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[Amrun]

So post game are we all jumping on a discord and watching all the source materials?

Because I think my waifu is from a criminally underwatched anime.

I chose my waifu to induce nerd rage, personally.

[Amrun]

So I am not surprised by my low tier.

[Amrun]

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

I think this is outside of norwegian’s scumrange. He is most likely town.


My point was I kind of expected to roll scum with my pick and I did not, so I don’t think alignment is related to waifu.

[Amrun]

Also, y’all need Jesus.

[Amrun]

My point in saying I picked a questionable waifu with a low tier was a) to see what shook out, b) to assert that alignment was unrelated to waifu.

I wasn’t in the previous game and didn’t know it existed so.

[Amrun]

I got a townread on Norwegian from it so I regret nothing.

[Amrun]

I think this is outside of norwegian’s scumrange. He is most likely town.

Are you basing this read on observations made from Fusion mafia?

Yeah, basically.

[Amrun]

I like Norwegian's initiative but his reasoning is kind of eh at best but it's only page 8.

He’s the only one making a push and talking about actual AI content that makes reasonable sense. Like, he’s wrong, but I baited scumreads so, can’t complain.

[Amrun]

Also my role probably confirms that the game is not a small town.

Town doesnt need to know everyones tiers.

Scum would like to know to target high tiers.

Keep your tiers a secret you fools.

I believe this to be not town, for now

Why?

[Amrun]

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

I think this is outside of norwegian’s scumrange. He is most likely town.


My point was I kind of expected to roll scum with my pick and I did not, so I don’t think alignment is related to waifu.

Oh, interesting. I guess this means you picked a waifu who is associated with evil/darkness/treason? I didn't expect this from you, and i didn't expect that a evil girl would be low-tier. They are usually more powerful than average, i find it weird that the mods would give a powerful girl a low tier, unless she comes from a source i know nothing about.

Not exactly. I picked a girl weebs rage over. I actually quite like her myself, in certain ways, and enjoy trolling about her.

[Amrun]

Somewhere in my pm, the phrase “worst girl” appears. That’s all I have to say.

[Amrun]

Catchup finished. Admire my almighty truthfully readlist:

TOWN
NorwegianboyEE
Bitmap
Xtoxm
Amrun
Espeonage
Eragon
WonderTime
Yumeko and Kirari
Brian Skies
Adorable
Shadowlesscloud
SCUM

TOO MUCH NULL
Shireen Baratheon

VOTE: shadowlesscloud i will start from here.

@Amrun, since you asked: in the precedent iteration of anime upick i have already experienced this kind of early lamistiness/protective behavior coming from scum. Also, the two posts i quoted from shadowless are not really compatible together.

@Bitmap with regards to neighborhoods, i think Eragon + Bitmap + Xtoxm would make nice, but we have time.

Can you explain how the posts conflict? I don’t get it.

[Amrun]

anyways the only nerd rage "waifu" is sakura from naruto or Rachel from tower of god. And one is alot more common then the other

I have literally not seen a single episode of either.

Sakura in a nutshell

Spoiler: sakura lul

I am Sakura but I wish I chose Rachel. That would have been trollier. GDI

[Amrun]

btw i think bitmap and esp either have to be t/t or s/s.

them being t/s would offset the balance of their roles, and im assuming this is their only ability which would mean the scum gain the advantage here while the town one of them would be pretty weak considering.

that being said i like both to a certain degree so far so t/t is where im sitting

I don’t agree with this and think it would be really weird for it to be S/S and don’t see why it has to be T/T.

However, I’m independently TR them.

Farkran, you can ignore my previous question about the small town thing. You answered it later.

[Amrun]

anyways the only nerd rage "waifu" is sakura from naruto or Rachel from tower of god. And one is alot more common then the other

I have literally not seen a single episode of either.

