aioqwe (2) - SlySly, Skruffs
Beep! Beep! (1) - the silent speaker
Skruffs (1) - mnowax
vollkan (1) - Beep! Beep!
Not voting (5): aioqwe, armlx, NabakovNabakov, vollkan, Yosarian2
6 to lynch
QFT.So first we have to decide if aio actually is cult who got spooked by insta-pressure or townie who got caught theorizing. One thing is certain, he's not standing up there and saying "I'm a recruit, don't lynch me" (which is what some people are basically boiling it down to)
I'm not making that connectionsaioqwe wrote:If you are scum, you could also phrase your posts in an iffy way to mislead other people, which is exactly what I believe you were doing.
SlySly wrote: THE CKD TRAIN
HE played it off as a joke, but he intentionally 'connected' himself to other players in the game, which reeks of WIFOM. He acknowledged that because his behavior had changed that it meant he was likely a recruit and then suggested that I was a cult recruitor because, apparently, my behavior DIDN'T change. (Still waiting for Vollkan to pipe in with something more than "I have a dream that you are the CL" on that one).aioqwe wrote:What did I do armlx? I just claimed a recruit and gave out my fellow cultees like a good townie wood
No N-N is actually my leader have fun lynching him You can lynch me next, but it's better to get rid of leaders first ehSlySly wrote:aioqwe wrote:Yup, my recruiter is N-N, skruffs is also in the cultSurely, you jest!aioqwe wrote: EBWOP: armlx is also with it.
Isn't it against the rules to expose your scum buddies and their hierarchies like that?
But yeah, I'm town.
I can't remember how many times we've been over this again and again now, but you have just misrepresented me.Skruffs paraphrasing me wrote: "This guy claimed recruit. I agree that someone claimed recruit is more likely to be a recruiter than another form. I can't think of any other ways to determine if someone is likely to be a cult recruiter. I stringently oppose you pressuring that player, even though they are the most likely player in the game to be cult leader and I Can offer no other ways to determine if someone is cult!
I've been quite clear throughout my posts about what I don't like about you. If you've forgotten, view my posts in isolation and search "Skr".Skruffs wrote:
I can understand why you are so worried abou kneejerk voting. After all, the last time you voted was a reasonless bandwagon hop onto my wagon, May 17th. Perhaps you ahven't heard o f the concept of "Pressure Voting", but it's a tactic wherein players vote a suspicious player to A) get reactions from them and B) get reactions from other players.
For starters, nice strawman, but I might suggest a bit more subtlety. I say that I don't want snap voting - and you attack me for not wanting "any attention" on the claimers. Bravo.Skruffs wrote:This doesn't work, though. You agree that they claimed scum. You agree that the reasoning on her is sound (Recruitors would claim recruit), and you can't think of any other way to determine wether she is scum or not. You basically are saying you just don't want any attention on her, even though she claimed scum.Vollkan wrote: I'm not defending claimed scum. I'm questioning the sense of voting the claimed scum without making an effort to explain why she is the best lynch. I find that accusations of 'defending' are among the most stupid sort to make. If somebody votes a claimed scum for what I see as a poor reason, why is it wrong of me to point it out?
Ah! Now we get to conspiracy arguments. The fact that I am questioning you and not her indicates some sinister design on my own part, does it? Equally, it's fascinating that you are spending all this time focussed on me whilst (eeny meeny miney mo) ignoring Yosarian2. See what I did thar?Skruffs wrote: There's nothing wrong with pointing out 'poor reasoning' for voting someone, bu in this case, you have outright said that you AGREE with the reasoning. However despite that you are questioning the peopple voting her (more than one) And directing no questions towards her, yourself.
Wonder why not?
Skruffs, I think that focussing on you and focussing on the scum are very much one and the same.Skruffs wrote: This is what you say, but not what you do. FOcussing on other players and ignoring the scum. Tsk. You're a defense attorney, aren't you? How is aio paying you?
Nice. "Something" is wrong, but you aren't going to say what. Gut-fluff, in other words.Skruffs wrote: I just really don't like the whole "I am not going ot analyze or offer input of my own but I'm going to criticize you for yours because I think it's flawed!" line of thinking you have. Something abou it is very wrong.
Good point. I'd like to know if skruffs thinks that such a claim actually merits insta-votes.NN wrote: Um guys, I think there's something getting lost here.
When aio posted something along the lines of "well, if it looked like I was a recruit, it would be silly to lynch me." I decided to amp that up and accused him of softclaiming. In (serious) posts since then, he has stridently denied this.
So first we have to decide if aio actually is cult who got spooked by insta-pressure or townie who got caught theorizing. One thing is certain, he's not standing up there and saying "I'm a recruit, don't lynch me" (which is what some people are basically boiling it down to)
Fire away. Unless we lynch him first.Mno wrote: im killing skruffs, unless there is a problem with anyone other than skruffs saying there is a problem with it.
I am "Different" because I've SEEN you as scum and as town and I pay attention to your CHARACTER.mnowax wrote:i know isn't it so kewl that no cult would recruit me? it makes me live longer as a town member and not a cultie.
i konw you were pushing for me to be town. its EXACTLY the reason why i think youre scum. youre right in that i am town, however most people think i am scummy. why are you so different? cause youre scum that is making it look like youre distancing from me. , so when you go down, they will be able to lynch a powerful town role like me cause you were distancing.
It's a joke nothing more to it. I added in armlx in the second post because I didn't see his attack in the post right before the first post.Skruffs wrote:I don't think the first post was a joke. I think you threw out the second post exactly for hte reason you did: A joke that you could erite off later, if you survived. IF you didn't survive, it looks like a lot of WIFOM connections to several living players in the game that, presumably, would give town a turkey chase to go after.
You have done nothing to actually HUNT for scum in this game. You are voting me SOLELY because you think I am a competing lynch and you want to be part of something without making yourself vulnerable.
*shrug*armlx wrote:Umm, yeah, its pretty obvious aioqwe is scum at this point, but I don't think he's a CL.