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clidd Jack of All Trades
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Official Vote Count
Maduisha(4): samantha97, clidd, Umlaut, Cabd
samantha97(2): maxwell, Maduisha
Not Voting(1): TheFuzzylogic99
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2021-02-06 11:08:00)余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
所以など行方知らず未知の病巣に臥す患者達
発熱が死因 然れば早期に躊躇すべきだったと知る放火犯-
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Sirius9121 Mafia Scum
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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So... there's no way both Fuzzy and Maxwell are town, right?
I think we just eliminate them both and autowin.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Funny thing is we agreed in the neighborhood last night that scum was probably Cabd“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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samantha97 Mafia Scum
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just w8ing on fuzzy's result
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there is a way: you could be mafiaIn post 955, Umlaut wrote:So... there's no way both Fuzzy and Maxwell are town, right?
I think we just eliminate them both and autowin.
only way it'd be mechanically impossible for mafia to win would be if cabd lived-
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Well, sorry for the total fail on my part this game. Big time crap reads on my part
FWIW, not that it matters, I was bluffing with my role - it's actually a simple doctor, I can only protect VTs, so even hypothetically, I couldn't have protected Cabd, although I suppose making a ton of noise about how I scumread him didn't help.
I'm presuming fuzzy clears samantha here. I think it's probably him but really I can't wrap my head around what the mafia were doing yesterday.-
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Looking at maduisha's ISO, she townbins Umlaut relatively early for not much reason and interacts with him a few times, mentions him as a suspect yesterday, but always a secondary one. I guess it's not impossible for them to be teammates but I struggle to understand why umlaut buses yesterday.
I'm left completely puzzled as to what scum were doing yesterday. I think maduisha busing fuzzy makes more sense than Umlaut going through with a hard bus on Maduisha but neither makes a ton of sense to me, really.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Ffs does anyone just give their role straight anymore
Inb4 Fuzzy is actually a 3-shot Loyal Complex Follower or something“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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If you mean why did I vote them, I was originally of the opinion that Sam was a better elimination out of the two but I didn't really have a strong read on either one of them. I was always willing to vote Maduisha if it came down to it. The reason I made the vote when I did was because I saw a push to change wagons between those two for like the zillionth time for trivial reasons and I didn't like it.In post 961, maxwell wrote:Umlaut: Why'd you reverse your stance on Maduisha, exactly?“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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TheFuzzylogic99 Mafia Scum
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Sorry Umlaut but you are wrong I am not a follower. I am a two-shot Non-Consectaive VT Cop
Max /Me killing Cabd makes sense as we were both targets of Cabd last night.
Sam killing Cabd to frame me and Max is another possibility. She knew that we were both targets for a Cbad investigation, Given that Max refused to protect her last night gives her an opportunity.
Giving that Umalut and Clidd are obvtown it is obvious, it has to be either Max, Sam or me. I am kinda leaning Max as Night 1 he protected Clidd instead of the claim cop and night two he refused to protect the Cop and then the cop get killed. I have to reread but Max seems like he was the one targeted by Cabd last night so he could of killed her out of desperation.
comes up dead the next day . He also claimed doctor after I outed him as a PR, He did not have to claim but he did. Feels like he was making a plausible denial for my result.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Well, actually you said non-consectaive but whatever.
So literally I'm the only person who just put all my cards on the table as far as my role, except I guess the VTs“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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You didn't really have a strong read on either of them?In post 963, Umlaut wrote:
If you mean why did I vote them, I was originally of the opinion that Sam was a better elimination out of the two but I didn't really have a strong read on either one of them. I was always willing to vote Maduisha if it came down to it. The reason I made the vote when I did was because I saw a push to change wagons between those two for like the zillionth time for trivial reasons and I didn't like it.In post 961, maxwell wrote:Umlaut: Why'd you reverse your stance on Maduisha, exactly?
In post 153, Umlaut wrote:Town pings on Maduisha.In post 209, Umlaut wrote:Maduisha and Nepenthe are probably townIn post 435, Umlaut wrote:[*]Not really interested in MaduishaIn post 672, Umlaut wrote:[*]Also pretty confident Maduisha and Maxwell are townIn post 755, Umlaut wrote:I'm having trouble thinking about this game today.
VOTE: Sam
Can we just do this today and hold off on the PRs? If we assume exactly one of {Cabd, Fuzzy, maxwell} is scum and one of {me, clidd, Maduisha, samantha} is scum (and I do assume that), then honestly I'm much more confident about who is the scum in the latter group.
Prior to that last post, every mention you made of her was calling her town, never with actual reason. How are you saying you didn't have a strong read? In particular, in 755 you say you'reIn post 842, Umlaut wrote:UNVOTE: Sam
Willing to vote Maduisha at this point but I'd like to get the answer to that question.muchmore confident about who is scum in Maduisha/samantha - where did that confidence come from, and why did it change?-
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maxwell Mafia Scum
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Strictly speaking, simple doctor is a terrible role that's damn near useless, and the the only utility I actually had was to bluff with my claim and hope I drew the NK over a role that can actually do something. Fully claiming yesterday would have been self-neutering. We might have avoided a lot of the bad setup spec arguments if we'd known everyone was claiming a stronger version of their role though.-
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are you a 'vt cop' or 'neapolitan'In post 964, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Sorry Umlaut but you are wrong I am not a follower. I am a two-shot Non-Consectaive VT Cop-
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@maxwell: You've got me there, I guess I did think Maduisha was town earlier in the game though I can't recall what the reasons were besides just tone.
I do kind of recall waffling mentally over the wording that I was "pretty confident" you and Maduisha were town, and ultimately deciding that straightforward messaging was more important than capturing my exact mental state. And as far as 755 it was kind of the same thing, I thought it was better to just stick with one target than say something like "in this first group any of the three could be scum but in the latter I think clidd has to be town so only two out of the four could be scum so my subjective odds of voting scum are better" which is more accurate but less likely to get anyone to actually vote.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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