Sakura in a nutshell

Spoiler: sakura lul

I am Sakura but I wish I chose Rachel. That would have been trollier. GDI

KNEW IT

Also i would have tunneled you to fucking hell and back

I demand a sequel so I can choose Rachel. It didn’t occur to me since it’s a WEBTOON.

[Amrun]

If there is a majority for the student council election before there is a majority for the day's Lynch does the hood happen straight away and is it locked in or still changable?

Does the Student Council have day talk?

If the answer is the election happens whenever that hits majority first and there is day talk, I think it's likely better to do that first as I feel like whoever wins it out of me and bitty likely gets a target on their back.

Student council election votes are finalized at the end of the day.

Doesn’t seem like a lie.

[Amrun]

Is that the only things you have to comment on, Adorable? Do you have any reads?

[Amrun]

If there is a majority for the student council election before there is a majority for the day's Lynch does the hood happen straight away and is it locked in or still changable?

Does the Student Council have day talk?

If the answer is the election happens whenever that hits majority first and there is day talk, I think it's likely better to do that first as I feel like whoever wins it out of me and bitty likely gets a target on their back.

Student council election votes are finalized at the end of the day.

Doesn’t seem like a lie.

I’d consider that bastard.

Fake mod announcers are not new to upicks

[Amrun]

That was an oddly quick succession of votes.

I have no opinion on this wagon.

[Amrun]

That was an oddly quick succession of votes.

I have no opinion on this wagon.

Who do you think we should vote?

-Y

Did you only vote because Espeonage did?

[Amrun]

VOTE: yemoko and Kirari

Seems like a backward justification of a sheep on Eragon. Made it seem like he was present and posting fluff but he hadn’t posted at all in 200 posts. Nothx

[Amrun]

Brian Skies gets town points from me because he picked up on some things I also picked up on re: Adorable.

I was simply avoiding pressuring there for now for ~reasons~ I hope to share later. Adorable is a newer player and deserves some room to settle in ... I’ll say that.

[Amrun]

Seems like a backward justification of a sheep on Eragon.

Well that's what you asked us for, so...

-Y

No, I didn’t ask you to make a poor vote and then half ass a reason to sheep.

Sheeping is fine, or can be. I don’t like how you went about it.

Bitmap’s similar vote didn’t bother me - it’s all in the execution.

[Amrun]

I didn’t mind the vote; I was just curious at first. I didn’t like their answer to my question.

I think bitmap sheeping you contextually makes sense and bitmap gave Norwegian a TR for being the only one to not flufflpost in that same timeframe so it’s internally consistent. Even if it’s just a random fluff poster to choochoo - works for now (for me).

[Amrun]

I think the hesitation to vote at 75 is, in itself, showing a concern for optics - why not vote? There was no vote out. It would have helped progress the game.

[Amrun]

I mean, that’s 4 posts later, and a real vote > RVS. I disagree with that assessment anyway.

I mean you don’t have to follow me, Espe, but I find hesitating to vote an ostensible scumread and only gaining the coMidden was to do so when the slot is absent and someone else voted first to be the most scum indicative thing in the game so far, easily.

[Amrun]

coMidden = confidence

Strangest autocorrect ever

[Amrun]

Fucking choo choo bitches

[Amrun]

If there is a majority for the student council election before there is a majority for the day's Lynch does the hood happen straight away and is it locked in or still changable?

Does the Student Council have day talk?

If the answer is the election happens whenever that hits majority first and there is day talk, I think it's likely better to do that first as I feel like whoever wins it out of me and bitty likely gets a target on their back.

Student council election votes are finalized at the end of the day.

Doesn’t seem like a lie.

I’d consider that bastard.

Fake mod announcers are not new to upicks

Upicks *are* bastard. Last game had a role that posted mod announcements that contained false information soooo

Was this game on mafia scum?

I don’t have an expectation for upicks to be bastard.

[Amrun]

VOTE: Adorable

Generally weak reads and their town reads have no real effort behind it and seems like they just ripped them from Farkran. Their interactions with Brian was bad as well.

