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aioqwe wrote:Yup, my recruiter is N-N, skruffs is also in the cult
Surely, you jest!aioqwe wrote: EBWOP: armlx is also with it.
Isn't it against the rules to expose your scum buddies and their hierarchies like that?
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By process of elimination during examination of the CKD wagon.aioqwe wrote: For example, how did you ascertain these suspicions?
Of the 6 responsible for the CKD mislynch, it was more or less a coin flip decision between the two I found the most suspicious. I felt the pressure would be better put on you at this point in the game.
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For starters, your missing the claim/leaving your vote on after realization was highly suspicious. Aoiqwe's actions were looking very scummy to close out the day yesterday and he has not redeemed himself yet today.Skruffs wrote: SlySly: can you explain your suspicion of the CKD train better?-
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But the assertion does provide a good out. It's one thing for scum to find a good reason to vote somebody; it's much better for scum if they can find a way to blame their vote on somebody else (ie. "I thought aio was counter-claiming. Bad aio for being so misleading!").NN wrote: armlx's blind acceptance of aio's statement as a counter-claim is bizzare, but I don't really see what scum motivation he could have had for making such an odd assertion with little benefit to be had (CKD was likely going to be lynched regardless of where armlx's vote was and why).
I'm curious as to why you would vote somebody on them apparently claiming recruit. Sure, they might well be recruiter, but that's not really a good enough reason. It's been discussed ad nauseum why Recruiter lynch >>>>>>>>>> Recruit lynch, so surely a recruit claim doesn't automatically merit a kneejerk vote?BEEP wrote: We'll find out.
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What did I do armlx? I just claimed a recruit and gave out my fellow cultees like a good townie wood
No N-N is actually my leader have fun lynching him You can lynch me next, but it's better to get rid of leaders first ehSlySly wrote:aioqwe wrote:Yup, my recruiter is N-N, skruffs is also in the cult
Surely, you jest!aioqwe wrote: EBWOP: armlx is also with it.
Isn't it against the rules to expose your scum buddies and their hierarchies like that?
But yeah, I'm town.
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Okay, I also intended how you arrived at how everyone else is "seemingly pro-town" or "no-suspicion". Do you see anyone who is somewhat scum?SlySly wrote:
By process of elimination during examination of the CKD wagon.aioqwe wrote: For example, how did you ascertain these suspicions?
Of the 6 responsible for the CKD mislynch, it was more or less a coin flip decision between the two I found the most suspicious. I felt the pressure would be better put on you at this point in the game.-
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I understand that it gave him a sneaky out (that's why it's scummy), but I don't understand why he would have to get in in the first place. Correct my timeline if it's off, but I believe a CKD lynch was pretty much assured by that point.vollkan wrote:
But the assertion does provide a good out. It's one thing for scum to find a good reason to vote somebody; it's much better for scum if they can find a way to blame their vote on somebody else (ie. "I thought aio was counter-claiming. Bad aio for being so misleading!").NN wrote: armlx's blind acceptance of aio's statement as a counter-claim is bizzare, but I don't really see what scum motivation he could have had for making such an odd assertion with little benefit to be had (CKD was likely going to be lynched regardless of where armlx's vote was and why).
Debating whether aio's backpedal is genuine, accidental, or incredibly suspicious. I'll report back later.Show"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.
"You shut up!" the second woman shouted back.
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I'm curious as to why you would vote somebody on them apparently claiming recruit. Sure, they might well be recruiter, but that's not really a good enough reason. It's been discussed ad nauseum why Recruiter lynch >>>>>>>>>> Recruit lynch, so surely a recruit claim doesn't automatically merit a kneejerk vote?
I tend to think that a recruiter is at least as likely to claim recruit as a recruit would be. Besides, if someone claims recruit, then we know that they've pretty much got to be some kind of scum but we don't know what kind, which automatically makes them a pretty good lynch at least.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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armlx Most JDTay-like
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I definitely agree with that, despite the D1 recruit claim being a lie.Yosarian2 wrote:
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I'm curious as to why you would vote somebody on them apparently claiming recruit. Sure, they might well be recruiter, but that's not really a good enough reason. It's been discussed ad nauseum why Recruiter lynch >>>>>>>>>> Recruit lynch, so surely a recruit claim doesn't automatically merit a kneejerk vote?
