Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[armlx]

Usually I promote Kscopes death around here, but we have relevant things to do with our lynch. Farside can vig him if she sees fit.

[Matt_S]

Kscope's not scum either.

[farside22]

Kscope's not scum either.

I agree and will not be vigging Kscope. Just didn't like his comment, but he is being typical. Plus what he said in regards to my FOS makes me feel better.
TSPN. OMGUS much.

[armlx]

Scummy:
Imat (lots of FOSes w/ little vote movement, wagoned TLP, sounds very opportunistic)
WhoMe? (Voting nemesis early, Tlp wagon, pushing deadline, pushing TS wagon who I now think is obv town)
killa 7 (all the things i said about antithesis lurking in plain sight)
Celebloki (Peers is capable of logic as town. He was deliberately dumb here)

???:
skitzer (more posting plz)
Tarhalidur (interested in whole him/matt_s issue)
Surye (waiting for him to say more)
xtoxm (no freaking clue here)
Matt_s (I got nothing here, all his posts are pretty neutral tell-wise IMO, Tar thing going on)
Kscope (is Kscope, not getting much from GSgold either, if matt_s moves to town he prob does too)
TSN (unsure, sounds like him + matt_s fighting for no reason, null argument on both, his scum list over Rosso is looking a lot like mine AKA he was actually reading the game at that time, Kscope issue is making me wary)

Town:
Andycyca (seems conservative yet willing to do stuff, townish)
TS (actually trying to help, Incog is obv town on review for same reason)
Pie (not really seeing VD scum right now)
mnowax (a lot of QuickBen's posts seem pro-town to me, could be wrong here, mno seems on par)
farside (obv)
andersonw (not a lot of posts, comes off as pro-town. Could be wrong again. Also reasons from an ongoing)
CKD (yeah, I trust him as being legit so far in his reasoning)

[armlx]

Cross off pie from that list, he is dead now. Forgot to cross him off when updating.

[killa seven]

you forgot me on your town list.

[Toaster Strudel]

I am in favor of a WhoMe? lynch.

[Tarhalindur]

Kscope's not scum either.

Okay, now you've all but invalidated one of the two possible reasons why you as town could have any certainty that Skitzer is town. Considering that and the manner in which you derailed the Skitzer wagon yesterday, I find it extremely likely that you are scum. Time to dispense with the pleasantries.

Matt_S, I want a damn good explanation of why you seem so certain that Skitzer and KScope are town. If you want to claim role-based information, it's time to spit it out. Otherwise, you need to explain why you failed to explain your opinions on these two players... and it needs to be a damn good explanation.

Confirm Vote

[Matt_S]

I have role-based information. I've made it clear what the information is, and the role is irrelevant.

[armlx]

you forgot me on your town list.

I C WUT U DID THUR!

Yeah, not helping.

[Tarhalindur]

I have role-based information. I've made it clear what the information is, and the role is irrelevant.

Au contraire. The role is very relevant, because I'm looking at the possibility that you have already been counterclaimed.

There is exactly 1 role you could have that fits perfectly with what I know and what you have claimed to know. If you claim any other role, I will consider you counterclaimed.

That said, in the interest of trying to keep your role at least partially hidden in the case that you are telling the truth after all, I have one more question for you before I ask for a fullclaim: Have you breadcrumbed your role? Don't point out the crumbs, a yes or no will suffice.

[Matt_S]

I thought about breadcrumbing, but I never quite got around to it.

Somehow I think you're only doing this because you were the cop.

[curiouskarmadog]

Matt, since you have already stated you didnt breadcrumb, i think this is a safe question..do you typically breadcrumb in games? if so, do you have a completed game that can be referenced. Have you ever breadcrumbed as scum?

also, where is skitzer?

and I dont see kscope acting any different in this game than I have ever seen him act.

[armlx]

Skitzer hasn't posted in one of my newbies in a while either.

Mod Prod please?

[Matt_S]

Matt, since you have already stated you didnt breadcrumb, i think this is a safe question..do you typically breadcrumb in games? if so, do you have a completed game that can be referenced. Have you ever breadcrumbed as scum?

I've got one complete game here, and I didn't breadcrumb. The few other places where I played mafia were just too simple for things like breadcrumbs.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

TSPN. OMGUS much.

Yep. I've given him more than his fair share of chances to explain himself. What if he was scum? How would you tell?

[Andycyca]

Sorry for not posting. Somehow I thought this game was over and stopped watching it. Rereading

[armlx]

Sorry for not posting. Somehow I thought this game was over and stopped watching it. Rereading

Lol, I don't think you get it, this game will NEVER be over.

Well, not really, but its looking like it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Tarhalindur

Fishing

[curiouskarmadog]

ok skitzer, you are posting now, time to give this thread some attention.

[skitzer]

OK. I'm sorry.

I know why Matt_S knows I'm town. Matt_S is incorrect on one point, though. There is a breadcrumb. It's not very obvious unless you know the whole of it.

On another entirely different note, what did BM's Drug Dealer role do? I'm kind of confused.

[curiouskarmadog]

I think BM was the posioner, he lied about being a Hider (miller?). Which does explain why he tried to weasle his way out of being tested, which was one of the things that tinged my radar. The BM i know (and I am sure others agree) would jump at the chance to be confirmed (espeically in the position he was in) because it would have given him the power to basically rule this thread and scum could not have done anything about it. So when he began backing out, I took this as a sign of guilt...side note: BM if you are reading this, after the game ends, I would love to know why you claimed Hider.

skitzer...I am more interested in who you think is scum and why...

[armlx]

CKD, I'm pretty sure BM claimed hider to extend his own life. Mafia is never going to kill a hider.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I agree with armlx. . . and also, that's why the lynch all liars meta exists, to discourage backfires like that.

[armlx]

I promote the shun all people who lie like BM did lynch those who dangerously lie meta.