YK isn't a bad wagon but it seems the premise for that wagon was their vote on Eragon as the second vote and being scummy while I basically got a free pass for being the third vote seemed pretty bad reasoning overall.

@YK:

Who are you townreading and scumreading atm?

I support this line of thought, but i want to clarify that my scumlean of YK has little to do with their vote, which is just part of an overall tendency to look like they're doing things whereas they aren't. It's very early, but all i see them doing is asking questions but not drawing conclusions from answers. There's no depth in their posts, just surface-level busywork. I could say the same about adorable.

I think i have reconsidered my previous read of shadowless, still not hood-worthy though, in my opinion.

@Bitmap do you think Amrun is up to something bad?

Okay, thanks for clarifying. I kind of thought the same thing as you on the surface-level busywork which is why I explicitly asked YK for reads.

I'm not really sure on Amrun yet but like out of all the votes on Eragon, even I would say mine would have been the most suspicious which makes the whole Amrun-YK interaction kind of weird.

Once again, I really didn’t mind either one of your votes.


However, I found it super weird that they “wanted” to vote for Eragon at post 75 and didn’t for ???? reasons. That’s why I’m voting there.

[Amrun]

Once again, I really didn’t mind either one of your votes.


However, I found it super weird that they “wanted” to vote for Eragon at post 75 and didn’t for ???? reasons. That’s why I’m voting there.

VOTE: Eragon

They talk a lot but say nothing

-Y

They stated they wanted to vote Eragon because of fluff posting from this post. Am I missing something because I still don't get it.

Yes you are missing something.

I questioned them for shits and giggles and they said they “wanted” to vote Eragon at post 75 but didn’t.

This makes no sense to me. They had no vote out, and no content themselves at that point. Why avoid giving it, if they had it in mind? They’re concerned with appearances and playing cautiously.


@y+k: I have no experience with the non-Krazy head, no. It could be a playstyle clash. We will see.

[Amrun]

VOTE: Adorable

Generally weak reads and their town reads have no real effort behind it and seems like they just ripped them from Farkran. Their interactions with Brian was bad as well.

YK isn't a bad wagon but it seems the premise for that wagon was their vote on Eragon as the second vote and being scummy while I basically got a free pass for being the third vote seemed pretty bad reasoning overall.

@YK:

Who are you townreading and scumreading atm?

I support this line of thought, but i want to clarify that my scumlean of YK has little to do with their vote, which is just part of an overall tendency to look like they're doing things whereas they aren't. It's very early, but all i see them doing is asking questions but not drawing conclusions from answers. There's no depth in their posts, just surface-level busywork. I could say the same about adorable.

I think i have reconsidered my previous read of shadowless, still not hood-worthy though, in my opinion.

@Bitmap do you think Amrun is up to something bad?

Okay, thanks for clarifying. I kind of thought the same thing as you on the surface-level busywork which is why I explicitly asked YK for reads.

I'm not really sure on Amrun yet but like out of all the votes on Eragon, even I would say mine would have been the most suspicious which makes the whole Amrun-YK interaction kind of weird.

Once again, I really didn’t mind either one of your votes.


However, I found it super weird that they “wanted” to vote for Eragon at post 75 and didn’t for ???? reasons. That’s why I’m voting there.

Ok lets take a step back. Post 75 is Eragon saying "Interesting" which is why I don't get your argument right now. Can you please clarify the correct post or quote it for me?

Yeah that’s the right post. They’re saying they found that one word post scummy and wanted to vote for them then, but instead, elected to continue to vote for NO ONE until someone else voted Eragon first, while Eragon was absent.

[Amrun]

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

[Amrun]

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

Ok, but I did address that. I know I care much more about my appearance as town than as scum. Bc I know I can always cash in on free credit as scum by using theatre and aloofness and idgaf is usually towered by people.

I don't think caring about appearances is AI necessarily.

