goborage wrote:Your points against me are not "individually scummy", but are associative with DBE. You haven't proved that I am scummy independent of her. Why?
I wrote:Looking at goborage:
Day 1 he was pretty useless for the most part. Had to be prodded hard by multiple players to get him to do something as basic as laying out what he thought about people, and even then he was extremely reluctant and gave very little information - basically giving everyone a neutral read. Discusses theory a bit, but makes little effort to actually find scum. Hops on the Malth/OG wagon when I started pushing for a lynch before deadline.
Day 2 makes the WIFOM argument that scum would be off Malth's wagon to vote for populartajo. Very convenient stance to take if both he and buddy DBE got on that wagon to be visible helping lynch scum. He basically lurks through all of Day 2, making a total of 6 very short, noninformative posts, and carefully avoids saying anything about the two main wagons of the day, DBE and xofelf. While his reasons for attacking tajo early D2 are not entirely bad, I don't like the WIFOM, or the fact that he then just sat his vote there the rest of the day without commenting on anything else particularly. He also says "lynching [Greasy] for being anti-town is as good a reason as any," making the implication that Greasy is a good lynch for anti-town behavior even if he's not scum. This argument always makes me twitch.
Today, he's posted a bit more, but has done basically nothing except defend DBE and attack Greasy.
Basically he's been closemouthed, posting as little information as possible, and has made no real effort to figure out who the scum are, just gone along with a few cases where it was convenient, and ignored the rest of the game.
This was the part where you're individually scummy. You're not asking questions or actively trying to figure out who the scum are, you're jsut hopping on other cases and running with it. Your play is very "yeah, me too." Town had to lean on you hard Day 1 to get you to post the most basic information of substance, and even then you still gave us almost nothing.
goborage wrote:Basically he's been closemouthed, posting as little information as possible, and has made no real effort to figure out who the scum are, just gone along with a few cases where it was convenient, and ignored the rest of the game.
This right here can be used to describe GS, coheed, and possibly Amor. My question is why am I being focused on? Why haven't you asked any GS, Coheed, or Amor any questions? The only difference I can see between my play and the others is that I've been linked to DBE.
It tends to describe Greasy, but he has had limited access and this behavior isn't outside the normal range for him. (You really need to work on your playstyle btw, Greasy.)
It somewhat describes coheed, but he's been on vacation a lot, and has been good about telling us. He has also at least posted brief comments on major wagons without having the entire town yell at him, which is something you can't really say. I'd kinda rather he just got replaced being on vacation this much, but there's nothing I can do about that.
It doesn't describe Amor at all. What kind of pathetic joke is that? Trying to rope Amor in for being closemouthed and case hopping strikes me as extremely desperate.
Saying that a statement of why you're scummy could maybe apply to others is a rather uninspiring defense.
goborage wrote:Atm I'm thinking your "scum-hunting" is rather selective. If you're using meta to defend GS (which isn't a great idea imo) you should be doing for me as well. There's a lull in almost all my games for the last month and a half or so due to school/work.
I don't care how busy you are, you can manage more than "top voted: slightly scum, everyone else neutral" or six lines of text with no substantial contribution in an entire game day. If you can't, then get yourself replaced.
"By far the towniest player in the game. Very good scum hunting, doesn't let anyone off the hook. All in all I find Mac's posts insightful and thought-provoking. " - Vel-Rahn Koon