Mini 588: Achewood Mafia - Game Over!

[populartajo]

dos, he drank. i investigated him to see if he really had that role or not.

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Yes you did. So who do you think is the SK?

I have a bad feeling about this question.
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OG its impossible our cop was lying. So, does Chris Onstead go to your bar?

[Alabaska J]

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Extended bah: OG did in fact call three scum in one post. Damn.

[populartajo]

Yep. Pretty awesome or pretty strange.
Alabaska, it should have been hard to post 147, right?

[Alabaska J]

You have no idea. The things I do to look town…

[OG Smokedank]

dos, he drank. i investigated him to see if he really had that role or not.

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Yes you did. So who do you think is the SK?

I have a bad feeling about this question.
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OG its impossible our cop was lying. So, does Chris Onstead go to your bar?

to greasy spot: i think the sk would be someone who thought cipher was pro-town (sk wouldnt want to kill off scum because they wouldnt want the town focus on them). i'll do a reread and see if someone let slip on it. the sk might also have been low-profile posting.

to populartajo read the thread, you are literally the worst for this. i said in the post before this one my results, i'm not repeating stuff for you that you were too lazy to read once.

[NabakovNabakov]

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4 to lynch.

[lulu muumuu]

thinktank mentioned there might be a godfather which seems very suspicious to me because:

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Extended bah: OG did in fact call three scum in one post. Damn.

i'd say this pretty much means all that's left is an SK, not to mention i think at this point scum would not kill themselves for the sake of being clever (if there were a 4 scum team)

i agree with OG that whomever is SK probably thought cipher/lemming was innocent, since it would be in the SKs best interest to keep a scum group around.
i also think that the SK was either clever enough to hold a kill night one, absent enough to not get a choice in, or else the SK was roleblocked by cipher/lemming.
this makes it seem very possible that the SK thought lemming was town but lemming suspected the SK, thus the SKs night choice N2 (and possibly lemming's choice N1).

time to reread!

[populartajo]

We should massclaim.

[OG Smokedank]

We should massclaim.

nothing stopping you from going first

[populartajo]

We should massclaim.

nothing stopping you from going first

Town's agreement, probably?

[lulu muumuu]

if we're going to do it, let's make sure everyone is on board and do it right away before scum has a chance to make up a claim.

i'm okay claiming.

[Alabaska J]

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Extended bah: OG did in fact call three scum in one post. Damn.

This post contains no additional information to the game. Do not use it in arguments for anything one way or another.

[mustafa15]

thinktank mentioned there might be a godfather which seems very suspicious to me because:

anyway i just want to say i fucking called it. post 145 go read it and see how awesome i am

Extended bah: OG did in fact call three scum in one post. Damn.

i'd say this pretty much means all that's left is an SK, not to mention i think at this point scum would not kill themselves for the sake of being clever (if there were a 4 scum team)

i agree with OG that whomever is SK probably thought cipher/lemming was innocent, since it would be in the SKs best interest to keep a scum group around.
i also think that the SK was either clever enough to hold a kill night one, absent enough to not get a choice in, or else the SK was roleblocked by cipher/lemming.
this makes it seem very possible that the SK thought lemming was town but lemming suspected the SK, thus the SKs night choice N2 (and possibly lemming's choice N1).

time to reread!

I don't really see how alabaska's quote tells you that there was a 3 man scum team. It just says that 3 scum were called, not that all 3 scum were called, or that 3 of the scum were called, but only that 3 were called, which we already know. It would seem sensible that if there are goons, there would be a godfather, although I'm not sure if there are enough antagonists in achewood for this. Nice Pete is pretty obviously the serial killer, but I can't really think of another bad guy. Lyle maybe???

Anyways, I'm all for a mass roleclaim, it seems like lulu muumuu and popular tajo are ok with this, and since OG has already claimed, it would be good if we could get one more person on board before we start claiming. Thinktank? Musher? Greasy Spot? Bueller? Bueller?