It’s more the manner in which one cares about appearances. That particular one just rubbed me the wrong way.

Like - did they even think they wanted to vote at post 75, or did they just invent that because they thought I was about to attack them for sheeping?

What would the town concern about voting vs not voting at page 75 even be?

Why would scum be concerned about this - why would Town?

IMO there are a lot more scum reasons to be having any of those thoughts.

[Amrun]

Adorable, you have only elaborated your scumread of brian skies. What about your other reads? I see we agree about some of our reads, perhaps including brian himself, but i'd like to hear your perspective on the other names you mentioned.

Xtoxm - He said the role he got basically needs to be claimed saying if anyone needs their tier upgrading are to visit him and he also said even then, some abilities won't increase tier visitor for example, he's told wouldn't work. The claim looks really ballsy and I doubt scum would make a claim like this on day 1.

Norway - I liked his early scum hunting and this was when most of the pages were fluff at the time. He said he had early scum pings on Espeonage and Amrun. A few posts later he said maybe Espeonage is town and that looked like town who was trying to figure out Espeonage's alignment.

Bitmap - When I read through his iso his play looked town. I liked how he was interacting with players and #252 the reads looked genuine.

This is a good post from Adorable.

[Amrun]

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

Ok, but I did address that. I know I care much more about my appearance as town than as scum. Bc I know I can always cash in on free credit as scum by using theatre and aloofness and idgaf is usually towered by people.

I don't think caring about appearances is AI necessarily.

It’s more the manner in which one cares about appearances. That particular one just rubbed me the wrong way.

Like - did they even think they wanted to vote at post 75, or did they just invent that because they thought I was about to attack them for sheeping?

What would the town concern about voting vs not voting at page 75 even be?

Why would scum be concerned about this - why would Town?

IMO there are a lot more scum reasons to be having any of those thoughts.

Why would either town or scum invent that they'd vote their current target earlier when we are already very early in the game, and there's no reason to fake that as an excuse for voting...?

I think you're scumreading Y&K for the wrong reasons, and this worries me a bit. Why is that specific thing striking you, about Y&K, instead of either A. assuming they are too easy a wagon to be scum or B. assuming they are scum because they haven't been producing useful content, which is the main reason people are voting there in the first place?

Note: unfortunately i was unable to catchup fully before i had to go, but i skimmed all content before posting the above multipost chain. I saved comments on xtoxm and eragon for later. I also need to check espeonage's meta because i'm having a bit of issues with him but i don't know if they are relevant - i think his scumrange is huge anyways.

See you later

I literally explained it in that post.

I could see it coming from scum worried about how they’ll be perceived for sheeping, so they must retcon an over-the-game consistent scumread.

Or, it could be genuine. But I chose to pursue it and see what happened.

A. I don’t know why I would ever assume that and it’s usually a bad tell anyway. B. I do think that. I think the slot is focusing on all the wrong things.

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

Ok, but I did address that. I know I care much more about my appearance as town than as scum. Bc I know I can always cash in on free credit as scum by using theatre and aloofness and idgaf is usually towered by people.

I don't think caring about appearances is AI necessarily.

It’s more the manner in which one cares about appearances. That particular one just rubbed me the wrong way.

Like - did they even think they wanted to vote at post 75, or did they just invent that because they thought I was about to attack them for sheeping?

What would the town concern about voting vs not voting at page 75 even be?

Why would scum be concerned about this - why would Town?

IMO there are a lot more scum reasons to be having any of those thoughts.

Alright let me go over this for you:

I thought about voting at 75 because once the conversation shifted to mechanics Eragon seemed to have less to offer (i.e. 'interesting' and nothing more). I'm not a compulsive voter, I don't vote anyone and everyone and then announce that I don't mean to lynch them, that's it's only for pressure - when I vote someone, it's to lynch them - this may or may not sync up with what Kirari does with our vote later. It doesn't matter to me what you would do there, because you are not me. Does that make sense to you?

