Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[staypositivefriend]

uh fine, really quick though as i really have to sleep

town : cheet / SPF / MWB / gamma?

scum : MariaR / Cakez / Pooky??? (need to read)

Noraa : Noraa

also have a read on murder that i'm not willing to disclose until future events

pedit : ty noraa, very cool

kk thanks, i'd like to hear u expand on some of these reads when u have the time

say right now who you want me to develop for when i got time

the scumread on pooky and the tr on gamma

[Gypyx]

ok uh imma be real i don't recall why gamma is there

i'll try to trace back my thoughtprocess but no guarantees

[Something_Smart]

^this is towny I think.

at the very least it's a whole-ass mood.

[staypositivefriend]

^this is towny I think.

at the very least it's a whole-ass mood.

it's a little towny, yeah. i like the transparency

[staypositivefriend]

MURDERSUNNY - null leaning town
Gypyx - null leaning town
noraa - townlean
Zaiden - town
Pink Ball - townlean
Jingle - null
Something_Smart - null
Spring Breeze - scumlean
MariaR - null
PookyTheMagicalBear - townlean
SirCakez - null leaning town
Morning Tweet - townlean
PrivateI - scumlean
Jake The Wolfie scumlean
Gamma Emerald - null
midwaybear - townlean
Cheetory6 - town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pink ball how much has flavor leaf talked to you about this game?

[Spring Breeze]

sorry guys, i'll read up tomorrow!

[Pink Ball]

pink ball how much has flavor leaf talked to you about this game?

Nothing, he's not reading my teammates' games. Auro and xtoxm are the MVP's who are giving feedback in every game, and FL and me are the lazy ass fuckers who don't deserve them

[MURDERSUNNY]

ye pretty much Jingle
Also - I'm not gonna bash through Murder's case because I don't think it's inaccurate. just a misreading of what I'm doing here.

You should, or I'll continue to believe it and push you

[midwaybear]

UNVOTE: lol
Talked with team about this a bit. Given my other reads, I wouldn’t be too opposed to voting Spring Breeze. I’m not going to yet.

[MURDERSUNNY]

i don't understand this. is this a serious play at SRing Spring/kanna because they criticized you

It's TMI, not based on Infinity's read of me, and bad fence sitty.

[MURDERSUNNY]

I forgot if I said this earlier but I think this post was pretty scummy. He's taking advantage of Noraa here. He also is not presenting any original scumhunting or content of his own (and hasn't for a while).

Stuff like this is just shadeeee
This isn't scummy it's basically a joke

[MURDERSUNNY]

conclusion: cakez's reads, generally speaking, have a level of internal consistency and clear progression. the real issue is that cakez oftentimes does not explain or expand on his progressions, so it's difficult to evaluate whether or not his stances are coming from a place of good faith

i don't feel that i could comfortably townread cakez based on this analysis, but i would place him in the null-leaning town pile. it seems like most of the points against him are meta based, and unless anyone can provide why his game today is scummy ~outside~ of his meta, i'm not going to be interested in wagoning him today

Please address my more recent post, where I show that none of his scum reads have any substance behind them

[MURDERSUNNY]

RE PB case, I'm very interested in the potential of a cake/maria/SB team and will be looking into that

[MURDERSUNNY]

I think Midway and I saw the same thing in your opening three posts

was this to me? i can't engage with you if you're gonna be like that and i'd like to cause

i feel like there's no substantial reason to scumread me right now

Beep beep beep

[MURDERSUNNY]

- sircakez has in general been pretty unafraid to give his opinions, and tonally reads as blunt town. maybe it's a soulread, i just think he's town

Spooky

[MURDERSUNNY]

Maria, what do you think are the odds of cake scum here?

Besides the fact Jingle W means Cakez=T Cakez is still in his town game range on my notepad. He hasn't done one of his obvious tells yet. If that changes you'll know.

Still hate this

[MURDERSUNNY]

What's the logic, and is it invertible?

I think Cakez is V regardless of your Align but it becomes self-evident on a W you flip. Is there a world where you're town? Sure, I'm waiting for a certain line of play. I don't mind going back to Zaiden or even putting my next wolf read on the table. But with the game state as it is atm I'm content just sitting here.

