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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:17 am

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AGar's pile of yeet is
Maria or GE/Jake/
[Redacted]


I'm also liking Gamma less today.
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Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:18 am

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felt like the reads part was pretty marginal at the bottom

but the spoiler is considered as reads to me? and like yeah i have trouble focusing through reading a whole wall

really need to step away from MS ~1 hour or so lol
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:18 am

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MWB is town through a combination of early day reaction to MC's crumbs and having absolutely no shits given about optics. It's pretty obvious from his posting that he doesn't care how he comes across, which just bleeds town to me.
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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:19 am

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In post 3189, Gypyx wrote:
In post 3184, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3171, Gypyx wrote:clidd basically dropped a buch of meta on you then repped out, and according to iv he has a meta of being a very good townplayer, but disliking very much being scum

so like, idk, i feel like if he was town, even if life had him busy, he would at least try to solve?
I was actually a bit concerned about this because clidd is playing in a game right now.
I think saying Morning has not been solving is somewhat of a stretch.
hmmm maybe it's a stretch yes, but i still think it's under the level at which a green boi would do it
would you say the main point of your scumread on me stems from not doing enough? I guess i havent been terribly helpful, i hate playing mafia when i dont have the time to read all the posts and i start having to make educated guesses about some things rather than actually having been there

Like for example this SB wagon stuff, i was under the impression there was no competition whatsoever and no credit to be gained for joining it, and yet half the thread feels there is a significance to the votes and I do not know if i should oppose that or not
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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 3243, SirCakez wrote:It feels like a handwave. I don't think anyone can legitimately argue the original post doesn't look bad in light of SB's flip.
Yeah, I will admit that I understand why one may scumread that post I made. I was just arguing with you over it because I know I'm town and that you are wrong, but it probably wouldn't be helpful.
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 3250, Cheetory6 wrote:AGar's pile of yeet is
Maria or GE/Jake/
[Redacted]


I'm also liking Gamma less today.
Maria is a rough read because I think most of her play has been colored by a legitimate inability to be in the thread for health reasons. Definitely like the pool though.
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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:22 am

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I think you can try to parse the individual votes but the overall trend of votes is kind of difficult to parse.
I would personally lean towards there being more mafia offwagon, but that's just kind of matching my readstate atm lol.

p-edit: I would agree, Maria feels like she's going to be a hard sort in general this game.
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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:22 am

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In post 3251, Gypyx wrote:felt like the reads part was pretty marginal at the bottom

but the spoiler is considered as reads to me? and like yeah i have trouble focusing through reading a whole wall

really need to step away from MS ~1 hour or so lol
Well i listed the reads but you're right i didnt summarize them with the process i used to get there at the bottom, i guess it is my bad then. I myself have trouble reading walls and yet sometimes I run into the word limit myself

in any case i dont think you're being unfair, I agree that the wagon itself is not somewhere i think should be analyzed hard, but that span of the game was still useful to me
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:22 am

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In post 3239, Pink Ball wrote:Votes on Gypyx make me sad. Even sadder because it's town pushing the wagon
Eh. Gypyx isn't a townread by any means, but he's not the scummiest fish in the barrel, nor do I think he should be the elim today.
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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:27 am

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In post 3245, Jingle wrote:She's been fairly consistently doing that throughout her ISO, in fact. Sure, MT doesn't really make huge waves, but nothing she's done gives me any thoughts that she's trying to push the game in a proscum direction either. She's just been sitting there, solidly putting in the work and coming to decent conclusions while not really having much attention paid to her in comparison to the big flashy fights and cases. Unlike the lurker crew, though, she IS actively working to advance the gamestate.
i feel really appreciated by this idk if that was your intention but it feels really nice, i appreciate it
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:30 am

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In post 3256, Cheetory6 wrote:I would personally lean towards there being more mafia offwagon, but that's just kind of matching my readstate atm lol.
Agreed. I think it's possible scum thought the wagon might be swingable prior to my vote, even. My highest priority sort right now is actually Cakez because of it, because he's the most likely option for a counterwagon yesterday, and him being town/scum says a lot about the gamestate. If cakezscum I think it hardspews enough town to put us in functional autowin.

As such, if anyone has any Cakez cases, in either direction, I'd be happy to hear them out.
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:34 am

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In post 3259, Morning Tweet wrote:i feel really appreciated by this idk if that was your intention but it feels really nice, i appreciate it
FWIW, I put you on a very similar shelf to Gamma. As town, both of you are capable of being incredibly insightful with really solid reads, but you tend to fade into the background because you're less aggressive than others. I've had this opinion of you since you caught out my whole scumteam in the GIdea game where I was an alien with Titus pretty much immediately.

Take that with the grain of salt that I could be playing to an agenda right now, but when I am revealed to be town you'll know it's a genuine sentiment. :D
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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:37 am

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Hey, Cheet:

Does Agar have insight into PI/Cakez?

I'd be interested in knowing why they weren't in your list, and I doubt either would be the REDACTED since they're both kinda lukewarm scumreads.
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Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:49 am

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He had Cakez as town and PI as the nullest possible read he could have.

For the former he liked his earlygame besides some small vote-related things, thought was maybe a slight towntell and that felt like the kind of defusing that's more likely to come from town than mafia.

For the latter he didn't like Monty not addressing the shade I threw at him, but also didn't get what everyone else saw in that one post where he was like "ah cheet good but maybe cheet bad D:".
Also thought was townish but that Monty was engaging a very selective portion of the game and that it seems par for the course for him to be disconnected rn.

I can also ask for a more direct summary on his reads there if you'd like, just going off his notes here.
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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:50 am

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In post 3250, Cheetory6 wrote:AGar's pile of yeet is
Maria or GE/Jake/[Redacted]

I'm also liking Gamma less today.
Why did you need to redact a name there? And if you didn't need to, why did you do it anyway?
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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:52 am

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I don't want to deal with talking about AGar's read there but it also felt funny to redact it while also being true to the amount of effort AGar's spent reading up on this game.
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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 3040, Gypyx wrote:never seen arguments of that kind coming from town
Maria uses that kind of logic on the daily, as both alignments.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:54 am

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Eh. If he has sweeping insights he wants to share I'd be happy to hear them, but that satisfies me for now.

I think I feel

VOTE: Gamma

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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:56 am

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imagine that I'm pouting right now.

VOTE: gamma
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:57 am

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In post 3069, SirCakez wrote:I got a rock
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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:03 am

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In post 3250, Cheetory6 wrote:AGar's pile of yeet is
Maria or GE/Jake/
[Redacted]


I'm also liking Gamma less today.
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:03 am

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In post 3252, Jingle wrote:MWB is town through a combination of early day reaction to MC's crumbs and having absolutely no shits given about optics. It's pretty obvious from his posting that he doesn't care how he comes across, which just bleeds town to me.
He is always like this it's NAI
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:04 am

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That's a good vote. Not great, but good
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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:05 am

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I feel like town is in control of this game
Like in Xeno 2 after I got merced day 1
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:07 am

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Eh, we'll see what shakes loose.
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