-Y

I mean, it does make sense. Why would you announce that you don’t mean to lynch them, though? That’s weird.

Like I said, it could be a playstyle clash, but at this point, I don’t think so. None of your responses have impressed me, especially playing semantics with Eragon.

[Amrun]

Wrt the exchange Eragon vs Y&K, it feels pretty empty. One side is attacking the other based on shallow arguments, the other defends by focusing on poorly examined meta. Eragon comes out being right imo, but that doesn't mean Y&K is scummy for that reason alone. It would be compatible with a scum slot trying to forward a scumread progression for the wrong reasons though.

@Y&K can you produce a readlist?

Agreed. I think one party here is scum, but not both.

[Amrun]

I literally explained it in that post.

I could see it coming from scum worried about how they’ll be perceived for sheeping, so they must retcon an over-the-game consistent scumread.

Or, it could be genuine. But I chose to pursue it and see what happened.

Do you think anyone would invent that as an excuse to make a vote sound better? The explanation was definitely genuine, but that isn't AI to me.

A. I don’t know why I would ever assume that and it’s usually a bad tell anyway.

Do you think scum wouldn't jump on a wagon forming on town? Or, rather: WHEN do you think that scum would jump on a wagon on town? Because at some point, i believe at least one scum is bound to be there - and even if the wagon is against scum i wouldn't discount that, although the timing of scum joining there would probably be different.

Rest of the post i do agree.

Early game like this I think it’s all a crapshoot and that wagon speed is a terrible tell in general.


And clearly, no one but Eragon is understanding what I’m trying to say, which is probably an indication I’m not explaining clearly, but I’m done trying and would like to move on.

[Amrun]

hav u played with scum shireen?

who is better lunch?

-k

Which one tastes better?

[Amrun]

I mean, it does make sense. Why would you announce that you don’t mean to lynch them, though? That’s weird.

Like I said, it could be a playstyle clash, but at this point, I don’t think so. None of your responses have impressed me, especially playing semantics with Eragon.

This is a really lame response, I don't think you're trying to sort, I think you're trying to push our slot for a lynch, and you've been doing tht ever since eragon was getting heat

-Y

So do you think I’m scum with Eragon?

[Amrun]

{Bitmap, Farkran, Norway, Adorable} Me + Time agree on these being town
{Amrun, Brain Skiies} I townread, Time's townread isn't as strong as mine
{Eragon} Time townreads, I have no read
{Shadowlesscloud, Espe, xtoxm} no read, probably town, but no thought was put into getting reads here.
{Shireen} No opinion
{Yume} Scum

Thanks

Why did you place Amrun and Brian high there? What does Time have to say about them? More specifically, i know we have already talked a about them, but i guess it's time to elaborate things better.

Amrun isn't particularly disagreeing with my reads, but is doing so for the wrong reasons. This could be just a playstyle clash, or indicative of something fishy. Do you agree on the reasons why Amrun has been pushing yumeko? Do you think that Yumeko vote on Eragon was scummy? What would you say about post 367 compared to the future Amrun ISO (i.e. 597 mostly)?

About Brian, do you think it was good practice for him to join a xtoxm counterwagon instead of yumeko? Especially as a followup to 532?

Besides the 2nd tier, most other reads match mine. What does Time have to say about Eragon?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


I don’t think the Yumeko vote on Eragon was scummy either!


AhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhghhsuqowolNxbaka

[Amrun]

It was implied in the mod sample role PM that they would, and waifus that cannot be upgrade are an exception, not the norm.

well idk about that
i cant be upgraded (presumably because i AM the/a upgrader)
norwee said he cant
amrun said something about being a trash role that made me think she cant
im expecting the 2 pres nominees to have that as their main ~thing~

so ive mentally ruled out all of those for targeting
that leaves me with 8 candidates, and YK is claiming something that fits

I actually prob could/should upgrade p sure I can

[Amrun]

Totally fine with Brian Skies suspicion. I feel like this game is ez mode.

