Mafia 78: Meta Breaking Mafia 1 - Game over!
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CoolBot Mafia Scum
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Adel Crystalline Logick
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damn dude, you are like a bulldog on this. he is like -4321 to lynch and you are still demanding a claim.CoolBot wrote:I want you to claim. I haven't been unclear about this. You defending your early behavior as just generating discussion is what warranted the wagon, but now I want a claim.
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Surye Mafia Scum
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Elias_the_thief He/HimNot Statistically SignificantHe/Him
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camisade Goon
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CoolBot[7] (Surye, shaft.ed, Albert, Ectomancer, Adel, pickemgenius, Machiavellian-Mafia)
Surye[2] (CoolBot, Elias_the_thief)
Elias_the_thief[1] (the silent speaker)
Ectomancer[1] (Kison)
Rosso Carne[1] (Tarhalindur)
shaft.ed[1] (farside22)
Not Voting[2]: (Rosso Carne, camisade)Do not lynch me.
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Tarhalindur Mod Screw
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Back after a week of relative inactivity.
The big question of the last six pages: why the hell was Surye not forced to claim when he reached L-2?
Oh wait, that's an easy question: Surye didn't have to claim because Ecto (and to a lesser extent Adel) derailed the wagon just after it reached L-2 and before Surye was forced to claim.
I'm not going to fault CoolBot for wanting a claim out of someone who should have been forced to claim 3 pages ago. I do, however, think Ectomancer's derailing the Surye wagon and many, many questions asked while giving only a few of his own thoughts indicates that Ecto is fairly likely to be scum.
Unvote, Vote: EctomancerUser out of ambit.
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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pickemgenius Jack the Tripper
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*note to self: gathering information is bad play as town*Tarhalindur wrote: I do, however, think Ectomancer's derailing the Surye wagon and many, many questions asked while giving only a few of his own thoughts indicates that Ecto is fairly likely to be scum.ShowRumpelstiltskin Grinder
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Ectomancer Mafia Scum
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I gave a thought but the internet monster ate the reply.
What I asked was: Are the presence of vanilla roles in mafia considered a meta? Or would expecting a meta breaking mafia to include no vanilla'sitselfa meta? How about only 1 vanilla? Aren't there normally a few? Just how much breaking of the meta is going on here?
But how can you answer that question? How can I ask it without implying a power role myself? How can you dance when it is a crime to play the music? 7 hands yet rest on the bow. It needs but one more to draw it across the string.I have a degree in bullshit. I have patents on entire lines of bullshit. So don't sit here and feed me a line of bullshit and think that I'm not going to recognize it as one.
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Adel Crystalline Logick
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Happy scumday albert!
I suspect he knows that I would skin him alive just so I could watch the expression on his face when he see me wearing his face.Albert B. Rampage wrote:What about Adel ? What do you think about Adel ?-
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Surye Mafia Scum
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Interesting, while I am appreciative of ABR having my back, I find it interesting that you completely ignored him in your analysis, when he's the one that actively derailed the bandwagon, and began pointing out CoolBot's behavior.Tarhalindur wrote:Back after a week of relative inactivity.
The big question of the last six pages: why the hell was Surye not forced to claim when he reached L-2?
Oh wait, that's an easy question: Surye didn't have to claim because Ecto (and to a lesser extent Adel) derailed the wagon just after it reached L-2 and before Surye was forced to claim.
I'm not going to fault CoolBot for wanting a claim out of someone who should have been forced to claim 3 pages ago. I do, however, think Ectomancer's derailing the Surye wagon and many, many questions asked while giving only a few of his own thoughts indicates that Ecto is fairly likely to be scum.
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Adel Crystalline Logick
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people in glass houses, something something, shouldn't throw axes at people stirring the pot, or else a kettle will call you back.-
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shaft.ed dem.agogue
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CoolBot Mafia Scum
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Machiavellian-Mafia Mafia Scum
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Elias wrote:So...has anything actually relevant happened here yet? So far I see a baseless wagon on coolbot leading to a useless vanilla claim and thats about it.
I love how both of you are complaining that nothing relevant has happened while you both also are saying nothing relevant for pretty much the whole game.camisade wrote:yeah pretty much.The end justifies the means.-
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Tarhalindur Mod Screw
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Albert is not at the top of my scumdar for three reasons: 1) he was not on the Surye wagon in the first place, so it's somewhat more believable that he was simply against the Surye wagon from the beginning, 2) of all players on the site, Albert is the player I find hardest to read, especially on Day 1, and I prefer to vote for players that I actually have a scum read on, and 3) Ecto seems scummier to me right now, not to mention a bit under the radar.
I'm setting aside Adel for now mainly because her play here so far does not really fit my scum meta on her (in particular, she's being far more aggressive here than I remember her being in Mini 458). It's possible that she's changed her meta, but that's something we can deal with later. As things currently stand, I believe that Adel is either town or neutral.
Pickem: There is a difference between "asking questions and giving your analysis" and "asking questions instead of giving your own analysis" (and by analysis I mean player analysis). The former is pro-town, the latter is not, and Ecto seems to be doing the latter. Savvy?
This "why Ecto not Adel or Albert" flareup is very interesting, however. While I'm mulling it over, I see a player named Ecto who has bandwagon jumped three times with minimal reasoning and whose "thoughts", as I am reading them, largely consist of Mafia theory (as opposed to analysis with reasons on other players, which is what I was looking for from him). Got anything to say about that, Ecto?User out of ambit.
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Ectomancer Mafia Scum
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I cant help what you are looking for from me. I can only give you what I got.I have a degree in bullshit. I have patents on entire lines of bullshit. So don't sit here and feed me a line of bullshit and think that I'm not going to recognize it as one.
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camisade Goon
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Sorry which bandwagon do I have to jump on to be relevant I can't keep up.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Elias wrote:So...has anything actually relevant happened here yet? So far I see a baseless wagon on coolbot leading to a useless vanilla claim and thats about it.
I love how both of you are complaining that nothing relevant has happened while you both also are saying nothing relevant for pretty much the whole game.camisade wrote:yeah pretty much.-
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me too. though im not really complaining. I'm just explaining my take on the game, which is that nothing relevant has happened. I dont see how this is any different from saying that relevant things HAVE happened, except that you dont agree with it. Therefore I'm OBVIOUSLY complaining.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote: I love how both of you are complaining that nothing relevant has happened while you both also are saying nothing relevant for pretty much the whole game.I play the games rul gud.-
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Machiavellian-Mafia Mafia Scum
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