I tend to think that a recruiter is at least as likely to claim recruit as a recruit would be. Besides, if someone claims recruit, then we know that they've pretty much got to be some kind of scum but we don't know what kind, which automatically makes them a pretty good lynch at least.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I didn't see anywhere aioqwe claimed recruit seriously (posts 873-4 looked pretty obviously sarcastic to me, naming as he did all the people accusing him) but well said, Skruffs. If aioqwe turns up cult armlx should probably be next. I have a hunch Yos might be allied with Beep, also, which gives me a theory to guide a reread with; I will want to see whether that holds up, and if it does, who to round out the cults with. We could be close to a breakthrough here.I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons-
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Well, a recruit lynch is obviously vastly superior than a town lynch, but it also is not as good as a recruiter lynch by far. The point I was making was that voting recruit-claims on a kneejerk is not a good policy since, necessarily, the opportunity cost may be not lynching a recruiter. Nuanced judgment of the claim is needed, rather than simply reacting with a vote - as Beep did.Yosarian2 wrote:
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I'm curious as to why you would vote somebody on them apparently claiming recruit. Sure, they might well be recruiter, but that's not really a good enough reason. It's been discussed ad nauseum why Recruiter lynch >>>>>>>>>> Recruit lynch, so surely a recruit claim doesn't automatically merit a kneejerk vote?
I tend to think that a recruiter is at least as likely to claim recruit as a recruit would be. Besides, if someone claims recruit, then we know that they've pretty much got to be some kind of scum but we don't know what kind, which automatically makes them a pretty good lynch at least.
Yos's post was very much correct, but I don't see how it justifies this vote by you.Skruffs wrote: Wow. Yos's last post was incredibly insightful. Bravo, Yos.
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Oh. Were only other players allowed to read Yos's post? Or are you saying that I'm not supposed to be voting right now?
Aioqwe has as much sa claimed recruit. Yos explained why someone claiming recruit is most likely NOT a recruit, which means they are more likely a cult recruiter or an SK.
You agree with his post but you don't agree with putting his post into action?
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Er...no. Maybe you could explain this in more detail. My understanding of Yos's post was as follows:Skruffs wrote:Oh. Were only other players allowed to read Yos's post? Or are you saying that I'm not supposed to be voting right now?
Aioqwe has as much sa claimed recruit. Yos explained why someone claiming recruit is most likely NOT a recruit, which means they are more likely a cult recruiter or an SK.
You agree with his post but you don't agree with putting his post into action?
IGMEOY VollkanI think that's two eyes on you now.
"Anybody that claims recruit is scum. Thus, they are more likely than any player taken at random to be cult leader. Since they are scum anyway, that makes them a fairly good lynch"
I agree with that.
What I donotagree with is seeing a recruit claim as justification for slapping a vote down.
So, let me ask you, what makes you think that aio is a recruiteras opposed to a recruit (why isn't the word 'recruitee' by the way? I mean, we have "employer" and "employee", not "employer" and "employ". Answer THAT as well skruffs!)?-
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I'm sorry.
Did you really just say that claiming scum is not enough of a reason to vote someone?
You did.
How about this:
If you really think that Yosarian2's statement is fairly accurate BUT that it shouldn't be held applicable to Vollkan, why don't you go ahead and point out who you think the recruiter IS?-
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I donno, Arlmx, why did you recruit aioqwe?armlx wrote:I still think aioqwe is a recruit not a recruiter claiming recruit. Only thing I'm wondering is who recruited him and when/why. He seems like a very low profile recruiting target.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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I see what you did there...Yosarian2 wrote:
I donno, Arlmx, why did you recruit aioqwe?armlx wrote:I still think aioqwe is a recruit not a recruiter claiming recruit. Only thing I'm wondering is who recruited him and when/why. He seems like a very low profile recruiting target.
In all seriousness, as CL, I would avoid recruiting players I feel could be a liability to me.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st
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