I think with revealing and using pocorn we can start to ask people why they chose the people they did. Should it look suspcious. Why were some more eager then others to claim isn't something that is wrong either. Being eager to tell your lover could be because your scum who already had everything planned out for this phase.Zoolander wrote:I like how you are quick to point the finger. The only reason that I didn't reveal in the popcorn was because it wasn't suggested until after I posted (so I started it after armlx suggested it).
Though I would be very interested to hear what armlx says we can learn from it, as I don't really know what I'm looking for in any info that the order reveals.
Mixed with thisfarside22 wrote:Why Jebus were you eager to claim and not do popcorn. Did you not see the bennifit of waiting to see who picked who and then ask why they picked that person?
make me comfortable with my Jebus vote for nowJebus wrote:Vote: Kloud
I don't really get how the random voting is supposed to work when everyone does it, but what the heck
So why did you pick Goat to go next for claim?armlx wrote:Yeah, farside pretty much answered it. Asking why someone chose that person is the real issue at hand here, especially with the ability for each person to pick either Lover A1, A2, B1, B2, etc.
, but I think it would be best for me to look over the partner claim a little better just in case I missed something of value.
I don't see what your getting at. If we mislynch then we go to another day with two pairs dead with another pair being nightkilled in night 1 then we find ours in lylo and we either lynch scum or mislynch once again and lose the game.Jebus wrote:Here's another thought: Random vote? Minus my pair, or yours as you may see it, there are 10 people. You have a 2/5 chance of hitting. After one lynch, that goes to a 3/5 chance. Odds are, we hit and win, or get caught in a stalemate doing so.
Thoughts?
He hadn't responded to the mass claim issue, and I wanted to force him to. I felt the reaction I got from him would be more indicative (if there was a significant one) then that from a less experienced player, who could oppose the claim on a non-scummy, more so ignorant basis.So why did you pick Goat to go next for claim?
Oops checked Xtoxm's post and saw it was nightless. My mistake scratch that from my post.Zoolander wrote:i think there is no night in this setup, so there will be no nightkilling.
I would like to readdress the fact that Zoolander claimed his partner before the popcorn idea was suggested, so I don't think that this would could as a strike against him. I do, however, find that Jebus' response to the popcorn idea stands out.Jahudo wrote:Interesting that both Jebus and Zoolander chose to reveal their partners early while the rest stuck with the popcorn and pass on to the next person. So since two of these sets were scum that had to decide how they wanted to partner up, was there anything to learn from how the reveals happened? I'm not sure there is, actually.
I can't put my finger on why I find this to be suspicious. Maybe it is because Jebus flat out refused to follow the popcorn claim pattern, or maybe it was simply the context of the post. I feel that Jebus was attempting to rush us through the partner claiming stage, and I find that to be suspicious considering the information the town can acquire from this. There is no need to speed through, as we aren't close to deadline (at least I don't think we are), and less information given to the town is only going to help scum in this case. When asked about it:Jebus wrote:No need to popcorn it, just claim. Takes less time
Me + 3fj (he's god btw)
Jebus responds with this:farside22 wrote:Why Jebus were you eager to claim and not do popcorn. Did you not see the bennifit of waiting to see who picked who and then ask why they picked that person?
Which to me seems like blatant evasion/avoidance of farside's question by means of changing the topic. This doesn't sit well with me. I am not sure the random vote is such a good plan either, for if we mislynch on the random vote, we are already in a lylo situation (I think), so the numbers you, Jebus, post above would be incorrect. I am not exactly sure why you are suggesting random lynch on page three either.Jebus wrote:Here's another thought: Random vote? Minus my pair, or yours as you may see it, there are 10 people. You have a 2/5 chance of hitting. After one lynch, that goes to a 3/5 chance. Odds are, we hit and win, or get caught in a stalemate doing so.
Thoughts?
Possibly we can look back and see if the suspicious person was trying to interact or avoid interaction with their other scum group through random voting or the claim order. It’s WIFOM now to think that the scum would/wouldn’t logically random vote the other scum pair or precede/follow them in the claim order, though.armix wrote:Asking why someone chose that person is the real issue at hand here, especially with the ability for each person to pick either Lover A1, A2, B1, B2, etc.
What we also need is some scumhuntingarmlx wrote:This is where we need adel. One of those diagram thingies would be great here.
I just dont see what an overanalysis of the first three pages of votes will accomplish at this point that simple scumhunting cant, I dont think many if any have even cast something more then a random. Ususally voting history doesnt even come into play as concrete evidence untill late in the game.armlx wrote:This is true, and the diagram is one method of doing so (that I usually don't care enough about to use).What we also need is some scumhunting
You seem to underestimate the non-randomness of random voting, especially in this set up.I just dont see what an overanalysis of the first three pages of votes will accomplish at this point that simple scumhunting cant, I dont think many if any have even cast something more then a random. Ususally voting history doesnt even come into play as concrete evidence untill late in the game.
Day 1, you have a 1/3 shot of hitting scum by randomly lynching.Jebus wrote:Here's another thought: Random vote? Minus my pair, or yours as you may see it, there are 10 people. You have a 2/5 chance of hitting. After one lynch, that goes to a 3/5 chance. Odds are, we hit and win, or get caught in a stalemate doing so.
Thoughts?
It's actually 2/5 day 1, since you can take out your own group, since you know yourself and partner.Goatrevolt wrote: Day 1, you have a 1/3 shot of hitting scum by randomly lynching.
Day 2, you have a 2/5 shot of hitting scum by randomly lynching.