Here too

[SirCakez]

@Murder where are you drawing the line between shade and scumreading? Because to me it feels like you are characterizing everything I say as shade when that's not true.
I don't see how you can call a post where I directly call Pooky scummy to be shade. That's not shade, that's scumhunting.

[SirCakez]

I forgot if I said this earlier but I think this post was pretty scummy. He's taking advantage of Noraa here. He also is not presenting any original scumhunting or content of his own (and hasn't for a while).

Stuff like this is just shadeeee
This isn't scummy it's basically a joke

This post

[MURDERSUNNY]

Spoiler: about maria

I think maria's gut is probably more accurate/reliable than my headspace right now and I'd ideally like to coordinate with people I think are town.

is there an explanation for maria!town?

Weird shade out of nowhere

Creature thinks Gamma, Gyp and Maria are suspiciously

Rule of 3

CONDENSED THOUGHTS

*snip*

i'm also kind of concerned with how people blindly lock maria as town, it's almost as if people are scared to do anything else

I personally feel like Zaiden will become a more obvious wolf as the game goes on as you can see where Jingle will be the other way around so I would personally take a shot at them. However, if people aren't overly keen I will take the easy one.

^^i like this thought from maria

if maria is playing from a scum mindset, then it means that she successfully created a significant amount of momentum against zaiden and ensured that he would become the focal point of discussion today, only to deliberately switch her push onto a much more intimidating player and risk drawing a lot of heat on herself.

maria was already a universal TR when she made this post, so it's difficult to see the scum intent behind deliberately switching off of the wagon and the momentum that she singlehandedly created. the most simple answer is that her progression is coming from a town mindset

it's just maria saying i could do X or i could do Y. it does mean maria is probably town though

I don't get the weird shade here only to end with Maria=town

Yeah good call on Maria SB
Creature raised some good points against her in our PT
Cheet's desire to sheep her is suspicious

Shade but then directing focus elsewhere

I think it's weird that Maria has been townread by many for seemingly little reason yes

Cake avoids ever actually pushing Maria

y'all get to see something rare. a sircakez readslist!

town - pink ball, morning tweet, spf
nulltown - spring breeze, jake, midwaybear
null - murdersunny, spring breeze, gamma
???/halp me/ever so slightly edging on scum - noraa, cheet, zaiden
nullscum - pooky, jingle
scum - something_smart, maria, gypyx

oops I put spring breeze in two places
I think I will call them nulltown for now

I missed this before, if I'm right then this is just lol

y'all get to see something rare. a sircakez readslist!

town - pink ball, morning tweet, spf
nulltown - spring breeze, jake, midwaybear
null - murdersunny, spring breeze, gamma
???/halp me/ever so slightly edging on scum - noraa, cheet, zaiden
nullscum - pooky, jingle
scum - something_smart, maria, gypyx

Oh yeah and Maria!
I feel like my posts are not being read

Forgot he was distancing from Maria

I am caught up.

VOTE: Gypyx

This is my strongest scumread for reasons you can see scattered through my catchup. I also strongly SR Something_Smart, Jingle and Maria.
I am a little less sure about Pooky so I will call him nullscum.

Again never questioning or pushing Maria

[SirCakez]

I haven't posted anything about Maria because she has not posted anything significant since I last posted.

[MURDERSUNNY]

@Murder where are you drawing the line between shade and scumreading? Because to me it feels like you are characterizing everything I say as shade when that's not true.
I don't see how you can call a post where I directly call Pooky scummy to be shade. That's not shade, that's scumhunting.

Scum hunting involves actually questioning people, questioning yourself, and getting people to agree with you when you think you are right, calling stuff scummy with no follow up is just shade.

[SirCakez]

You seem to think I should be pushing like five different people at once.
That's just reality. I'm working on Gyp and SS right now.

[SirCakez]

@Murder where are you drawing the line between shade and scumreading? Because to me it feels like you are characterizing everything I say as shade when that's not true.
I don't see how you can call a post where I directly call Pooky scummy to be shade. That's not shade, that's scumhunting.

Scum hunting involves actually questioning people, questioning yourself, and getting people to agree with you when you think you are right, calling stuff scummy with no follow up is just shade.

How did I not follow that up though? Pooky is in my SRs and I'm waiting on them to come back to the thread so I can do more.