as a cult cop?

[Battle Mage]

actually, scratch that. Armlx probably IS seeing the same thing i am. (i had to check back to see who was in the game). lol

I forgot you were in the game as well. Hence the reason I thought it was a different reason.

i forgot you were too. lol
For some reason, i had a feeling TSPN was, but upon examination, this is incorrect.

[Battle Mage]

If BM is a miller, then RC's claim corroborates his story.

This is complete and utter insanity.

Why on Earth would a player investigate a claimed miller? In case he gets an innocent result?

There is zero game logic in investigating a Miller.

I buy neither the claim, nor the night choice.

Also, a cult cop would announce all his innocents, not just the latest one. Being cleared of being cult doesn't mean confirmed town. Clearing them from being cult doesn't make them a NK target in any way, shape or form.

vote: Rosso Carne

Oh and this reminds me, Armlx, aside from our meta knowledge, DO WE REALLY WANT A CULT COP WITH SANITY ISSUES, AND WHO DOESNT EVEN READ THE GAME, WHEN THE RECRUITER DIED NIGHT 0?

My vote is confirmed, but Armlx, for the benefit of everyone here, do you reckon its acceptable for us to reveal our meta knowledge of Rosso, even considering the nature of the game?

Mod please

Prod: Nemesis, Farside

Done

BM

[killa seven]

yay im back ill look into the whole rosso vs bm thhing and add my imput.

[Nemesis]

Hasty BM. Jordan, I wish you'd looked at who was online. I was writing a post before you prodded me.

[Nemesis]

Happy Birthday Dahill1

i want to hear from Rosso and Nemesis.

BM

Well I don't have much to add about the night's events to be honest. It is entirely possible you give me too much credit... Or too little... I am not sure.

My vote is confirmed, but Armlx, for the benefit of everyone here, do you reckon its acceptable for us to reveal our meta knowledge of Rosso, even considering the nature of the game?

Well considering how the Lloyd thing went, another one of your "I know he's scum and I'll tell you all later" ideas should probably be explained...

In case you didnt realise, i'm a miller. I dont get to do much at night.

Then why did you ask not to be roleblocked?

Based on my play, how much do you trust me?

Ok, so you'd be among the top vig targets considering your claim... And you're now directing the vig. Well, good luck I guess.

Feel like directing the roleblocker too?

You fail at breadcrumbing...
And ftr, i hope protown power roles have more sense than to target me tonight. That includes BOTH the aforementioned. Ugetme?/quote]

However, in the same post you say:

If we are to make the unlikely assumption that we have a Doctor, it is probably wise that any prohibitive power roles i.e. Roleblocker, do not use an action tonight.

So the roleblocker should make no choice, but should definately not target you. Why?