[Amrun]

Eh.
That’s weak.


I don’t think scum claims that role when/how Xtoxm does.

[Amrun]

Hot take: espe is town

[Amrun]

No, wait for a claim. Please don’t be so antitown.

[Amrun]

No, wait for a claim. Please don’t be so antitown.

look, if im only gonna half participate in this

let me have some fun atleast

No.

[Amrun]

Bad hammer

[Amrun]

I don’t care what yumeko flips. That hammer is awful either way.

[Amrun]

Holy fuck, all the death. And Bitmap’s waifu really was Bernie Sanders wtf lmao.

Mod: Does that mean Eragon can’t post for the entire day phase?

~~~~~

- τ

[Amrun]

YK isn't a bad wagon but it seems the premise for that wagon was their vote on Eragon as the second vote and being scummy while I basically got a free pass for being the third vote seemed pretty bad reasoning overall.

@YK:

Who are you townreading and scumreading atm?

Ok can we all agree Eragon is basically conftown? Thanks.


Xtoxm was counterwagon to scum with a weak/useless role, and is almost certainly town as well.


Adorable isn’t locked in but is likely town as well.

[Amrun]

Y+K scum spews shireen/TSE slot town as well.


I’d like to see if town are going to claim any actions to explain so many kills, so I’ll hold my vote, but I literally think this game is as easy as killing Brian Skies.

[Amrun]

I don't understand why you think Eragon is basically conftown. It's possible that it's just his role.

VOTE: Xotxm

It has absolutely nothing to do with his silencing and everything to do with the interactions with both flipped scum.

[Amrun]

Not re-evaluating a push on a counterwagon to scum with TWO scum flips to analyze is scummy.

VOTE: Brian Skies

[Amrun]

Like are you seriously arguing that the scum double busses their partner on day 1? And had a long, drawn out argument? No. Eragon is town.


So you think the two top wagons at eod 1 were both on scum?

[Amrun]

It has absolutely nothing to do with his silencing and everything to do with the interactions with both flipped scum.

I agree that he's really town based off of play.

I don’t really townread Eragon on his own, but there’s approximately 0% chance scum interact that way with third buddy.

[Amrun]

Brian, are you aligned with town? Do you have active abilities?

[Amrun]

So if we lynch you, we go into double night, but do you die?

[Amrun]

We don't go into double night. We just go into night and start over again tomorrow.

So you don’t die is what you’re saying?


This really doesn’t seem like a town role.

[Amrun]

Farkran, why did you want Brian Skies to full claim?

[Amrun]

Why did you say you might know what happened last night, Brian?

[Amrun]

Slept on it and I don't think I want Eragon right now

This probably ends up being best for poe VOTE: shireen

-K

LET'S ALL WAGON SHIREEN

YEET

-K

WAGON IT AND FIND OUT!!!!!!

-K

So yeah, my expectation is for her to just lurk out if town, play if scum.

i mean she lurked out twice as scum too and she'd absolutely use tech issues to prodge so...

-k

what makes u say that?

-k

this is re: ali saying shireen would play as scum

-k

Your push on Shireen looks bad in timing considering where we’re at. It’s a really easy and boring vote. "Hey let’s lynch the random lurker guys!" (Said the person scumread and voted by 4 different people.)
And how you kinda gave up on Eragon too was bleh.

i read the games he linked

he could be scum but he doesn't favor real time interaction as scum

and I have almost everyone else either as town or yumeko does

so its probably shireen + 2

shireen is not a 'random' lurker, she is the lurker I have flipped as scum more than any other lurker

-k

until I give up on Xtoxm wagon so maybe 1 irl day

x isn't happening vote shireen

-k

Yeah Shireen prodging into replace out has tended to be a scum sign, know it doesn't mean a lot because she sometimes does it as town to but I wanna say she does it as scum more often

-K

I’m seeing TSE in too many lynch pools. Stahp.

[Amrun]

ok since it looks like im obvtown with the flips and was the counter wagon to scum yday i'll not lolcat today
