Arrrgh... chenhsi...
Let's lynch chenhsi anyway. We don't need a cop to win this game.
(Just joking about lynching him, I hasten to add. Though the frustration is real.
)
@ chenhsi... being a cop does not give you license to contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion safe in the knowledge that if you come under pressure you can claim and avoid being lynched. You could at least have taken advantage of the questions I threw your way instead of pretty much inviting us to wagon you and force you to claim.
unvote
(though it would be so sweet to see a cop counterclaim right now...)
So... okay, there is a deadline fast approaching and I'm not keen to see day 1 end without a lynch.I stand by my suspicions of Dark wingstalker, but after a re-read, I am also highly suspicious of Litral.
Reading Litral's posts, the following things stood out to me:
36. Voted Tom, no reason given
38. After Stranger Coug voted him (post 37), gave a reason for his vote:
Litral wrote:Because Tom suggested that we kill Godot, and yet he did not put on a vote himself, or give reasons.
If Litral thinks not giving a reason for a vote is suspicious, why didn't he give a reason for his vote? Seems more likely he thought of this as a justification for his vote after the fact.
121. votes Wumbo (back up to L-2) because:
Litral wrote:anyone vanilla townie who has claimed is completely useless to the town, and should be lynched, unless there is a far better candidate.
Aside from whether this is a good argument, I think it's pretty interesting that he made absolutely no comment on the Dark wingstalker L-1 vote shenanigans, which was breaking news at the time he posted. Instead he tried to keep the Wumbo wagon alive with his vote.
137. Here Litral unvotes Wumbo and votes chenhsi, saying:
Litral wrote:I get town vibes out of Wumbo's final defenses after careful reading, which is why I don't feel like lynching him any more.
Yet Litral was happy to vote Wumbo in post 121, and Wumbo hadn't posted since then. It seems more likely to me that Litral realised the Wumbo wagon had run out of steam, so he claimed to have changed your views after a careful reread of his posts. (And if he
is
telling the truth, then shouldn't he have read Wumbo's posts carefully
before
voting him to L-2?)
183. Litral drops in to say:
Litral wrote:Although I'm attentive, I'm not going to bother with this discussion.
I find this pretty interesting because it heightens my suspicion that
both
Dark wingstalker
and
Litral may be scum together. In post 121 Litral ignored the attacks on DWS's vote, in post 137 he only questioned him slightly ("Why the tunnel vision?"), and now he stays clear of the fray completely. I think this makes a lot of sense if DWS is Litral's scum buddy and Litral wants to avoid facing the dilemma of either obviously defending DWS (which could put him under suspicion if DWS is outed as scum later), or adding to the attack him (which at that point could have led to a DWS lynch).
203. Defends DWS's mistakes as unintentional:
Litral wrote:while DWS did seem to misinterpret and misspeak at times, those misinterpretations are not meant to be malicious or anti-town, and to me, not intentional.
206, 209, 212, 216. Defends his argument that lynching lurkers is a good strategy. Worth noting though, in 216 Litral says:
Litral wrote:You're saying my strategy is to lynch every lurker. First of all, it's pretty sad if there are enough lurkers to lynch all the way to endgame, and second of all, I'm saying that we should lynch (or at least vote) chenhsi, who while suspicious (suggesting that there is nothing at all to talk about and nothing questionable at all), has the added benefit for lynching of being a lurker.
But he used the same argument to push for a lynch on Wumbo, so it does seem that the lurkiness is the reason for Litral targeting them, not an 'added benefit'.
246. Not sure why but this post also seems slightly off, maybe because of its WIFOMish flavour:
Litral wrote:Cass wrote:On the other hand: if you're going to claim, claim doc. Then the scum can kill you if we don't.
Not any more they will.
Given the specific points I've mentioned, as well as the general 'feel' of his posts/play so far, I feel justified in voting Litral:
vote Litral
Aside from Litral, I'm also fine with a Dark wingstalker lynch if there's more chance of us agreeing on it by deadline, and I'm open to being persuaded if anyone else wants to make a case against someone else. (Cass, at the moment I'm not convinced that Wumbo is a good lynch, mainly because if I'm right about Litral and Dark wingstalker being scum, it follows that Wumbo is pretty likely to be town.)