[lulu muumuu]

i think i must have read his post and read it as "...called all 3 scum..." my bad guys =(

that being said, i still think it is more likely there are 2 anti-town groups rather than a 4 scum team because if there are only 2 left on the team, i don't think you'd want to kill a teammate for the sake of possibly clearing the remaining scumbuddy. so in my mind, either there were two mafia on opposite teams, or we have a remaining SK.

if it was a mafia group (let's call them mafia group A), they could have killed cipher/lemming because they thought he was in mafia B, a SK, or town. if mafia A thought C/L was in mafia B (or town), i could see mafia group A being vocal about it.

if it was an SK that killed C/L, it's still possible that the SK wanted to kill cipher/lemming because the SK thought he was town.

also:

i also think that the SK was either clever enough to hold a kill night one, absent enough to not get a choice in, or else the SK was roleblocked by cipher/lemming.
this makes it seem very possible that the SK thought lemming was town but lemming suspected the SK, thus the SKs night choice N2 (and possibly lemming's choice N1).

what i meant to say was:

i also think that the SK was either clever enough to hold a kill night one, absent enough to not get a choice in, or else the SK was roleblocked by

alabaska j N1

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this makes it seem very possible that the SK thought lemming was town but lemming suspected the SK, thus the SKs night choice N2

i guess this also holds true if it's a second mafia.

i'm thinking we need to go back to D2 and see who alabaska mentioned roleblocking.

[OG Smokedank]

two scum teams in a 12 player game sounds fucking dumb. 3 and a serial killer makes way more sense.

hurry up and claim everyone so we can figure this out

[Greasy Spot]

two scum teams in a 12 player game sounds fucking dumb. 3 and a serial killer makes way more sense.

hurry up and claim everyone so we can figure this out

Just for the record I don't mind claiming. I have nothing to hide, but how does everyone claiming town really help the town. Seriously, think about it. Nobody is gonna stand up and say, "Uh, hey guys, I'm the last scum.". It's stupid game play and none is that stupid.

@mustafa15: I've been in games where there are goons and no Godfather. An F11 setup has two options like that. I don't know anything about Achewood but the fact that a goon was NK'd leans heavily toward 2 separate scum groups or a SK. I would lean towards a SK of some sort of 3rd party Role.

[populartajo]

two scum teams in a 12 player game sounds fucking dumb. 3 and a serial killer makes way more sense.

hurry up and claim everyone so we can figure this out

Just for the record I don't mind claiming. I have nothing to hide, but how does everyone claiming town really help the town. Seriously, think about it. Nobody is gonna stand up and say, "Uh, hey guys, I'm the last scum.". It's stupid game play and none is that stupid.

@mustafa15: I've been in games where there are goons and no Godfather. An F11 setup has two options like that. I don't know anything about Achewood but the fact that a goon was NK'd leans heavily toward 2 separate scum groups or a SK. I would lean towards a SK of some sort of 3rd party Role.

Flavor is usually a good weapon.

[Greasy Spot]

I can point you to a game I'm currently where flavor can be very misleading.

[populartajo]

I can point you to a game I'm currently where flavor can be very misleading.

Note the word usually.
Any other idea, then?

[Greasy Spot]

Hunt

[OG Smokedank]

roleclaims are nice for night action continuity if nothing else. also remember i can checksomeone's flavor over

[populartajo]

roleclaims are nice for night action continuity if nothing else. also remember i can checksomeone's flavor over

I agree with this girl. That doesnt mean we stop hunting, though.
We need more Musher. I have a bad feeling about him.

[mustafa15]

I think you guys are right. It's pretty obvious that there is a sk, just because 2 people were killed last night, and this is a game based on a comic with Nice Pete, a serial killer, in it. This would mean that if there was a godfather, then 5/12 people would be scum, which seems unlikely, right? Can we prod musher or something? More activity would be nice...

[populartajo]

Prod : Musher, palease.

[OG Smokedank]

hurry up and claim, i'm waiting for you guys *yawn*