but anyone even suggesting that i could be scum is going to be autovoted by me

i VERY STRONGLY considered using my thing on norwee, since none of you deserved an upgrade with how unbearable you've all made the game
however, i talked myself down and used it on adorable.

Excuse me, why did I not deserve an upgrade?!

It’s because I picked Sakura, isn’t it?

[Amrun]

What is “elite” bodyguard?

[Amrun]

Elite bodyguard dies in place of the person they protect and also kills the player performing that kill.

Oh shit. Then yeah, this is probably what happened, and is goddamn epic and Scummies worthy.

[Amrun]

Norwegian
BOI

This is wondertime’s last post.

Pretty sure norwegianboy is conftown. I mean I TR him anyway.

Not who I expected scum to kill though!! But great news.

[Amrun]

I advise staying off me tonight if anyone was planning.

Maybe for this?


Trying to figure out why scum would target NorwegianboyEE over, say, me. I kinda expected to wake up dead.

Anyway, this makes him seem like a PR but potentially negative utility? Idk mang.

He was TR xtoxm and didn’t have any other notable reads IMO (besides Y+K scumread).

[Amrun]

Xtoxm votes are bad

[Amrun]

Xtoxm votes are bad

Give me a reason other then the hammer

Have you literally read any single ting posted this day phase?

[Amrun]

Typically you won't see more than 3 scum unless you're in a Large, it's multiball (2 teams of 2 scum), or there's an SK.

This game's win condition is explicit in that there is one scumteam (so we don't have to worry about multiball or an SK).

There could be more than 3 scum, but it's unlikely, since townplay on this site is bad enough that when left to their own devices, they play worse than expected EV.

That last part made me laugh actually when the first game i had here had a town quick hammer another town within 15 mins of the day starting

You really don’t have much room to talk. You haven’t read anything, you’re asking stupid questions, and making very poor votes.

You supposedly have a confirmable town role which led you to try less. Ergo, if you’re town, or really as either alignment, you’re playing poorly.

If you want to see better play, play better.

[Amrun]

Interesting turn of events.

If wondertime was the NK, I put more credence into Shireen/TSE scum than I did previously. Wondertime was convinced Y+K was TMI bussing the shireen slot.

I’m going to PM the mod and see if they’ll confirm no 3p. That’s really odd, considering I was heavily weighing Brian as a 3p. I’ve never seen a mod confirm such a thing, yet it’s a stupid thing to lie about so it’s probably not a lie.

[Amrun]

No, I think wondertime is a perfectly believable NK.

[Amrun]

And i specifically told people to not visit me tonight.

Yeah but why would scum listen to that

Welcome, Bitmap, You are

Bernie Sanders.

You are aligned with the

Bad waifus.

Your starting tier is Tier S. This is the highest tier, and thus you cannot be upgraded any further.

You promise more adequate health care services to the entire student body without a raise in their tuition fee.

Once per game during the night, you may activate medicare for all, and no mafia members will die this night, no matter what happens.

This makes me think multiple killing town roles is probably not impossible.

I agree.

[Amrun]

The mod confirmed there aren’t 3p that town or mafia can’t win with.

[Amrun]

I still think TSE is town. My confidence has gone down but I don’t think it’s anything close to a guilty.

I think they can’t live until LyLo and I don’t MIND lynching there today for WIFOM’s sake, but my confidence that flips scum is not there.

[Amrun]

I don’t really doubt any of the claims except potentially TSE’s, I just don’t really think it says a whole lot about alignment. Except xtoxm - scum don’t need 2 upgraders.

[Amrun]

I find it really, really unrealistic to see both TSE and Brian telling the truth, which means xtoxm and shadowless probably are

I also don't understand these dichotomies here. What does Shadow's role have to do with Xtotm's?

Non-existence of 3p has been confirmed, so i don't think more than one person is lying. Therefore other people are probably sincere.

pedit: amrun, do you think scum have a resurrector among their ranks?

Well, probably not. Fair point.

[Amrun]

I do admit I targeted xtoxm hoping to be upgraded and was not (obviously). But I still think he’s more likely to be town.

[Amrun]

@Farkran: Bitmap’s ability worked differently, so no, I don’t think so. There wouldn’t have been the “you have to target me” element. And frankly it makes sense based on what my action returned (which isn’t much since I chose a shit waifu). It’s not a good lynch.

[Amrun]

I'm a 1-Shot Deathproof.

If I survive a kill, I become S-Tier. If I get lynched, day just ends.

Please get me out of this game.

So if we lynched you twice, you’d die?

[Amrun]

They could have been healed, though. It’s plausible with flipped roles already. Hmm.

[Amrun]

I think that’s a weird fakeclaim.

Was your stop-target thing gated, TSE?

[Amrun]

Gated is like, limited. Like 1 shot vig, that’s gated.

[Amrun]

That’s odd.
I’ll have to ask the mod why something didn’t go through.
Maybe they forgot my night action.

I was either redirected, roleblocked or Farkran is Immune to attacks.

So... at the time of these posts, you were assuming you have been visited

twice

, and you have been thinking that thoroughly because you asked a mod before even assuming any other possibility

+ dumb heroshooting
+ counterclaimed by confirmed vig
+ unconfirmable forever because 1shot

Eh... i mean, this would rank high in the olympus of dumb scum claims, but then again in the last anime upick we lynched Salamence d2 for claiming Stunned when he didn't know about Stun mechanics.

This is a good point though. These don’t seem consistent.

[Amrun]

Gated could also be: novice, weak, etc

[Amrun]

I think that’s a weird fakeclaim.

Was your stop-target thing gated, TSE?

WDYM by “gated”?

Is it limited in some way? Or this happens every night until night 99?

[Amrun]

Ok so, tonight, it stops a roleblock, and tomorrow, it stops a doctor protect?

[Amrun]

What determines which one fails and which one succeeds?

[Amrun]

I did not target TSE.

[Amrun]

Game is stalling.

VOTE: TSE

[Amrun]

Oops, bad take.


If game is over here I’m going to literally roll around laughing and figure out how to nominate this for some kind of Scummy.

[Amrun]

That was a hilarious game. GG.

[Amrun]

That was a hilarious game. GG.

Sorry Amrun, you were my second biggest target after killing the only tp

Yeah I mean, was expected after my campaign against y+k. No worries.

[Amrun]

Totally meme game lol

If i had to give a setup advice, this is a bit too much madness. I feel roles can be given accordingly to upick but with way less impact

Thanks farkran - for what it’s worth this game and the waifu game offsite shadow keeps referencing more or less have the purpose of trying to find new mechanics that can be reasonably put into future games, so it ended up with too much madness as you said, and I could see it hurting the games playability past night 1. If I were to host more games, the craziness will be reeled in a little bit and not be designed when i’m tipsy.

There have been versions of the setup where the two student council presidents could turn into 3p together or mafia traitors together; Hilda had fire emblem stats and equipment system although I couldnt quite figure out how that would work. Imagine being Tatsuya and being told hey lets give a wolf member the entire setup - kudos to him that he didnt just tell me you’re fucking nuts. That mechanic turned out okay although idk if i will run into trouble if we actually had to modkill shadow for tmi.

Sorry to xtoxm and amrun, we had no clue what to make based on the flavour so the roles felt flat probably.

It was a good role it just didn’t fit the character. No worries! Had fun.

[Amrun]

Also all of your waifus suck. BerNII-SANders is clearly the best waifu.

This game was worth it for me for your flip. I showed my husband because I was laughing so hard. I did not think you were serious when you said that in game.